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Collokey
Profile Joined January 2015
United States23 Posts
August 16 2015 20:38 GMT
#2361
I really dislike TL's p/b's so far this series.
Lil Bunny Lulu
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
August 16 2015 20:39 GMT
#2362
On August 17 2015 05:37 GolemMadness wrote:
Piglet and Xpecial have just been shitting on Wildturtle and Lustboy in lane these two games. Now just gotta stop doing stupid shit later.


This isn't soloq cs difference in these games comes down to how the teams play the laneswaps. At least in top and bot.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 16 2015 20:39 GMT
#2363
On August 17 2015 05:38 Collokey wrote:
I really dislike TL's p/b's so far this series.

It's fine IMO.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 16 2015 20:40 GMT
#2364
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#2365
On August 17 2015 05:39 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:38 Collokey wrote:
I really dislike TL's p/b's so far this series.

It's fine IMO.


The Elise is bad. Even if they win this game they would have won by more with basically anything meta the way IWD is playing it.
Freeeeeeedom
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
August 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#2366
On August 17 2015 05:40 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.


Viktor wins more against Azir than vice versa in both competitive and soloq, so you'd better have some actual depth to what you're saying than generic power curve horseshit.
XDG Mata
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
August 16 2015 20:41 GMT
#2367
when two teams that don't like to make plays early meet, games are just zzzzz
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2368
After watching TI5 i cannot enjoy such a gameplay anymore, god damn it zzZZZzzZZzzZzz
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2369
On August 17 2015 05:39 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:37 GolemMadness wrote:
Piglet and Xpecial have just been shitting on Wildturtle and Lustboy in lane these two games. Now just gotta stop doing stupid shit later.


This isn't soloq cs difference in these games comes down to how the teams play the laneswaps. At least in top and bot.


30 CS at 10 minutes when they've mostly been 2v2 does not come down to how they played the lane swap.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2370
Once again Piglet has a big cs lead against Turtle, lets see if it converts to anything. This time there's a Sivir ulted Mao running at him so positioning is pivotal.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-16 20:43:30
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2371
On August 17 2015 05:41 Caiada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:40 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.


Viktor wins more against Azir than vice versa in both competitive and soloq, so you'd better have some actual depth to what you're saying than generic power curve horseshit.

azir loses vs everyone in soloq.He has 45% win rate.

Dunno man all I see is azir who is widely considered THE lategame champ outfarming his opponent who is a counterpick.He is also running a summoner that is useless in 1v1.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2372
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
August 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#2373
On August 17 2015 05:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
After watching TI5 i cannot enjoy such a gameplay anymore, god damn it zzZZZzzZZzzZzz


http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Dota 2

Bye.
XDG Mata
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
August 16 2015 20:43 GMT
#2374
On August 17 2015 05:42 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:39 LimpingGoat wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:37 GolemMadness wrote:
Piglet and Xpecial have just been shitting on Wildturtle and Lustboy in lane these two games. Now just gotta stop doing stupid shit later.


This isn't soloq cs difference in these games comes down to how the teams play the laneswaps. At least in top and bot.


30 CS at 10 minutes when they've mostly been 2v2 does not come down to how they played the lane swap.


Kind of does.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
August 16 2015 20:43 GMT
#2375
On August 17 2015 05:40 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.

Viktor is not much worse than Azir late game and way better mid game.
Platinum Support GOD
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
August 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#2376
On August 17 2015 05:42 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:41 Caiada wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:40 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.


Viktor wins more against Azir than vice versa in both competitive and soloq, so you'd better have some actual depth to what you're saying than generic power curve horseshit.

azir loses vs everyone in soloq.He has 45% win rate.

Dunno man all I see is azir who is widely considered THE lategame champ outfarming his opponent who is a counterpick.


Well, he loses more vs Azir, so, yeah, gonna need something more thorough than 'lategame, yo.'
XDG Mata
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#2377
On August 17 2015 05:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
After watching TI5 i cannot enjoy such a gameplay anymore, god damn it zzZZZzzZZzzZzz

These teams are just bad.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#2378
The patience from Dom reeks of past trauma.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-16 20:47:21
August 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#2379
On August 17 2015 05:40 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:38 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:31 nafta wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:30 Goumindong wrote:
On August 17 2015 05:23 ketchup wrote:
Is there a hard counter to Azir that I'm missing? It's really weird they don't prioritize a champion that has proven to work with multiple team comps.

Viktor is strong against Azir but that is about it. And Viktor has a pretty bad record in NA so despite fenix winning on it before you never know

no he isn't rofl

No he isn't what? Strong against Azir? Have a had record in NA?

In all of S5 Viktor has a 54% win rate against Azir in 74 games. Not going to bother breaking things down. But Viktor is empirically and theoretically strong against Azir. http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/stats.php?id=104&season=S5

I don't think I should have to like Viktors bad performance in NA specifically.

How can a pick be strong vs another if he is a mid game focused vs a lategame focused when they both just split farm?That makes no sense.Is he good at following up hard engage with your team in teamfights?Yes.Is he good individually in a 1v1?no.


Because Viktor hard clears the wave and pushes minions past azirs sand soldiers forcing him to use more mana and/or staying in lane. This gives Viktor a roaming advantage in lane. Outside of lane Azir and Viktor do a similar thing except that Viktor does more immediate damage and then his team can kite out of azirs soldiers and if Azir comes in he comes into zone control and a massive nuke. It makes it very hard for Azir to make plays and ensures that if he doesn't Viktor has a slight advantage in the fight.

Azir can definitely win the matchup but Viktor being strong against him is one of the primary reasons Viktor is picked in all regions.

Edit: I mean one of the items that Azir really wants to be able to make plays on Viktor is zhonya(so he can come in, zhonya the ult/e/w combo). But that was just nerfed and is an armor item so has a hard build up against Viktor.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#2380
On August 17 2015 05:42 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
After watching TI5 i cannot enjoy such a gameplay anymore, god damn it zzZZZzzZZzzZzz

you dont even need t ocompare it to another game

after watching yesterday LGD vs EDG this is just zz

I guess i should watch china then.


On August 17 2015 05:42 Caiada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 05:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
After watching TI5 i cannot enjoy such a gameplay anymore, god damn it zzZZZzzZZzzZzz


http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Dota 2

Bye.

YOu wanna say this is exciting gameplay? Really?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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