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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:21:34
September 27 2014 14:10 GMT
#6901
Reddit baying for a rematch of FNC-OMG. Won't happen because no time (tie-breakers are looking to be possible and maybe even likely for both groups; plus who knows how much time Riot has before they have to clean up and move everything out of expo), but I'm popcorning anyways.

EDIT: I really hope tiebreakers won't be decided by time-ratings.
On one hand it makes for interesting 'against the clock' matches (which happened once or twice in DotA2, can't rmbr which team) and punishes the refuse-to-win syndrome that seems to be plaguing this group. On the other hand it's really shitty, and league of legends as played on summoner's rift wasn't designed to be a time-gated game (as opposed to say, CS:GO).
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 27 2014 14:17 GMT
#6902
today we had the best games for sure, it's been a very entertaining day, looking forward to the games tomorrow!!!
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:19:53
September 27 2014 14:17 GMT
#6903
On September 27 2014 23:02 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 22:58 Naphal wrote:
On September 27 2014 22:56 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 22:37 Redox wrote:
On September 27 2014 22:34 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 22:32 ShootAnonymous wrote:
SG live audience got such a treat compared to the TW ones (ignoring the fan-importance of local teams).

TWO KR team defeats one of which was a perfect (albeit rather boring) game, one back-and-forth almost-backdoor down-three-inhibs-to-win game, unpredictability and upsets from day 1... Perhaps the games from A&B may have been higher caliber (I knownothing), but entertainment-value-wise C&D triumphs them by a mile and then some more.


Groups A/B have an overall lower skill level. SSW was pretty much the only team out of those 2 groups.

And after the tournament China will be talked up because they got 3 teams into quarters and 1 into semis.


Most likely but we'll have to see how EDG plays in a series. That is supposedly their strength so maybe they'll not be awful and CN can claim to be decent.


as long as they dont default to a defeatist attitude, i am actually looking forward to it!


Well Yango was telling me that CN as a whole stagnated really hard this year so it was surprising to him that anyone was hyping the region. Hell SHRC loos like best CN team(Well aside from LMQ) at this event which is pretty sad. Hopefully bracket play is better.

Honestly China has been pretty mediocre, EDG are the best but are absurdly abusable as evidenced by AHQ and SSW abusing the fuck out of their early game. OMG have been strugglers since dada replaced cloud and they took on a former iG coach, YG has an awful ADC but may be something good next split. WE.A just failed best not to think about it and iG still iG.

World Elite is currently rebuilding with their last two legends retiring and LGD did have promise but they haven't refined their mid game enough and their top/jungle are completely worthless (Unless jungle gets lee, then he's pretty good). I had hoped that the games where starhorn and YG just abused their early game were blips but looking at worlds it seems less so.

Oh and starhorn is just a stupid team, they rely on going HAM then crying to zero to bail them which I guess worked so far?
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:21:46
September 27 2014 14:21 GMT
#6904
Wtf Fnatic vs OMG. That was so close. ._.

On September 27 2014 23:10 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Reddit baying for a rematch of FNC-OMG. Won't happen because no time (tie-breakers are looking to be possible and maybe even likely for both groups), but I'm popcorning anyways.

On what ground?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
September 27 2014 14:23 GMT
#6905
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:40:15
September 27 2014 14:25 GMT
#6906
On September 27 2014 23:21 Alaric wrote:
Wtf Fnatic vs OMG. That was so close. ._.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:10 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Reddit baying for a rematch of FNC-OMG. Won't happen because no time (tie-breakers are looking to be possible and maybe even likely for both groups), but I'm popcorning anyways.

On what ground?

Some bug involving Khazix's homeguards not being cancelled by kogmaw's auto during the last moments of the former's recall. Which is important because that brief moment of homeguard regen allowed Khazix to regen faster = come out of fountain faster = kill Rumblr faster = Nexus saved. There's debate over what is actually considered as 'entering combat', among other things.

Two posts regarding it hit the frontpage alr, possibly more to follow.

I'm just popcorning because Riot + bugs + competitive = mess. lol.

Edit: more details.

On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.


Any mention if it's all gonna be right after the reg. group matches are played or are scheduling it on another day?
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2014 14:36 GMT
#6907
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:44:11
September 27 2014 14:39 GMT
#6908
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2hm1au/spoilerin_the_game_between_fnc_and_omg_happend_a/ this

It's bullshit, this "bug" has been around for a fucking long time, everyone knew it and it's only now that their favorite team are going to lose in groupstage that they're trying to find anything they can to save them.
Such a pity

Sad thing is that it's going to serve as another excuse with the "that was the hardest group" to explain while FNC lost in groupstage. Hardcore fans are fucking annoying omg
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 27 2014 14:44 GMT
#6909
On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.

Getting a bye for the fastest game is retarded, but i hope it won't happen anyway
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
September 27 2014 14:45 GMT
#6910
On September 27 2014 23:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.

Getting a bye for the fastest game is retarded, but i hope it won't happen anyway

Either way, Riot needs some way to go "No, we need to stop now."
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
September 27 2014 14:46 GMT
#6911
How can fnatic get tru now?

Need to win vs koreans and hope for a loss?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2014 14:54 GMT
#6912
On September 27 2014 23:45 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.

Getting a bye for the fastest game is retarded, but i hope it won't happen anyway

Either way, Riot needs some way to go "No, we need to stop now."


Yea exactly doing another round with a bye is far better than just doing time ratings for winner.
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
September 27 2014 14:56 GMT
#6913
So according to Susie Kim's interview of Froggen it is now official that EU > NA.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 27 2014 14:58 GMT
#6914
With the same logic that proved NA > EU yesterday, we can indeed see thaf EU is clearly superior to NA according to todays results
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 15:21:38
September 27 2014 15:21 GMT
#6915
On September 27 2014 23:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.

Getting a bye for the fastest game is retarded, but i hope it won't happen anyway


Fastest win in the tiebreakers I think, so at least teams know to stall it out/push faster if they need to.
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 27 2014 15:25 GMT
#6916
Its looking pretty hard for NA to get out of the groups LMQ needs to beat OMG and C9 needs to beat NJWS just for a chance. How do tie breaks work again?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 15:27:45
September 27 2014 15:25 GMT
#6917
On September 27 2014 23:46 Moralez wrote:
How can fnatic get tru now?

Need to win vs koreans and hope for a loss?


Fnatic > Blue
OMG < LMQ
LMQ < Blue

Fnatic are going to play tiebreakers with LMQ.
If OMQ wins against LMQ, Fnatic are done, even if they go 2-0 vs Samsung team.

For C9.

C9 > Kabum
C9 > Shield
[A] > Kabum

All three teams at 4-2, tiebreakers happen.
Or.

C9 > Shield
C9 > Kabum
[A] < Kabum

Highly unlikely, though C9 and Shield are through with C9 playing tiebreakers with Shield for 1st spot.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 27 2014 15:38 GMT
#6918
On September 28 2014 00:25 GettingIt wrote:
Its looking pretty hard for NA to get out of the groups LMQ needs to beat OMG and C9 needs to beat NJWS just for a chance. How do tie breaks work again?


TSM is already through groups.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 27 2014 15:39 GMT
#6919
On September 27 2014 23:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 23:36 Numy wrote:
On September 27 2014 23:23 RouaF wrote:
Well there are probably rules out there right ? Riot won't just decide on the fly what they are going to do if tiebreakers happen.


They mentioned on stream how it will happen. They will play a round robin tie breaker. If it's still no winner after that they will do a single elim bracket with the team with with time rating getting a bye in first rounds. It's not the best but I think it's a good compromise.

Getting a bye for the fastest game is retarded, but i hope it won't happen anyway


you gotta have something to break repeated stalemates.

time is the better of the few options they have.
gold difference would incite a team just not finishing and farm instead, KDA is useless too in an objective based game.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 27 2014 15:40 GMT
#6920
On September 27 2014 23:39 Sakray wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2hm1au/spoilerin_the_game_between_fnc_and_omg_happend_a/ this

It's bullshit, this "bug" has been around for a fucking long time, everyone knew it and it's only now that their favorite team are going to lose in groupstage that they're trying to find anything they can to save them.
Such a pity

Sad thing is that it's going to serve as another excuse with the "that was the hardest group" to explain while FNC lost in groupstage. Hardcore fans are fucking annoying omg


Why are you so salty?

Bug there for 4 years or 4 days, the only thing that matters is that without said bug Rumble would have destroyed the Nexus and OMG wouldn't have won. Simple as.
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