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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#5261
I honestly can't believe alliance managed to throw this game with their team comp
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#5262
EU has such a primitive vision game
Science>Mechanics
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#5263
what if Kabum beats Alliance.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#5264
On September 26 2014 19:07 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 19:06 ManBaker wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:06 las91 wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:05 ManBaker wrote:
Froggen is by far the worst asset of all of Alliance

He's been playing horribly

What the fuck was that positioning


Froggen is hardly worse than Shook, although they both have been getting repeatedly caught.



Shook is bad because he's a bad player

Froggen is good and playing horribly, much more troublesome for Alliance


How is Froggen good? I've seen him lose two lanes in as many games and be out of position repeatedly in both games as well, literally no different than Shook in my eyes.

"Lost" with TF vs Lulu who got repeated help from support. Ok.
Off-season = best season
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2265 Posts
September 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#5265
On September 26 2014 19:08 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 19:07 UmberBane wrote:
I'm pretty confident that even without Tristana if you let Shield come back like that you'll get a beating late game.


Yeah, Zefa could probably do the same thing with Kog


Kog's lategame is almost as cancer as trist's no? I thought of it as more dmg but less mobility, but with lulu support that should be fine
Cogito, ergo Toss
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 26 2014 10:10 GMT
#5266
So it seems the pre-gauntlet "no early game, but it doesn't matter" White Shield is back. I don't mind.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
September 26 2014 10:10 GMT
#5267
On September 26 2014 19:07 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 19:06 ManBaker wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:06 las91 wrote:
On September 26 2014 19:05 ManBaker wrote:
Froggen is by far the worst asset of all of Alliance

He's been playing horribly

What the fuck was that positioning


Froggen is hardly worse than Shook, although they both have been getting repeatedly caught.



Shook is bad because he's a bad player

Froggen is good and playing horribly, much more troublesome for Alliance


How is Froggen good? I've seen him lose two lanes in as many games and be out of position repeatedly in both games as well, literally no different than Shook in my eyes.


go watch some EU LCS and then shut up mate
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 26 2014 10:10 GMT
#5268
Shield tristana comp, this reminds me of CLGs relegation matches LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4756 Posts
September 26 2014 10:10 GMT
#5269
So sad.
Pathetic Greta hater.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 26 2014 10:11 GMT
#5270
Well Nyph missed ult in every important teamfight... That also played as well.

There is nobody to specifically blame for the loss, all of Alliance had flaws.
The legend of Darien lives on
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 26 2014 10:11 GMT
#5271
ALL vs NJWS or how to stop worrying and pick Trist.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 26 2014 10:11 GMT
#5272
I didn't realize EU LCS was a more competitve place than Worlds, my mistake Froggen is a god.
In Inca we trust
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
September 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#5273
wow the EU throws
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#5274
Gorilla mvp. Tabbz playing and building like shit.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
September 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#5275
On September 26 2014 08:50 Gorsameth wrote:
They are to used to extending and extending because the enemy will make a mistake and let them get back into the game. They are to afraid to risk it all by making plays when behind and it showed in the Alliance and Fnatic games where they just sat back until they died.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
September 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#5276
Froggen is good, but he's also overrated. The pre group consensus is that he's the best mid laner in this group. But he's not playing like it at all.
日本語が分かりますか
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
September 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#5277
Lol blaming froggen for this game is dumb, it was alliance's midgame play and lack of vision that lost them the game, plain and simple.
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 26 2014 10:13 GMT
#5278
On September 26 2014 19:10 qotsager wrote:
go watch some EU LCS and then shut up mate

His opponents in EU LCS are Jesiz, xPeke and Overpow. I don't care how high his skill ceiling is, beasting in EU LCS is not an indicator of being a good midlaner.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 10:14:01
September 26 2014 10:13 GMT
#5279
On September 26 2014 19:11 las91 wrote:
I didn't realize EU LCS was a more competitve place than Worlds, my mistake Froggen is a god.

You are simply talking nonsense, that is all there is to it. If Nyph had caught one hook less everybody would have talked about how good Froggen is since All had beaten the Koreans. This is how random this is.
Off-season = best season
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2265 Posts
September 26 2014 10:13 GMT
#5280
Joe 'don't call me Joe 'Joe Miller' Miller' Miller
Cogito, ergo Toss
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