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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Honestly singling someone out is waste of time, from top to bottom everyone in CLG has been playing like shit. Except maybe aphro, the teamcalls have been terrible, the individual play has been off and the throws are real
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On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations.
Imagine you had someone in your team that u can't really trust. Someone that sometimes randomly does really bad decisions. That can really bring you down. What is all the effort you put in worth if the outcome is never really sure?
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Boys get your popcorn ready for the nuclear lvl community backlash rip CLG
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Holy shit the dmg from Cop
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On August 25 2014 07:08 meowmasta85 wrote:LOL just tuned in. What happend to CLG. I thought they were supposed to be GODS after dat Korean bootcamp ?? 
God is dead.
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On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations.
The only people who believe that are the same ones who think Xpecial was the problem on TSM.
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On August 25 2014 07:08 meowmasta85 wrote:LOL just tuned in. What happend to CLG. I thought they were supposed to be GODS after dat Korean bootcamp ??
what's god to a non-believer
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations.
Can we blame Weixiao for WE missing second Worlds in a row as well?
Like, be serious.
When 3 players in your team are choking, while other 2 are on a same lane, you know, it's not good.
I hope, they stick together.
Poll: Curse - CLG (Game 3)- Curse for Worlds. (5) 45% - Mediocre game (4) 36% - Bad game (2) 18% - Excellent game (0) 0% - Good game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Curse - CLG (Game 3) (Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Curse for Worlds.
Oh well, shit sucks.
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Hai is pretty fun here at the desk. He isn't that enthusiastic, but says things that aren't cliches, and are different+things I don't already know.
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On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations.
correlation =/= causation
other than the time when Doublelift would try to play 1v5, ignore the map, and just splitpush/farm, he's always played very well. CLG's bot lane generally always perform reasonably well.
Besides, if you look at CLG's past members, they weren't pretty bad when they were swapped out. I mean, in top you had HSGG who could literally only play Nid and Cho, Nien who just cracked under pressure. In jungle you had HSGG (lol), Chauster (lolol). For mid you had Jiji who was notorious for not wanting to practice.
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welp, time for clg to go on vacation
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On August 25 2014 07:09 Neverhood wrote:
Boys get your popcorn ready for the nuclear lvl community backlash rip CLG
Yes, totally unjustified, those damn angry fanboys right?
CLG should release its whole roster no excuses.
Possibly keep Aphromoo, and that's it. Everyone else has to go.
Especially "the only one guy who's been in the team in every single failure".
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Vancouver14381 Posts
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On August 25 2014 07:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations. Can we blame Weixiao for WE missing second Worlds in a row as well? Like, be serious. When 3 players in your team are choking, while other 2 are on a same lane, you know, it's not good. I hope, they stick together. Oh well, shit sucks.
Every single CLG team becomes a protect the doublelift regardless of if that's what's best for the team because that's the only way double can play. You can't rely on him not to be fine without a shitton of support and even if you give him all that support he may still throw it all away randomly. He's also the most senior member with supposedly a high authority in the team. Remember he was the one behind the horrible locodoco support. If anyone should be benched he should have long long ago.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Honestly, i want only one thing now.
TSM getting 0-6'd for Reginald to finally shut up.
Not like i'm salty or anything, but when your team would have been 0-3'd by either Curse/CLG, it's hilarious to scream on every point that CLG and MonteCristo blow.
On August 25 2014 07:12 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations. Can we blame Weixiao for WE missing second Worlds in a row as well? Like, be serious. When 3 players in your team are choking, while other 2 are on a same lane, you know, it's not good. I hope, they stick together. Oh well, shit sucks. Every single CLG team becomes a protect the doublelift regardless of if that's what's best for the team because that's the only way double can play. You can't rely on him not to be fine without a shitton of support and even if you give him all that support he may still throw it all away randomly. He's also the most senior member with supposedly a high authority in the team. Remember he was the one behind the horrible locodoco support. If anyone should be benched he should have long long ago.
CLG Season 4 never played as protect the Doublelift, even at the worst point.
He transformed his playstyle completely, to achieve the Worlds and they failed again.
It's not him, who's the problem.
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On August 25 2014 07:10 triangle wrote:Oh boy here we go.
I don't get it did people actually think that Montecristo worked as a "proper fulltime coach" ?
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On August 25 2014 07:05 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 25 2014 06:59 TitusVI wrote:On August 25 2014 06:55 orzeu wrote:On August 25 2014 06:53 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 25 2014 06:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 25 2014 06:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
Seraph was the worst pick up easily this split. why would they get a top laner that only plays carries to play tanks all split? LOL. BECUZ KOREAN I love how monte criticized TSM for picking up amazing but they easily had the biggest bust of all time and their scouting during the tryouts was clearly terrible seraph IS a good player but its the fault of the coaching/team to consistently put him on shit like maokai/lulu instead of what he excels at. He plays very well on champs like nid/yasuo/etc... Good player is able to play meta champions and have impact on the game. yep. I don't think he is that good of a player. The language barrier is a problem also. seraph was a bad pick in general. and yet when I said that multiple times in the past, all i got were fanboys yelling at me with fifty million excuses but to be fair, Seraph is probably the least of CLG's problems. Link has been really underwhelming/non-existent for a long long time. Dexter has also been playing quite bad - he seems to have absolutely no confidence in his play. You can see it in how scared and cautious he plays in almost every single game. Honestly the problem with CLG has always been Double. Every iteration of the team falls into the exact same issue. Think it's about time we stopped ignoring the only consistent link throughout all the iterations.
Do you mean because he is toxic / creates a bad team atmosphere? I dont think we know enough to conclude that. His play is not bad and not outstanding imo, average LCS level.
But he was probably also responsible for how CLG constantly overrated themselves. There always seemed to be a rift between their perception and reality. I meaa it is a team that never reached a LCS final, they were 5, 5, 3 so far. Just an average LCS team, but always talked like competition in NA doesnt even matter, goal was great performance at worlds (not just getting to worlds), bottom LCS teams are laughably bad etc.
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