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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 20 2014 03:58 GMT
#21
lmq is really bad early game. pls replace jungler
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
February 20 2014 04:02 GMT
#22
It's hard being right all the time.

LMQ have lots of reoccurring issues, not just bad games once in a while.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 04:14:15
February 20 2014 04:04 GMT
#23
their botlane is good. godlike is passable in the LCS. but their vision control is so bad lol so they keep getting caught out. jungler is literally not even diamond 1

>pick leesin feed early
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 20 2014 04:11 GMT
#24
I first read it as C9 LemonNation and thought: wait wat, he's a top laner now?

tricksy
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 20 2014 04:21 GMT
#25
PSA: C9T LomoNation = Yazuki
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 20 2014 08:56 GMT
#26
On February 20 2014 13:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
PSA: C9T LomoNation = Yazuki

lomo
God Bless
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 12:00:12
February 20 2014 11:55 GMT
#27
On February 20 2014 10:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 18:00 1ntrigue wrote:
Last month, LMQ was stomping every single lane and in the jungle against every single other NA challenger team and the games were all decided if not conceded by 20 minutes.

In the last week alone, LMQ has had to come back from early and mid-game deficits at least 2-3 times.

Let's hope that trend doesn't continue when they have more serious games at stake.


Which is why LMQ is good for the overall skill level of the NA scene, IMO.

It is only to some extent. With their decline in skill level (you could argue improvement in NA Challenger scene, but I disagree), they will no longer add anything to the NA scene very soon unless they pick themselves up and start training as if they were still in China.

On February 20 2014 13:02 Itsmedudeman wrote:
It's hard being right all the time.

LMQ have lots of reoccurring issues, not just bad games once in a while.

Except you're wrong. LMQ has completely dipped in form. It's not only their team calls which are losing them games - they are losing their lanes, something which was unthinkable when they first came to NA. Even XiaoWeiXiao, a relatively weak player, was stomping or completely out-farming and out-ganking his lane opponents. They have definitely mechanically regressed as well as their team synergy falling completely out the window.

It doesn't matter that LMQ was a mediocre LPL team if that is enough to make it a high-level LCS team at the least. They are playing much worse now than they were before.
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
February 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#28
I have to agree with the above. It seems nowadays they are losing individual lanes more often, and no longer have the early game advantage that they used in the first month they were here. Their individual plays look a bit off (perhaps due to NA soloQ mentality) and their teamfighting, while still good, is not as crisp as it was before. Hopefully they can pick it up soon...
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 14:40:46
February 20 2014 14:40 GMT
#29
On February 20 2014 20:55 1ntrigue wrote:
Except you're wrong. LMQ has completely dipped in form. It's not only their team calls which are losing them games - they are losing their lanes, something which was unthinkable when they first came to NA. Even XiaoWeiXiao, a relatively weak player, was stomping or completely out-farming and out-ganking his lane opponents. They have definitely mechanically regressed as well as their team synergy falling completely out the window.

It doesn't matter that LMQ was a mediocre LPL team if that is enough to make it a high-level LCS team at the least. They are playing much worse now than they were before.

Curse of NA. Like the Russian winter, foreign invaders be warned!
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 19:05:49
March 11 2014 19:05 GMT
#30
what games today are good? the lmq one?
Science>Mechanics
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 12 2014 02:00 GMT
#31
Complexity throwing arm super strong. 3k gold lead twice, give it back twice.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 05:03:47
March 12 2014 05:02 GMT
#32
Mor is playing like a god right now. Holy f @_@.

Noname basically afk this game lol.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 12 2014 05:22 GMT
#33
On March 12 2014 14:02 KissBlade wrote:
Mor is playing like a god right now. Holy f @_@.

Noname basically afk this game lol.


Better AFK than actively feeding.
TranslatorBaa!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 12 2014 06:29 GMT
#34
Chinese jungler woes continue.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 12 2014 07:06 GMT
#35
On March 12 2014 15:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Chinese jungler woes continue.

#FreeJingFromTheResponsibilitiesOfMarriage
Glorious SEA doto
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 13 2014 02:08 GMT
#36
Can someone post within spoilers stats/etc on LMQ vs Curse Academy?
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 17 2014 09:46 GMT
#37
lmq trolling nacl 100% with role swaps, mor feeding top, noname feeding mid, ackerman feeding jungle, xiaoweixiao derping sup. vasilii still adc
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
March 19 2014 12:34 GMT
#38
On March 17 2014 18:46 nobodywonder wrote:
lmq trolling nacl 100% with role swaps, mor feeding top, noname feeding mid, ackerman feeding jungle, xiaoweixiao derping sup. vasilii still adc


LMQ weren't trolling. Ryze is a hard counter to Renekton and Yasuo does really well vs. Nidalee, so LMQ lane-swapped because Bruiser Nidalee does really well vs. Ryze and Renekton does well vs. Yasuo.

LMQ even practiced this same strategy over the weekend in KaosTV's NA Challener Series #2 and got called trolls, then they bring it out vs. Email Support and executed it very well in the laning phase.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
March 20 2014 01:15 GMT
#39
the amount of disconnects and general pauses is making this league kind of ridiculous to spectate...games never start on time, and it kills the overall mood for the league. i feel like there should be a maximum # of pauses per team regardless of what the underlying issue is, and if that number is exceeded, automatically forfeit and move onto next game...this is just not fun for anyone
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#40
Team 8 really giving LMQ a good fight.

Fun games
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
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