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On February 17 2014 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:03 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:02 skykh wrote:On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:
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Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? Tsm get the most difficult group, c9 no warm-ups Well actually SKT not being first was a problem with how the Korean league is. So many people talk about how good it is, but really it meant that the strongest team wasn't considered "first place" because results from 6+ months prior were still relevant with their system. If that wasn't the case, then SKT wouldn't have been in groups. As for C9 not getting warm ups, I didn't hear about that, but that's pretty shitty. OGN as a tournament has a great format, but the points for qualifying for Worlds is flawed
SKT prefers the handicap.
Jax is 1 item away from 1v3 status.
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On February 17 2014 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:03 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:02 skykh wrote:On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:
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Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? Tsm get the most difficult group, c9 no warm-ups Well actually SKT not being first was a problem with how the Korean league is. So many people talk about how good it is, but really it meant that the strongest team wasn't considered "first place" because results from 6+ months prior were still relevant with their system. If that wasn't the case, then SKT wouldn't have been in groups. As for C9 not getting warm ups, I didn't hear about that, but that's pretty shitty. OGN as a tournament has a great format, but the points for qualifying for Worlds is flawed
Well that's what I was referring to in particular.
If you wouldn't mind educating me though, why is their format so great otherwise?
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United States19229 Posts
On February 17 2014 08:02 skykh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? Tsm get the most difficult group, c9 no warm-ups
"most dificult group" Lmao. Maybe if TSM didn't drop out of group stages with 2 wins and 4th place you could whine about such a stupid thing.
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EG with the superior rotations :D
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rofl riv "zion making his teacher proud"
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Coast decision making. My word...
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard?
I know that it's about other thing but.
For example Riot after 4 years still don't know how to reward teams properly.
Compare how SKT T1 was given their trophey after last OGN and that absolutely bald and awkward S3 Worlds finish.
Meanwhile, Volibear is another champion who fall from his 100% winrate throne this season it seems.
Nevermind, ok.
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These last 2 CST games remind me how much I hate jax.
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Wow, they get the free baron. rofl. what.
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Krepo's Tibbers micro pretty good XD
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On February 17 2014 08:02 skykh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? Tsm get the most difficult group, c9 no warm-ups
Let's be fair here. TSM wasn't getting out of either group and saying C9 had no warm up because they got seeded is pretty lol
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United States19229 Posts
On February 17 2014 08:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? I know that it's about other thing but. For example Riot after 4 years still don't know how to reward teams properly. Compare how SKT T1 was given their trophey after last OGN and that absolutely bald and awkward S3 Worlds finish. Meanwhile, Volibear is another champion who fall from his 100% winrate throne this season it seems.
Because at the end of the day Riot isn't trying to promote esports/tournament as much as their product.
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LOL. IS that bruiser or an assassin? LOL.
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On February 17 2014 08:09 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:02 skykh wrote:On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? Tsm get the most difficult group, c9 no warm-ups Let's be fair here. TSM wasn't getting out of either group and saying C9 had no warm up because they got seeded is pretty lol
Idk, I'd give TSM a pretty decent chance to get out of that group. Vulcun almost got out, and Gambit/Ozone played really poorly at Worlds.
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On February 17 2014 08:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 08:01 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 08:00 Woony wrote:On February 17 2014 07:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:56 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 17 2014 07:47 Chicane wrote:On February 17 2014 07:44 Redox wrote:On February 17 2014 07:39 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think Riot is fucking retarded for trying to make allstars a serious thing anyways. I swear it's just because they can't get their ass around having some other real international tournaments except for worlds so they abuse the poor all-stars. Yeah All-stars is a surrogate for real international competition, to make us shut up about it. Which is why I am annoyed by all the hype around it. We had BotA at the start, Worlds at the end, and small things like IEM. I don't understand why people think it is so wrong that fans like me get to enjoy a "fun" tournament. I enjoy the unique aspect to it. I do wish Riot would also encourage teams to go to events like IEM though in the many ways they could. AllStars are okay. But not when they give fucking spot at Worlds just for lulz. They could give it to Korea anyway and all could be okay with it. But giving enormously important spot for region just because of "mix" who adapted to each other faster than other? It's kinda weird to say the least. Well I was responding to it being a "surrogate for real international competition". I can't say I really care too much about the reward though. It's really just the one team that doesn't do well doesn't get a top 8 placement, right? It just means that for whichever region does worst, the best team from that region has to make it out of groups. Meh. Riot said that this shit with bye rounds won't happen again. Thank God i hope it won't be like replays or Magma Chamber. #neverforget S1, S2 and S3 finals all had huge fuckups in terms of tournament format/running so I don't exactly trust Riot to not fuck it up. How was S3 a huge fuck up in that regard? I know that it's about other thing but. For example Riot after 4 years still don't know how to reward teams properly. Compare how SKT T1 was given their trophey after last OGN and that absolutely bald and awkward S3 Worlds finish. Meanwhile, Volibear is another champion who fall from his 100% winrate throne this season it seems.
Ahh whatever... I think too many league fans are too picky. If things like that are considered a huge fuck up to you, I just can't agree. Yeah it is worth giving them feedback and they should improve, but I just.. blah.
Alright whatever.
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Why the hell didn't Bear q go off there? :/
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EPT
