[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 3 - Page 35

On February 01 2014 02:15 orzeu wrote:
Jwaow is good on carry top laners, he would suck with Alliance line up. Also his laning phase is not that good.

On February 01 2014 01:14 UdderChaos wrote:
Is it just me or are alliance really bad. Froggen we know can play, and is just on crapy form. But I swear, other than maybe tabz (haven't seen much from him, seems to do ok) and obviously froggen, their team is dogshite. Wickd seems over-rated and then there's the other two. Shook and nyph just look awful. They seem as if forggen just picked two random diamond 2 players. Sure they are good at lol compared to most but they really don't look professional standard. I don't get how players of that standard are being paid to play. Nyph's thresh play in particular is just so meh. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sat like 0 hooks landed after laning phase all lcs (ok maybe the odd one on Leona but that doesn't really count). Where did Froggen find these players? And he really needs a shot caller and team leader.

On February 01 2014 02:22 Flicky wrote:


I'm of the opinion that there's some kind of deeper problem to Alliance's results and I can pin it to is Froggen/Wickd's idea of how the game should be played. A lot of us assumed that EG's playstyle was courtesy of the other three players, but it's clearly linked to Froggen now.

If you watch Nyph's play from the reformed SK, he was initiating, play making and leading his team. Now he's super passive with Tabbz.
When Tabbz was on LD, he was more aggressive and more focused on dueling. Now he's super passive.
Shook (which I've still never seen him perform) was famous for being a super aggressive and deadly jungler.

The way these three are being utilised doesn't match their levels at all and I can only pin it down to the fact that neither Froggen nor Wickd are team-leaders and haven't got a clue about how to play League right now. As far as skill levels go, the team should be ok, it's just their archaic leadership that's not allowing them to flourish.

Wickd and Froggen are stuck so far in Season 2 that it's not even funny any more. Replace Wickd with some hot, fresh top laner (whoever plays the meta) and give the leadership role to Nyph (who has shown that he can lead SK Gaming) and just copy the Koreans. Simple, Alliance now best team in Europe.

On February 01 2014 02:26 Fusilero wrote:

Shook on copenhagen wolves was a god, since unlimited/rekkles pretty much always won bot lane he'd just run around auto winning top and mid for cowtard and youngbuck. Tbh he does look far more passive he doesn't seem to be actively seeking to make plays and snowball lanes like he used to. Might be partially that he now has to account for all lanes rather than letting rekkles/unlimited dominate by themselves but I don't think a weaker bot alone is the root of his issues.
It might be worth noting "best jungler EU" shook was always with youngbuck, I think youngbuck is a leader and he might have played a part in making shook so good.

On February 01 2014 02:39 orzeu wrote:

Main problem with Shook is that ppl perma ban Elise/Lee against him and he can't carry in early game like he did in CW. Also trinkets (wards lvl 1) force him to play farm game. Still he should play way better.

On February 01 2014 02:49 AsnSensation wrote:
They kinda fucked themselves over yesterday with the lee ban against diamond, ofc they are going to fp khazix away from A, but still wukong, Jarvan or Noc or anything else was still open but they go for nunu lmao.

On February 01 2014 02:51 Fusilero wrote:

It's a bit bizarre how alliance doesn't draw bans like copenhagen wolves did, lots of bans vs wolves with shook was at cowtard in particular which left shook on his champions of choice like J4, lee sin and elise.

Shook was actually really big on J4 with wolves but J4 isn't good anymore I guess :/

On February 01 2014 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Can fnatic be stopped? Even with sloppy play and missing 2 bans they still managed to beat CW. If xpeke doesn't show up, then rekkles and soaz is there to keep um in the game. If rekkles gets shutdown, soaz and xpeke there, etc etc.

On February 01 2014 02:57 Fusilero wrote:

With better positioning from celevar and overpow is a bit more careful with his split push roccat is still pretty even with fnatic imo.
Also never doubt gambit's ability to randomly play like world champions for one match

On February 01 2014 03:01 wei2coolman wrote:

I mean, it's one thing to take a game off fnatic, but is there in a team that would give um a run for their money in like a bo5?