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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 23:13 GMT
#641
GEE GEE. FNATIC WINS.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#642
Cait's positioning was... what.

Well, they also let Trundle die when they could have used Kayle and Karma to help him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#643
Yeah CW should have won that. Big fail focussing Renekton and not getting him, while Fnatic killed Trundle.
Off-season = best season
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#644
Poll: Recommend Wolves vs Fnatic Week 3?

Yes (5)
 
50%

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40%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Wolves vs Fnatic Week 3?

(Vote): Yes
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ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#645
That was too close. Kayle late game is such bs
Platinum Support GOD
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#646
That was looking scary at times for such a strong team! O_O
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#647
I hope this game taught Peke not to fool around in games they think they've won.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
January 30 2014 23:15 GMT
#648
^_____^
Writer:o
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:18:12
January 30 2014 23:15 GMT
#649
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

I disagree. Trundle's a master at 1v1 due to his W and ult. I'd argue that he's actually better at 1v1 than teamfighting.

If anything, he's much weaker in set up teamfights where teams are poking at each other since he has poor sustain, poor waveclear, and no poke to speak of. His ability to catch people also isn't very good either.
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
January 30 2014 23:16 GMT
#650
Typical fnatic fooling around instead of securing win and doing lots of useless mistakes ~~
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:16
January 30 2014 23:17 GMT
#651
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

You're vastly underestimating how much the CDR helps Trundle, it gives him more chomps, more Contaminate (for more sustain and auto dps), more sticking power through Pillar and it makes his ult close to Kayle's in terms of cooldown. It also makes him safer because all of these (MS buff, pillar, ult) are on lower cooldowns for escaping too.

On January 31 2014 08:14 MattBarry wrote:
That was too close. Kayle late game is such bs

You realise the opposing mid was Ziggs, right?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:06
January 30 2014 23:17 GMT
#652
double post
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:14
January 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#653
i can just imagine the fnatic chat yelling penta when xpeke flashed over the baron wall into 4
TSM
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#654
On January 31 2014 08:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

You're vastly underestimating how much the CDR helps Trundle, it gives him more chomps, more Contaminate (for more sustain and auto dps), more sticking power through Pillar and it makes his ult close to Kayle's in terms of cooldown. It also makes him safer because all of these (MS buff, pillar, ult) are on lower cooldowns for escaping too.

I dunno, it's questionable, giant AoE slow is pretty damn bonkers, CDR is nice, but I dunno if I would trade 20% cdr for 500 hp and AoE slow.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:26 GMT
#655
You were talking about a 1v1, Randuin's active is a one-time use in these situations while you're close to perma-uptime on Pillar (they nerfed it upon remake to avoid this) and Chomp has a mini-slow too (while slightly extending your range), so in terms of stickiness CDR isn't really inferior to Randuin's except for max range "initiations" where you want to get in Randuin's range before they leave the pillar area to chain the slow and let you get in melee range. And in that case if you went BotRK then you don't necessarily need randuin's.

If you've only got one defensive item I agree that FH sadly sufffers from resistances being so inferior to HP since s3 and you should build HP first.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 30 2014 23:27 GMT
#656
I thought Czaru wasn't going to do the coke league. Hmm I must have not remembered quickly, and maybe he was just taking a short break?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2014 23:31 GMT
#657
On January 31 2014 08:26 Alaric wrote:
You were talking about a 1v1, Randuin's active is a one-time use in these situations while you're close to perma-uptime on Pillar (they nerfed it upon remake to avoid this) and Chomp has a mini-slow too (while slightly extending your range), so in terms of stickiness CDR isn't really inferior to Randuin's except for max range "initiations" where you want to get in Randuin's range before they leave the pillar area to chain the slow and let you get in melee range. And in that case if you went BotRK then you don't necessarily need randuin's.

If you've only got one defensive item I agree that FH sadly sufffers from resistances being so inferior to HP since s3 and you should build HP first.

Sure, but on Trundle who already gets a ton of free hp from your opponent building hp, I think FH is severely undervalued.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:43:28
January 30 2014 23:43 GMT
#658
On January 31 2014 08:27 Chicane wrote:
I thought Czaru wasn't going to do the coke league. Hmm I must have not remembered quickly, and maybe he was just taking a short break?

In case you missed it casters said MYM submitted their roster change too late so MYm cant play with the mid laner they practised with, and Czaru who is on vacation from LoL has to play.
Off-season = best season
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 30 2014 23:58 GMT
#659
Sometimes I wonder along the lines of "What would happen if Czaru had a team?"
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:58 GMT
#660
That fight was tense in the end, with the Gragas+Jinx / Olaf+Katarina face-off. I was surprised they went for Lulu but yeah... free reset and her ult was down anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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