• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:38
CEST 12:38
KST 19:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)12Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy5Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week2Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025) TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL
Tourneys
EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Pro Gamers Cope with Str…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 28285 users

[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 3 - Page 33

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 59 Next
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 23:13 GMT
#641
GEE GEE. FNATIC WINS.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#642
Cait's positioning was... what.

Well, they also let Trundle die when they could have used Kayle and Karma to help him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#643
Yeah CW should have won that. Big fail focussing Renekton and not getting him, while Fnatic killed Trundle.
Off-season = best season
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#644
Poll: Recommend Wolves vs Fnatic Week 3?

Yes (5)
 
50%

No (4)
 
40%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Wolves vs Fnatic Week 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#645
That was too close. Kayle late game is such bs
Platinum Support GOD
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#646
That was looking scary at times for such a strong team! O_O
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#647
I hope this game taught Peke not to fool around in games they think they've won.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
January 30 2014 23:15 GMT
#648
^_____^
Writer:o
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:18:12
January 30 2014 23:15 GMT
#649
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

I disagree. Trundle's a master at 1v1 due to his W and ult. I'd argue that he's actually better at 1v1 than teamfighting.

If anything, he's much weaker in set up teamfights where teams are poking at each other since he has poor sustain, poor waveclear, and no poke to speak of. His ability to catch people also isn't very good either.
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
January 30 2014 23:16 GMT
#650
Typical fnatic fooling around instead of securing win and doing lots of useless mistakes ~~
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:16
January 30 2014 23:17 GMT
#651
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

You're vastly underestimating how much the CDR helps Trundle, it gives him more chomps, more Contaminate (for more sustain and auto dps), more sticking power through Pillar and it makes his ult close to Kayle's in terms of cooldown. It also makes him safer because all of these (MS buff, pillar, ult) are on lower cooldowns for escaping too.

On January 31 2014 08:14 MattBarry wrote:
That was too close. Kayle late game is such bs

You realise the opposing mid was Ziggs, right?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:06
January 30 2014 23:17 GMT
#652
double post
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:19:14
January 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#653
i can just imagine the fnatic chat yelling penta when xpeke flashed over the baron wall into 4
TSM
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 23:19 GMT
#654
On January 31 2014 08:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 08:11 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 31 2014 08:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Yea I really think teams undervalue Frozen Heart.

Imo, Frozen Heart>Randuins on Trundle.

Not enough raw HP though.

Well between Trundle's ult on the enemy tank, sunfire, plus visage I think it should be enough.

maybe, but that's only on full on engages. trundle often split pushing, rarely you gunna get full engage on enemy toplaner. it's probably a better teamfight build, but worse 1v1 build. And he he got Randuisn when it was still split pushing time.

holy shit, xpeke spell vamping so much health.

You're vastly underestimating how much the CDR helps Trundle, it gives him more chomps, more Contaminate (for more sustain and auto dps), more sticking power through Pillar and it makes his ult close to Kayle's in terms of cooldown. It also makes him safer because all of these (MS buff, pillar, ult) are on lower cooldowns for escaping too.

I dunno, it's questionable, giant AoE slow is pretty damn bonkers, CDR is nice, but I dunno if I would trade 20% cdr for 500 hp and AoE slow.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:26 GMT
#655
You were talking about a 1v1, Randuin's active is a one-time use in these situations while you're close to perma-uptime on Pillar (they nerfed it upon remake to avoid this) and Chomp has a mini-slow too (while slightly extending your range), so in terms of stickiness CDR isn't really inferior to Randuin's except for max range "initiations" where you want to get in Randuin's range before they leave the pillar area to chain the slow and let you get in melee range. And in that case if you went BotRK then you don't necessarily need randuin's.

If you've only got one defensive item I agree that FH sadly sufffers from resistances being so inferior to HP since s3 and you should build HP first.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 30 2014 23:27 GMT
#656
I thought Czaru wasn't going to do the coke league. Hmm I must have not remembered quickly, and maybe he was just taking a short break?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2014 23:31 GMT
#657
On January 31 2014 08:26 Alaric wrote:
You were talking about a 1v1, Randuin's active is a one-time use in these situations while you're close to perma-uptime on Pillar (they nerfed it upon remake to avoid this) and Chomp has a mini-slow too (while slightly extending your range), so in terms of stickiness CDR isn't really inferior to Randuin's except for max range "initiations" where you want to get in Randuin's range before they leave the pillar area to chain the slow and let you get in melee range. And in that case if you went BotRK then you don't necessarily need randuin's.

If you've only got one defensive item I agree that FH sadly sufffers from resistances being so inferior to HP since s3 and you should build HP first.

Sure, but on Trundle who already gets a ton of free hp from your opponent building hp, I think FH is severely undervalued.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 23:43:28
January 30 2014 23:43 GMT
#658
On January 31 2014 08:27 Chicane wrote:
I thought Czaru wasn't going to do the coke league. Hmm I must have not remembered quickly, and maybe he was just taking a short break?

In case you missed it casters said MYM submitted their roster change too late so MYm cant play with the mid laner they practised with, and Czaru who is on vacation from LoL has to play.
Off-season = best season
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 30 2014 23:58 GMT
#659
Sometimes I wonder along the lines of "What would happen if Czaru had a team?"
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2014 23:58 GMT
#660
That fight was tense in the end, with the Gragas+Jinx / Olaf+Katarina face-off. I was surprised they went for Lulu but yeah... free reset and her ult was down anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 59 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SOOP
09:00
SOOPer7s #47
Cure vs ZounLIVE!
sooper7s
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 68
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8076
Rain 3219
Horang2 1373
Bisu 813
Hyuk 790
Pusan 453
Flash 388
BeSt 298
PianO 153
JulyZerg 152
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 126
Last 105
EffOrt 75
Mong 51
Mind 37
soO 31
Barracks 19
Movie 18
NotJumperer 16
[sc1f]eonzerg 13
SilentControl 9
Yoon 6
ivOry 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe482
XaKoH 458
League of Legends
JimRising 534
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1909
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor210
Other Games
singsing1222
Happy609
C9.Mang0367
DeMusliM243
SortOf79
Mew2King44
Trikslyr27
EnDerr4
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream14458
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5978
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH287
• StrangeGG 84
• LUISG 30
• Adnapsc2 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4095
• Stunt598
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
1h 22m
Road to EWC
3h 22m
SOOP Global
4h 22m
FuturE vs MaNa
Harstem vs Cham
BSL: ProLeague
7h 22m
Sziky vs JDConan
Cross vs MadiNho
Hawk vs Bonyth
Circuito Brasileiro de…
9h 22m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 22m
Road to EWC
1d 3h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 7h
UltrA vs TBD
Dewalt vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
NPSL Lushan
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.