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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#361
On January 15 2014 04:22 Kiett wrote:
Alex preemptively picks leblanc, lets Peke pick an extremely safe midlaner into it. Peke plays safe, Alex fails to snowball.

May not be an "outplay," but idk what more you can expect lol. They both had their roles. Peke did his job better than Alex did his. Maybe Alex should try waiting on the enemy mid pick before going lb next time.


there is difference between "outplaying" and "outscaling".
That's thing which gloryhunters can't stand when they jump on bandwagon.
That there're not amazing guy and guy who played amazingly bad, but different roles.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 19:26:24
January 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#362
On January 15 2014 04:21 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:15 Thinasy wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:12 Thinasy wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why everyone is blaming Genja here? :D
He got snowballed just, nothing weird.
If you're getting snowballed as Lucian, he's basically nothing.

Agreed with Quickshot on Leona right now, could work better but still.
No reason to discuss it.


If he actually got snowballed on, how is that NOT his fault? rofl


Annie-Jinx > Lucian-Thresh and he got first blooded after this invade.
All can fail, but blaming Genja for everything is ridiculous.


Yes I know that, but once again they got first blooded for a reason and they lost their lane way too hard, so ofc he's one of the 2 players to blame for the game.


Dude, it's fucking teamgame.
You can't blame one guy for loss.
Noone blamed kyxy for denying Aegis, coz Orange threw game against Na'Vi by collective throw.
Same here.


I already told you its not ONLY genjas fault, but he was probably the BIGGEST one.


The two things which lost them the game were arguably the lvl 1, which was a team call, then the double kill, which was a misplay by both edward and genja equally (and maybe a bit diamond.)

The double kill on jinx just shouldn't have happened, genja/edward had to have known that annie/jinx were about to hit 6, as the wave was pushed towards gambits tower. They just stood so close to each other that yellowstar was allowed to flash tibbers as he hit 6, then on top of they they still stood next to each other for the rest of the fight, allowing yellowstar to land another w stun on both of them, and then letting the rocket kill both of them. That's just bad synergy from edward/genja being a problem rather than genja being a problem.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#363
On January 15 2014 04:23 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
someone needs to associate the stream http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames with the calendar event >>


It was there until it went offline for a bit.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#364
On January 15 2014 04:24 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:21 Shiznick wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I'm diehard EG/Alliance fan.

But saying that Peke outplayed Alex this game is ridiculous.
Being tied in lane and whiffing 3 shockwaves except last one which meant nothing is called "outplay" now?

I missed something in this world.
And i still can't stand why only diehard EG/[A] fans can say that Alex and Peke were tied this game.

nah bro you dont understand, he had 10 kills to alex's 2, clear outplay.


the thing about the ori vs lb match-up is, ori just needs to not die. lb needs to kill her. if ori just doesn't die, and is ahead in cs (even as minuscule as it was) its a win. while I agree the laning phase was pretty much a draw seeing as alex wasn't able to make anything off of an early kill on peke and just played safe. in the teamfights peke completely "outplayed" alex, but that was also due to his team being so ahead and him being given free reign to do what he wanted. alex did nothing in teamfights.


You are correct, but really peke didnt do much in the teamfights either atleast until he got a couple of free kills due to Rekkles immense damage. He missed "most" of his Shockwaves that game, not saying he played bad or good.
Jaedong & Faker
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 14 2014 19:26 GMT
#365
Peke also pushed hard enough that he'd get the tower if alex roamed. He played safe while pushing.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 19:28:00
January 14 2014 19:27 GMT
#366
Btw at the people that say Leblanc is bad, wait for Froggen to play her (I hope he does).
Off-season = best season
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 14 2014 19:28 GMT
#367
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 19:30 GMT
#368
Shook's braces are op.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 14 2014 19:30 GMT
#369
Shook needs some help from the coach on how to present himself.

Get rid of the peach fuzz dude.
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Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
January 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#370
On January 15 2014 04:28 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:25 Ghost-z wrote:
So what makes shyvanna+mundo so much better than renekton+nasus? Their mass AoE is gated by their ultimates but they bring much better CC.


shyvana gets so much free stats from her passive+dragon form. she also has ridiculous aoe damage without building any damage. she is also one of the best split pushers in the game.

mundo has ridiciulous sustain. his ult CD is retardedly low as well. he is so hard to kill and becomes harder to kill as the game goes on. one of the beefiest tanks out there. perma slow on Q is pretty good too. same with anti-CC W.

the main things I can think of that nasus and renekton fall behind in is
renekton - falls off late game compared to shyv/mundo
nasus- really shitty early game


It's also much much harder to kite mundo and shy. Nasus has wither, sure, but with the range nerf it doesn't really compare to shy's free speed running into everyone (add in botrk too, which it's much harder to justify nasus or reneckton to buy) or mundo's built in tenacity in addition to a massive speed boost.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
January 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#371
Shook looks like junky version of Tabzz.
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
January 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#372
On January 15 2014 04:27 Redox wrote:
Btw at the people that say Leblanc is bad, wait for Froggen to play her (I hope he does).


I don't think people are saying that Leblanc is bad, but picking her blind and not as a counter is bad.
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 14 2014 19:32 GMT
#373
On January 15 2014 04:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Shook's braces are op.

He really needs them though. Poor guy.
Off-season = best season
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#374
NASL sound guy seems present too
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#375
Stop being so mean you angry nerds.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#376
On January 15 2014 04:32 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Shook's braces are op.

He really needs them though. Poor guy.


Let's hope, his teeth will get better.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 14 2014 19:34 GMT
#377
c'mon quickshot. in the toplane meta right now, all you have to be able to play is rengar, mundo, shyvana, and renekton
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 14 2014 19:34 GMT
#378
NASL video guy as well
Moderator
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
January 14 2014 19:35 GMT
#379
Is everybody ready to watch [A] get crushed?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 14 2014 19:35 GMT
#380
On January 15 2014 04:34 bokchoi wrote:
c'mon quickshot. in the toplane meta right now, all you have to be able to play is rengar, mundo, shyvana, and renekton

Yeah its perfect for Wickd atm. As long as it stays like this, you will hardly find someone better in EU. Should it change to mages again tho, he is in trouble.
Off-season = best season
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