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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 30 2013 13:53 GMT
#161
overall, despite the shit kespa gets, i still think kespa is superior to any realistic alterantive, and that will remain true for the foreseeable future

so far, it seems kespa in league isnt really that controversial compared to sc, thought that might be a reseult of league being newer and less time for kespa to fuck up and show stupid shit.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 13:59:56
September 30 2013 13:58 GMT
#162
To me, at least so far, it looks like KeSPA and OGN have quite an easy time cooperating with Riot, at least in comparison to all the good ol' Blizzard vs KeSPA drama that we had. Maybe their close cooperation will prevent some bad stuff.

It will be really interesting to see the further development of the scene after Worlds, with all that LoL Proleague and new KeSPA teams talk that has been floating around.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22094 Posts
September 30 2013 13:59 GMT
#163
On September 30 2013 22:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
overall, despite the shit kespa gets, i still think kespa is superior to any realistic alterantive, and that will remain true for the foreseeable future

so far, it seems kespa in league isnt really that controversial compared to sc, thought that might be a reseult of league being newer and less time for kespa to fuck up and show stupid shit.

I wonder also how much influence Riot will have with limiting kespa controversy. Unlike Blizzard they are taking a far more active stance and I wouldn't be surprised if they stepped in if actual controversies came to light.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 30 2013 14:04 GMT
#164
i've criticised kespa's handling of player trading and whatnot in the past but it's also undeniable that at the in-game competition level they run their teams very well. the training and coaching are world class.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2013 14:05 GMT
#165
On September 30 2013 16:46 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 16:22 KissBlade wrote:
Fuuucckk been watching Royal's interview and maaaann I'm so conflicted. SKT fan since Boxer but Royal's interviews make them so likable nooooooooooooooooooooo. =(

if it makes you feel better, chinese fans apparently dislike royal, and piglet is the cutest. So, root for SKT!

afaik, Chinese fans hate the team not, not necessarily the players.

About KeSPA, it has it's obvious shortcomings but it's better than nothing (like what the west has).
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nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
September 30 2013 16:18 GMT
#166
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2013 16:51 GMT
#167
On October 01 2013 01:18 nikuniku wrote:
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.

Don't whitezz and uzi have bad reputation, I remember hearing something like everyone on OMG never wants to play with whitezz again.
Glorious SEA doto
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 17:09:51
September 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#168
On October 01 2013 01:18 nikuniku wrote:
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.


the hate started before the qualifiers

as mentioned whitezz and uzi dont have the best reputation, whitezz from some bad experiences with people on old teams, and they're both solo q flamers/ragers lol, same with lucky, who was also on the very bm and infamous EHOME squad (pdd was also on that team, as well as the legendary EHOME MAX who afked during a tourney game lol)

godlike afaik is very reserved and doesnt have much of a reputation for anything, tabe is moe and everyone loves him
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 30 2013 17:11 GMT
#169
On October 01 2013 02:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 01:18 nikuniku wrote:
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.


the hate started before the qualifiers

as mentioned whitezz and uzi dont have the best reputation, whitezz from some bad experiences with people on old teams, and they're both solo q flamers/ragers lol, same with lucky, who was also on the very bm and infamous EHOME squad (pdd was also on that team, as well as the legendary EHOME MAX who afked during a tourney game lol)

godlike afaik is very reserved and doesnt have much of a reputation for anything, tabe is moe and everyone loves him

Sir, EHOME Max afk'd on Saint cause he didn't give him blue buff LOL.

Wasn't a tourney game, but still pretty lol because that was at the height of Saint's career and he was like the top streamer at the time.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 30 2013 17:15 GMT
#170
On October 01 2013 02:11 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 02:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 01 2013 01:18 nikuniku wrote:
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.


the hate started before the qualifiers

as mentioned whitezz and uzi dont have the best reputation, whitezz from some bad experiences with people on old teams, and they're both solo q flamers/ragers lol, same with lucky, who was also on the very bm and infamous EHOME squad (pdd was also on that team, as well as the legendary EHOME MAX who afked during a tourney game lol)

godlike afaik is very reserved and doesnt have much of a reputation for anything, tabe is moe and everyone loves him

Sir, EHOME Max afk'd on Saint cause he didn't give him blue buff LOL.

Wasn't a tourney game, but still pretty lol because that was at the height of Saint's career and he was like the top streamer at the time.


he afked in a tourney game too i naddition to the saint thing iirc i dont remember the event ask yango or something
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 30 2013 17:23 GMT
#171
Man I just remembered that one IEM in Shanghai that they had back then with ehome and world elite, where CLG were in their prime.
IdrA won that tournament on the SC2 side of things - just made me realize how long ago that was already.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 30 2013 17:26 GMT
#172
On October 01 2013 02:23 UmberBane wrote:
Man I just remembered that one IEM in Shanghai that they had back then with ehome and world elite, where CLG were in their prime.
IdrA won that tournament on the SC2 side of things - just made me realize how long ago that was already.


Guangzhou not Shanghai.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#173
On October 01 2013 01:51 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 01:18 nikuniku wrote:
It's only the steadfast WE fans dislike Royal, because they feel that Royal intentionally lost the last LPL game to PE, therefore eliminating WE from S3 qualifiers by the tie-breaking rules.

Don't whitezz and uzi have bad reputation, I remember hearing something like everyone on OMG never wants to play with whitezz again.

whitez is a rager and uzi is pretty quick to blame as well. There was a post where whitez was raging on NA solo queue ladder and it wasn't just light raging either lol
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 17:41:05
September 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#174
On October 01 2013 02:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 02:23 UmberBane wrote:
Man I just remembered that one IEM in Shanghai that they had back then with ehome and world elite, where CLG were in their prime.
IdrA won that tournament on the SC2 side of things - just made me realize how long ago that was already.


Guangzhou not Shanghai.



Oh yeah of course, forgive my ignorace.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
September 30 2013 17:41 GMT
#175
not playing for bronze at one of the biggest esport tournaments ever is...
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 17:53:22
September 30 2013 17:52 GMT
#176
On September 30 2013 22:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On September 30 2013 19:09 1ntrigue wrote:
On September 30 2013 17:44 nikuniku wrote:
On September 30 2013 10:25 TheYango wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Our junglers are okay, Xmithie and Meteos pretty good (but junglers have always been fairly even among the regions).

I dispute that. China's junglers have always sucked.

What? Name another jungler that has performed significantly better than Lovelin during S3.

I think Lovelin is a manly man, but his success at Worlds has a lot to do with the rest of the regions being unfamiliar with OMG's jungle style. He is very good, however, but probably not quite as good as people seem to think he is.

ClearLove was a good jungler, but he's probably fallen off quite a bit now.


Lovelin is/was a feeder in LPL lol.

China Junglers blow. clearlove/Troll was awful too but he became much better in the period after S2. China jungle talent si definitely lacking.


Clearlove was almost 99% of the reason why WE lost to CLG.eu looking back. Guy was a feeder and got picked off almost about as often as Lucky. I'm so surprised Royal didn't just tank because Lucky fed real Clearlove style.

Luckily he has the likes of whitezz and tabe to die for his sins. WX and Misaya would have never tolerated such sinful behavior.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 30 2013 17:58 GMT
#177
Clearlove also had very little professional experience to date at that point. Go figure being on stage for hours on end when you don't have any experience is draining on you.

Lucky has no excuse because he's been in the pro scene forever.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#178
I feel like a big problem is that Chinese junglers sucking feed into eachother, it's hard to read jungle movements when they're all retarded. LoveLin got around it by mindlessly ganking at the expense of himself.
Glorious SEA doto
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 30 2013 18:23 GMT
#179
PE's Jing was pretty good, imo.

Had a banworthy Lee Sin.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 30 2013 18:28 GMT
#180
Jing and clearlove are pretty good, it was a massive blow to lose jing. I can't really comment on illusion as I was too busy screaming "WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY" at the kid/zztai swap during every iG game.
Glorious SEA doto
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