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niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
September 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#101
It is more related to the situation of Chinese esport organization.
Except WE, most Chinese teams/organization were supported by richmen because of their personal interests. So, they don't need to care their popularity. However, WE is the only lucrative organization in China. They need popularity to get sponsors and operate WE's shop. As a result, WE become the most popular LOL organization in China.(65% according to Allstar vote)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 03:40:31
September 26 2013 03:40 GMT
#102
Honestly ever since Royal got their "dream lineup" for me back, I've wished that one of the other Chinese E-sports sponsors/orgas would pick up Royal's lineup just so they can get away from the stigma associated with that team.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 26 2013 03:43 GMT
#103
SKT wins over Sword
Royal wins over Fnatic

Ez pz
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
September 26 2013 03:48 GMT
#104
On September 26 2013 12:40 TheYango wrote:
Honestly ever since Royal got their "dream lineup" for me back, I've wished that one of the other Chinese E-sports sponsors/orgas would pick up Royal's lineup just so they can get away from the stigma associated with that team.

What stigma is that? I don't follow LPL too much.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 03:56:28
September 26 2013 03:54 GMT
#105
Bit of history on 皇(Last took chinese a long time ago, so I could've misremembered parts of the story).

A long time ago it could either have either a royal or color meaning, 皇. It sounds exactly like 黃(yellow) in chinese.

Then along came a king, who, because of the dual royal and yellow(color) meaning, decreed that it was now a crime to associate 皇 with anything but royalty or gold, and forbade commoners to use it, so 黃 became the color.

I guess that's where the negativity towards the name comes from.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 03:58:50
September 26 2013 03:55 GMT
#106
On September 26 2013 11:52 Caphe wrote:
World Elite is called WE in English in China, so most Chinese doesn't even know what WE means, its just a name for them. While Royal Club is called "Huangzu" in China which means Royal family, thats where the hate comes from.

But tbh, even if Royal change their name, I doubt they can out-popular WE in China cos WE inherit alot of fans from WC3. WE.Sky was the first Chinese Warcraft WCG gold medalist. So WE will remain the most popular team in China unless Royal win this S3 and continue to perform well in Chinese LPL.

That's right.

WE's LoL team is also seen as the gentlemen of the Chinese LoL scene and they have a ton of fans, both male and female. Comparatively speaking, they are much more approachable and marketable than the other LoL teams although OMG can probably start challenging that if they actually win everything for a prolonged period (haven't check their recent interviews so not sure). If OMG won worlds, they'd instantly be the #2 or maybe even #1 most popular team in China. Royal, not so much. While Tabe's English makes him endearing, I'd assume his HK accent in mandarin makes him quite unapproachable in the Chinese scene.

China loves winners but only those that makes themselves feel like winners.

Edit: On another note, I wish the LPL allowed more promotion/relegation and that the grassroots scene was better organised because there is a lot of talent in China that goes wasted because of the server segregation, geographic divide and unlikelihood of breaking out.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 04:07:52
September 26 2013 04:02 GMT
#107
I hope Royal work on their warding for their game with Fnatic, or they might go down a similar path as cloud 9 did in their games. It was very difficult to watch cloud 9 walk into brushes they should have warded, and get picked off multiple times. Their lack of warding was such a huge factor in the Fnatic win.

Although I'd rate Royal club above Cloud 9, I feel they had a serious lack of vision control in the games we saw. Of course, this could have just as easily been a style they prepared for OMG. Their overall teamwork, and team fighting seems much better than Fnatic. Even though they have such a huge reliance on Uzi, it seems difficult to stop considering Tabe's leadership at bottom and in fights. Even then, teams that they will face from now on will definitely punish their mistakes with vision control. I feel they were too reliant on having Tabe ward everything in the two games against OMG.

Maybe Yango or someone who knows more about the Chinese scene can tell me if this was particular strategy they chose. Does anyone know more here? That is to say, I saw OMG warding to be better than Royal's, and was confused by the amount of responsibility of warding put on Tabe.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 04:12:34
September 26 2013 04:11 GMT
#108
On September 26 2013 12:40 TheYango wrote:
Honestly ever since Royal got their "dream lineup" for me back, I've wished that one of the other Chinese E-sports sponsors/orgas would pick up Royal's lineup just so they can get away from the stigma associated with that team.

Here's to hoping that Heart Get Together Picks up Royal as their league team to add royal to the storied franchise. ^_^ lol.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 05:14:30
September 26 2013 05:12 GMT
#109
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2013 05:13 GMT
#110
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world


Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss

Yango, use your powers. now.
liftlift > tsm
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 26 2013 05:15 GMT
#111
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world


Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss

lolwtf

also im beginning to hate this awkward ass timing for events. 7pm on friday and then 12pm on saturday.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 26 2013 05:17 GMT
#112
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss


Best jokes EU.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 26 2013 05:18 GMT
#113
On September 26 2013 14:15 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world


Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss

lolwtf

also im beginning to hate this awkward ass timing for events. 7pm on friday and then 12pm on saturday.

Yup, will be able to catch the Korean match but not the more interesting one =/
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 26 2013 05:19 GMT
#114
On September 26 2013 14:17 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss


Best jokes EU.


Lucky your USA 3rd world level jokes got kicked the fuck out of the tournament, for everyone's sake

User was warned for this post
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2013 05:22 GMT
#115
On September 26 2013 14:19 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:17 red_ wrote:
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss


Best jokes EU.


Lucky your USA 3rd world level jokes got kicked the fuck out of the tournament, for everyone's sake

except red is like yango, and only cares about cn.
liftlift > tsm
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 26 2013 06:00 GMT
#116
On September 26 2013 14:17 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss


Best jokes EU.


This is why Yango gets credit, and I do not cos too lazy to explain. Yango pls.

That being said Yellowstar has had a very impressive showing so far, and does not get enough credit. Why, he be probably Fnatic's true carry. It's no coincidence he made it in WC 3 times. He understands the game.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 07:24:40
September 26 2013 07:17 GMT
#117
On September 26 2013 14:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:19 ManBaker wrote:
On September 26 2013 14:17 red_ wrote:
On September 26 2013 14:12 ManBaker wrote:
Why does everyone want to see Uzi vs Faker

xPeke has performed equally if not better than Faker this tournament so far but everyone's circlejerking just about Faker

Yellowstar is the only support that didn't underperform in WC and is by far the best one, 4/4 leona wins, godly initiates, never lose lane

Soaz played any champion from tank to AP carry to assassin in such a versatility no other toplaner has in the world

I'd have wanted Fnatic vs Royal in the finals but unfortunately the brackets suck and the 2 korean teams will play each other for a free ticket to the finals

Easy 3-1 for Fnatic, with the occasional pick&bans throw loss


Best jokes EU.


Lucky your USA 3rd world level jokes got kicked the fuck out of the tournament, for everyone's sake

except red is like yango, and only cares about cn.


I mean, I am a 'fan' of the NA scene and wanted C9 to do well, but they did about as well as I expected, which is to say that they had a competitive series(except that game 3, ugh) against their opponent from group stage.

But ya, I'm not exactly going to get torn up at someone who is belligerent about the NA scene, especially in the manner he did it. I wasn't even calling Fnatic jokes, I was calling the post a joke =[.

On September 26 2013 15:00 cascades wrote:

This is why Yango gets credit, and I do not cos too lazy to explain. Yango pls.


Yango so patient.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 07:24:46
September 26 2013 07:24 GMT
#118
Oops double post, I suck at forum.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 26 2013 07:36 GMT
#119
I want fnatic to win but then i feel like royal's chances are better vs the koreans.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 26 2013 07:45 GMT
#120
That being said I'd love to see Faker vs Peke
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