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Two things as public notice: 1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] +Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis!
No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum. 2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future. I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat. Enjoy the games~ -Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120 |
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On September 24 2013 09:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
As funny as this blue side OP thing, I've seen little to imply that it has had a big impact on these games. Teams have just taken turns doing shitty drafts and they happen to be doing it on purple side. I don't think it's an issue of first pick either. Stuff like TF and Nunu have just been weird picks.
First pick vs second pick drafts very differently. I don't think it's coincidence that drafts from purple side are worse.
EDIT: In fact, part of the express purpose of changing the multi-phase ban system in DotA was to mitigate the first pick draft advantage (e.g. second pick in first pick phase gets first pick in the second pick phase).
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On September 24 2013 09:22 stuchiu wrote:
Analyst desk is a shame to the community. Talking about these mundane issues like drafting, laning, map control when they should be talking about how OP BLUE is.
chiustu plz
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On September 24 2013 09:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:22 stuchiu wrote:
Analyst desk is a shame to the community. Talking about these mundane issues like drafting, laning, map control when they should be talking about how OP BLUE is. Riot doesn't want to expose the secret!
at least they fixed the bug where purple side got as much XP for minions as blue did.
that'd almost have brought them on the same level.
The horror
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On September 24 2013 09:23 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:22 stuchiu wrote:
Analyst desk is a shame to the community. Talking about these mundane issues like drafting, laning, map control when they should be talking about how OP BLUE is. chiustu plz
Neo, you of all people know, blue side op'd. plz.
On September 24 2013 09:24 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:22 wei2coolman wrote:On September 24 2013 09:22 stuchiu wrote:
Analyst desk is a shame to the community. Talking about these mundane issues like drafting, laning, map control when they should be talking about how OP BLUE is. Riot doesn't want to expose the secret! at least they fixed the bug where purple side got as much XP for minions as blue did. that'd almost have brought them on the same level. The horror
i chuckled.
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I wonder how deep Nagne's champ pool is. He's only played Ahri so far, even in NLB he only played Ahri.
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This was fixed like 2 days after they realized it. It was fixed first on the tournament server. As much as people are having fun with the blue side op stuff, please don't spread old information around.
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On September 24 2013 09:23 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
As funny as this blue side OP thing, I've seen little to imply that it has had a big impact on these games. Teams have just taken turns doing shitty drafts and they happen to be doing it on purple side. I don't think it's an issue of first pick either. Stuff like TF and Nunu have just been weird picks. First pick vs second pick drafts very differently. I don't think it's coincidence that drafts from purple side are worse. EDIT: In fact, part of the express purpose of changing the multi-phase ban system in DotA was to mitigate the first pick draft advantage (e.g. second pick in first pick phase gets first pick in the second pick phase).
There's a reason every team picks blue side whenever they win the coin flip.
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On September 24 2013 09:24 ketchup wrote:This was fixed like 2 days after they realized it. It was fixed first on the tournament server. As much as people are having fun with the blue side op stuff, please don't spread old information around.
Yeah, plz. blue side's op'd has to do with the hidden aura, not something as blatant as xp differences.
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Monte, you're normally so smart, but the fact that you're missing out on this blueside thing. I've lost faith...
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On September 24 2013 09:25 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:23 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2013 09:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
As funny as this blue side OP thing, I've seen little to imply that it has had a big impact on these games. Teams have just taken turns doing shitty drafts and they happen to be doing it on purple side. I don't think it's an issue of first pick either. Stuff like TF and Nunu have just been weird picks. First pick vs second pick drafts very differently. I don't think it's coincidence that drafts from purple side are worse. EDIT: In fact, part of the express purpose of changing the multi-phase ban system in DotA was to mitigate the first pick draft advantage (e.g. second pick in first pick phase gets first pick in the second pick phase). There's a reason every team picks blue side whenever they win the coin flip.
Well if there was a disconnect between FP and Side then maybe there would be a choice at the coin flip but there isn't so it's silly that coin flip isn't just who is blue lol(I guess it is anyway)
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Calm teams in player cams >> Screaming teams. All that matters.
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On September 24 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Monte, you're normally so smart, but the fact that you're missing out on this blueside thing. I've lost faith...
riot knows hidden blue aura op and is paying monte to keep quiet like how they payed phreak to talk up tsm
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On September 24 2013 09:26 ketchup wrote:
Calm teams in player cams >> Screaming teams. All that matters.
I busted out laughing when i heard the "oh my god" on that playback for Najin's comms.
On September 24 2013 09:27 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Monte, you're normally so smart, but the fact that you're missing out on this blueside thing. I've lost faith... riot knows hidden blue aura op and is paying monte to keep quiet like how they payed phreak to talk up tsm
holy shit, it makes so much sense.
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Why does the OP say NJBS is 2-0 when I'm seeing 1-1 on my screen
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Nagne was one of the best Junglers in Korean solo queue. However with the poor performance of Ssong, he switched positions mid. His best champ is zed
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On September 24 2013 09:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:26 ketchup wrote:
Calm teams in player cams >> Screaming teams. All that matters. I busted out laughing when i heard the "oh my god" on that playback for Najin's comms. Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:27 Vonthin wrote:On September 24 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Monte, you're normally so smart, but the fact that you're missing out on this blueside thing. I've lost faith... riot knows hidden blue aura op and is paying monte to keep quiet like how they payed phreak to talk up tsm holy shit, it makes so much sense.
It's very much a common saying in Korea too 
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I think I have this intermission song burned into my brain.
I wish they at least got a different song between rounds. Also that sound of the game thing is nice. I wish they did it more.
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On September 24 2013 09:26 ketchup wrote:
Calm teams in player cams >> Screaming teams. All that matters.
And when they did 'shout' they all called the same thing, that's wild coordination.
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On September 24 2013 09:26 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:25 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 24 2013 09:23 TheYango wrote:On September 24 2013 09:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
As funny as this blue side OP thing, I've seen little to imply that it has had a big impact on these games. Teams have just taken turns doing shitty drafts and they happen to be doing it on purple side. I don't think it's an issue of first pick either. Stuff like TF and Nunu have just been weird picks. First pick vs second pick drafts very differently. I don't think it's coincidence that drafts from purple side are worse. EDIT: In fact, part of the express purpose of changing the multi-phase ban system in DotA was to mitigate the first pick draft advantage (e.g. second pick in first pick phase gets first pick in the second pick phase). There's a reason every team picks blue side whenever they win the coin flip. Well if there was a disconnect between FP and Side then maybe there would be a choice at the coin flip but there isn't so it's silly that coin flip isn't just who is blue lol(I guess it is anyway)
The logical solution is to let 1 team choose pick order and the other choose map side, but despite a whole season of blue/purple imbalance being a potential issue, Riot still has not implemented anything in client to make this possible.
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On September 24 2013 09:28 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:27 wei2coolman wrote:On September 24 2013 09:26 ketchup wrote:
Calm teams in player cams >> Screaming teams. All that matters. I busted out laughing when i heard the "oh my god" on that playback for Najin's comms. On September 24 2013 09:27 Vonthin wrote:On September 24 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Monte, you're normally so smart, but the fact that you're missing out on this blueside thing. I've lost faith... riot knows hidden blue aura op and is paying monte to keep quiet like how they payed phreak to talk up tsm holy shit, it makes so much sense. It's very much a common saying in Korea too
It was just so damn dramatic. I wonder if it was on the 5 man ori shockwave?
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