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Two things as public notice:
1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] +
Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis!
No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum.


2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future.

I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat.
Enjoy the games~

-Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 17:10:48
September 23 2013 17:06 GMT
#181
On September 24 2013 02:04 Sermokala wrote:
They couldn't deal with vlad wtf?

They first-banned Vlad every game of the finals, and their express reason for doing so was being unable to beat it in scrims.

EDIT: It was Dyrus that said they won whenever they got Vlad in scrims, trying to find the quote.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 17:07:30
September 23 2013 17:06 GMT
#182
On September 24 2013 02:04 Sermokala wrote:
They couldn't deal with vlad wtf?

They did the exact same vlad > ahri > J4 bans in all three matches against TSM, kinda makes you wonder.
They gave TSM double Z out of fear of those three.
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 23 2013 17:06 GMT
#183
Maybe it was because of Balls champion pool (Shen, Kennen, Elise, Rumble) all matchups Vlad has an easy time with and can get big.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 23 2013 17:09 GMT
#184
It's also probably because Meteos doesn't gank the way Lovelin did to keep Dyrus down. Remember that Gogoing played Shen in that game.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 23 2013 17:10 GMT
#185
On September 24 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
It's also probably because Meteos doesn't gank the way Lovelin did to keep Dyrus down. Remember that Gogoing played Shen in that game.

On a note of lovelin to meteos I'll be a bit sad if we don't get to see meteos against one of these hyper aggressive Asian junglers like lovelin, bengi or watch if only to see how it would go.
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 23 2013 17:14 GMT
#186
On September 24 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
It's also probably because Meteos doesn't gank the way Lovelin did to keep Dyrus down. Remember that Gogoing played Shen in that game.


that's true. I'm still amazed by lovelin's zero fucks strategy with doran's blade start voli/yorick. That bear will prob give tsm nightmares for a few days.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 23 2013 17:32 GMT
#187
yango why dont you make a fantasy

yango pls
TranslatorBaa!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 23 2013 17:46 GMT
#188
I have work training during C9 vs. Fnatic. I'm so sad righat now guys.

As for people saying C9 will balk at the pressure of LAN, they' 3-0'd the "experienced" TSM at PAX easily. The games were not close in any way. If they lose it will be because of letting Peke walk all over them with a split push Kass or something. If the draft phase is strong C9 will win, they prepare better than all of the other NA teams. I expect a 2-1 C9 win.
In Inca we trust
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 23 2013 17:48 GMT
#189
c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with

c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS
TranslatorBaa!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 23 2013 17:50 GMT
#190
On September 24 2013 02:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with

c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS


I have no doubt they've scrimmed against those types of drafts.

If Fnatic is smart they will ban or steal Zyra, Rumble, and Varus/Ashe. Force C9's bot lane to carry more and place more initiation/less damage on their mid/top laners.
In Inca we trust
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
September 23 2013 18:07 GMT
#191
Less than an hour away! Hype hype hype hype hype.
+ Show Spoiler +
Can't watch because of word, sad day T_T
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 23 2013 18:07 GMT
#192
Why god almighty creator of heaven on earth must I have a two hour class when this game starts? Rawr!!!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 23 2013 18:09 GMT
#193
On September 24 2013 02:50 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 02:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with

c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS


I have no doubt they've scrimmed against those types of drafts.

If Fnatic is smart they will ban or steal Zyra, Rumble, and Varus/Ashe. Force C9's bot lane to carry more and place more initiation/less damage on their mid/top laners.


tbh game so far have shown rumble is hardly worth banning or stealing...i'd be very surprised if fnatic chose rumble as a prime target during their drafting
TranslatorBaa!
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
September 23 2013 18:12 GMT
#194
Fnatic seem to be the clear favorites here. Arguments:

1. Older team, with international experience + experience deriving from playing in a creative meta enviroment as opposed to highly conservative US.
2. Warmed up team, accustomed to enviroment, pc's, settings.
3. Momentum, confidence, current form.

However, C9 are not hopeless as they possess important strengths.

1. Cohesive, beleiver team who follows calls.
2. High individual skill.
3. Great and deep analytical exploration and mindset (Lemonation), making up for lack of experience.

Relative positive influence chart: (fnatic-C9)
toplane: 55%-45%
Jungle: 40%-60%
Midlane: 55%-45%
Botlane: 60%-40%

Overall i would give a 60-65% chance of fnatic winning the series.
However, i am aware of at least 3 exploitable vulnerabilities in the fnatic team which might be able to turn the tides.
I'm not sure if Lemonation's microscope spotted them but i could reveal them for the sake of an even fight, even tho i root for EU. hue.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 23 2013 18:12 GMT
#195
eh. Tbh, I think Fnatic will beat C9 cuz I think C9's overhyped plus Fnatic's on a hot streak. I expect Gambit to beat Sword, as well given Sword's recent play. Still, if C9 or Sword really prep we could see things go the other way, but I doubt it
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
September 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#196
On September 24 2013 02:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with

c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS


Agreed with the point in general, though Hai has played Fizz it wasn't exactly the most awe inspiring performance I've ever seen. One can hope he's adjusted his champion pool to adjust to the new patch or I could see c9 having to spend 3 bans against xPeke (Ahri, Fizz, Kassadin). I assume C9 will get blue twice which will make fnatic ban Zed, but that is probably the only 'needed' respect ban against C9.

I'm interested, given both teams propensity to run Ashe/Zyra if either team will try to ban/pick that strategy away from the other team. fnatic may be happy to get Puszu Corki, and C9 have shown they have backups to the Ashe/Zyra lane but even they would admit that it is their best bot lane combo.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
September 23 2013 18:16 GMT
#197
On September 24 2013 03:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
eh. Tbh, I think Fnatic will beat C9 cuz I think C9's overhyped plus Fnatic's on a hot streak. I expect Gambit to beat Sword, as well given Sword's recent play. Still, if C9 or Sword really prep we could see things go the other way, but I doubt it

Ehhh
I think swords gonna win
Gambits pretty solid but sword (as well as the other bye teams) has had this past week to watch all the other teams play, scrim, and not have to stress or be tired from group matches. They also brought the other nj team to help with scrims iirc so I think they should be good to go
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
September 23 2013 18:24 GMT
#198
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
September 23 2013 18:25 GMT
#199
On September 24 2013 03:24 ExoFun wrote:
[image loading]


I upvoted this despite being a C9 fan T__T
Jaedong :3
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 23 2013 18:25 GMT
#200
If C9 wins we should have the whole sub play the US National Anthem for the rest of the day.

Fnatic can get Abba or something idk what Euros listen to.
It's your boy Guzma!
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