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Two things as public notice: 1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] + Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis! No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum. 2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future. I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat. Enjoy the games~ -Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120 | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:04 Sermokala wrote: They couldn't deal with vlad wtf? They first-banned Vlad every game of the finals, and their express reason for doing so was being unable to beat it in scrims. EDIT: It was Dyrus that said they won whenever they got Vlad in scrims, trying to find the quote. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:04 Sermokala wrote: They couldn't deal with vlad wtf? They did the exact same vlad > ahri > J4 bans in all three matches against TSM, kinda makes you wonder. They gave TSM double Z out of fear of those three. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote: It's also probably because Meteos doesn't gank the way Lovelin did to keep Dyrus down. Remember that Gogoing played Shen in that game. On a note of lovelin to meteos I'll be a bit sad if we don't get to see meteos against one of these hyper aggressive Asian junglers like lovelin, bengi or watch if only to see how it would go. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote: It's also probably because Meteos doesn't gank the way Lovelin did to keep Dyrus down. Remember that Gogoing played Shen in that game. that's true. I'm still amazed by lovelin's zero fucks strategy with doran's blade start voli/yorick. That bear will prob give tsm nightmares for a few days. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
yango pls | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
As for people saying C9 will balk at the pressure of LAN, they' 3-0'd the "experienced" TSM at PAX easily. The games were not close in any way. If they lose it will be because of letting Peke walk all over them with a split push Kass or something. If the draft phase is strong C9 will win, they prepare better than all of the other NA teams. I expect a 2-1 C9 win. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS I have no doubt they've scrimmed against those types of drafts. If Fnatic is smart they will ban or steal Zyra, Rumble, and Varus/Ashe. Force C9's bot lane to carry more and place more initiation/less damage on their mid/top laners. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Can't watch because of word, sad day T_T | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:50 las91 wrote: I have no doubt they've scrimmed against those types of drafts. If Fnatic is smart they will ban or steal Zyra, Rumble, and Varus/Ashe. Force C9's bot lane to carry more and place more initiation/less damage on their mid/top laners. tbh game so far have shown rumble is hardly worth banning or stealing...i'd be very surprised if fnatic chose rumble as a prime target during their drafting | ||
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sataNik[pG]
Greece722 Posts
1. Older team, with international experience + experience deriving from playing in a creative meta enviroment as opposed to highly conservative US. 2. Warmed up team, accustomed to enviroment, pc's, settings. 3. Momentum, confidence, current form. However, C9 are not hopeless as they possess important strengths. 1. Cohesive, beleiver team who follows calls. 2. High individual skill. 3. Great and deep analytical exploration and mindset (Lemonation), making up for lack of experience. Relative positive influence chart: (fnatic-C9) toplane: 55%-45% Jungle: 40%-60% Midlane: 55%-45% Botlane: 60%-40% Overall i would give a 60-65% chance of fnatic winning the series. However, i am aware of at least 3 exploitable vulnerabilities in the fnatic team which might be able to turn the tides. I'm not sure if Lemonation's microscope spotted them but i could reveal them for the sake of an even fight, even tho i root for EU. hue. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On September 24 2013 02:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: c9 has to draft against ahri and fizz, neither of which they have really played, and also corki is a new factor that has come into prominence for worlds, which c9 hasnt had experience with c9's "good drafting" might not be nearly as effective in this championship than it was during NA LCS Agreed with the point in general, though Hai has played Fizz it wasn't exactly the most awe inspiring performance I've ever seen. One can hope he's adjusted his champion pool to adjust to the new patch or I could see c9 having to spend 3 bans against xPeke (Ahri, Fizz, Kassadin). I assume C9 will get blue twice which will make fnatic ban Zed, but that is probably the only 'needed' respect ban against C9. I'm interested, given both teams propensity to run Ashe/Zyra if either team will try to ban/pick that strategy away from the other team. fnatic may be happy to get Puszu Corki, and C9 have shown they have backups to the Ashe/Zyra lane but even they would admit that it is their best bot lane combo. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:12 Ryuu314 wrote: eh. Tbh, I think Fnatic will beat C9 cuz I think C9's overhyped plus Fnatic's on a hot streak. I expect Gambit to beat Sword, as well given Sword's recent play. Still, if C9 or Sword really prep we could see things go the other way, but I doubt it Ehhh I think swords gonna win Gambits pretty solid but sword (as well as the other bye teams) has had this past week to watch all the other teams play, scrim, and not have to stress or be tired from group matches. They also brought the other nj team to help with scrims iirc so I think they should be good to go | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/4ys7a.png) | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:24 ExoFun wrote: I upvoted this despite being a C9 fan T__T | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Fnatic can get Abba or something idk what Euros listen to. | ||
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