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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 22 2013 08:45 GMT
#17141
On September 22 2013 17:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:40 oneofthem wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:33 wei2coolman wrote:
I said it would be conceivable that the royal vs ogn storyline never make it out of ro8 if they didn't get matched up right away. Also lets be honest. Almost no one in the west watches lpl, the hype for the rematch going to be lost. The reason I asked if royal had a good chance against skt, cuz if they were matched up then omg vs royal hype train they've been building up on the analyst desk is gone.


Edit:inb4 conspiracy, I'm just saying storylines pretty good for these quarterfinal matches. And work well for what riot was trying to achieve in the hinted storylines throughout the past week

i honestly don't think the royal vs omg rivalry storyline is all that big. the main attraction is in the teams themselves, showcasing their play and style to the west. their rivalry is pretty big in china, but western fans just see 2 chinese teams.

Have you been watching the broadcast? They fucking mention it a million times how omg is considered the best but then lost to royal. It was obvious riot was setting up as many possible storylines for quarter finals. They also kept mentioning 'how good is najin?' Or 'who da fuq is gama bears?' Etc. Etc.

yea, but honestly, regardless of how many times they say it, audience won't care as much as they would if royal was going up against a team like c9.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 22 2013 08:47 GMT
#17142
On September 22 2013 17:45 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:40 oneofthem wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:33 wei2coolman wrote:
I said it would be conceivable that the royal vs ogn storyline never make it out of ro8 if they didn't get matched up right away. Also lets be honest. Almost no one in the west watches lpl, the hype for the rematch going to be lost. The reason I asked if royal had a good chance against skt, cuz if they were matched up then omg vs royal hype train they've been building up on the analyst desk is gone.


Edit:inb4 conspiracy, I'm just saying storylines pretty good for these quarterfinal matches. And work well for what riot was trying to achieve in the hinted storylines throughout the past week

i honestly don't think the royal vs omg rivalry storyline is all that big. the main attraction is in the teams themselves, showcasing their play and style to the west. their rivalry is pretty big in china, but western fans just see 2 chinese teams.

Have you been watching the broadcast? They fucking mention it a million times how omg is considered the best but then lost to royal. It was obvious riot was setting up as many possible storylines for quarter finals. They also kept mentioning 'how good is najin?' Or 'who da fuq is gama bears?' Etc. Etc.

yea, but honestly, regardless of how many times they say it, audience won't care as much as they would if royal was going up against a team like c9.

TSM vs royal would be even more hype than C9 even though TSM isn't in the event anymore. NA audience is hopeless.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 08:48:14
September 22 2013 08:47 GMT
#17143
Nice quarterfinals, wouldn't you agree? Lower half of the bracket has the #1 Teams from China/EU(W)/NA and the #2 from China. Upper half has #1 from Korea. Gama bears as the dark horse. If you could replace NJBS with KTB and swap one Chinese with one Korean team it would be perfect. Gambit or TSM, well I think they are on pretty much the same skill level.

So, gonna be an awesome QF for sure. And Gambit vs NJBS is probably much more interesting than Gambit vs KTB, I'm really looking forward to this one. fnatic - C9. OMG - RC. nice nice nice
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 08:51:56
September 22 2013 08:50 GMT
#17144
On September 22 2013 17:45 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:40 oneofthem wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:33 wei2coolman wrote:
I said it would be conceivable that the royal vs ogn storyline never make it out of ro8 if they didn't get matched up right away. Also lets be honest. Almost no one in the west watches lpl, the hype for the rematch going to be lost. The reason I asked if royal had a good chance against skt, cuz if they were matched up then omg vs royal hype train they've been building up on the analyst desk is gone.


Edit:inb4 conspiracy, I'm just saying storylines pretty good for these quarterfinal matches. And work well for what riot was trying to achieve in the hinted storylines throughout the past week

i honestly don't think the royal vs omg rivalry storyline is all that big. the main attraction is in the teams themselves, showcasing their play and style to the west. their rivalry is pretty big in china, but western fans just see 2 chinese teams.

Have you been watching the broadcast? They fucking mention it a million times how omg is considered the best but then lost to royal. It was obvious riot was setting up as many possible storylines for quarter finals. They also kept mentioning 'how good is najin?' Or 'who da fuq is gama bears?' Etc. Etc.

yea, but honestly, regardless of how many times they say it, audience won't care as much as they would if royal was going up against a team like c9.

I'd argue more hype for c9 vs fnatic + royal vs omg. Than c9 vs royal + omg vs other seeded team


Also considering the hype lovelin has brought, eyes on omg no matter what. And good ol' na vs eu too good, imo.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 22 2013 08:51 GMT
#17145
rigged as fuck
TranslatorBaa!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 22 2013 08:53 GMT
#17146
well yea, because na vs eu is so big. but i was just picking an example to say that royal getting western exposure against some kind of performance standard the western audience can judge against is important. this is especially true if OMG rolls over them.

if another NA team made it to the quarters then that would have worked much better for riot
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 22 2013 08:55 GMT
#17147
OH what the fuck I just realized TSM lost to gg.eu

I skipped every mineski and gg.eu game for the past few days since I thought they were freewins but they actually won a game
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 22 2013 08:55 GMT
#17148
dem North American representatives finishing 11/12th edging out the forces of Mineski and GG.eu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 22 2013 08:55 GMT
#17149
On September 22 2013 17:50 wei2coolman wrote:
I'd argue more hype for c9 vs fnatic + royal vs omg. Than c9 vs royal + omg vs other seeded team


Also considering the hype lovelin has brought, eyes on omg no matter what. And good ol' na vs eu too good, imo.

Essentially the argument is that its better to have every match be hyped above average than having regionally hyped matches. China/Kor doesn't care too much about c9 vs Fnatic but na EU do a ton. But everyone would want to see Kor vs C9 or Fnatic.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 09:00:44
September 22 2013 08:57 GMT
#17150
On September 22 2013 17:53 oneofthem wrote:
well yea, because na vs eu is so big. but i was just picking an example to say that royal getting western exposure against some kind of performance standard the western audience can judge against is important. this is especially true if OMG rolls over them.

if another NA team made it to the quarters then that would have worked much better for riot

Why throwbargains? Why?


Possible format for 12 teams.
With 12 teams, would have just create 3 groups of 4. Top of each group moves on. 2nd of each group fight it out for 4th slot. Then regular draws/brackets.
On September 22 2013 17:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:50 wei2coolman wrote:
I'd argue more hype for c9 vs fnatic + royal vs omg. Than c9 vs royal + omg vs other seeded team


Also considering the hype lovelin has brought, eyes on omg no matter what. And good ol' na vs eu too good, imo.

Essentially the argument is that its better to have every match be hyped above average than having regionally hyped matches. China/Kor doesn't care too much about c9 vs Fnatic but na EU do a ton. But everyone would want to see Kor vs C9 or Fnatic.

Korea vs fnatic already played out. Though mostly dade storyline and less fnatic. NA vs EU is such a stupidly hyped storyline that is too good not to have, and for it to happen in quarterfinals is perfect, cuz lets face it, aside from c9 matching up with gambit/bears and fnatic in same bracket vs the opposite, the chances of na vs eu not happening is HUGE. RIOT got lucky with these draws
liftlift > tsm
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
September 22 2013 08:57 GMT
#17151
On September 22 2013 17:53 oneofthem wrote:
well yea, because na vs eu is so big. but i was just picking an example to say that royal getting western exposure against some kind of performance standard the western audience can judge against is important. this is especially true if OMG rolls over them.

if another NA team made it to the quarters then that would have worked much better for riot

yea but we all knew that was never gonna happen, which is why riot thought one step ahead and gave out byes for each region
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 22 2013 08:59 GMT
#17152
On September 22 2013 17:55 Dodgin wrote:
OH what the fuck I just realized TSM lost to gg.eu

I skipped every mineski and gg.eu game for the past few days since I thought they were freewins but they actually won a game


And it only took a team to troll pick and swap roles and trololol while playing in order to do it.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 22 2013 09:01 GMT
#17153
On September 22 2013 17:59 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:55 Dodgin wrote:
OH what the fuck I just realized TSM lost to gg.eu

I skipped every mineski and gg.eu game for the past few days since I thought they were freewins but they actually won a game


And it only took a team to troll pick and swap roles and trololol while playing in order to do it.


wait TSM did that? weren't they playing for $15,000?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2013 09:02 GMT
#17154
On September 22 2013 17:59 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:55 Dodgin wrote:
OH what the fuck I just realized TSM lost to gg.eu

I skipped every mineski and gg.eu game for the past few days since I thought they were freewins but they actually won a game


And it only took a team to troll pick and swap roles and trololol while playing in order to do it.

Omg so good, make tsm lose 3 times. I'm pretty sure had omg not trolled vs ld, tsm would have played standard against gg.eu.
liftlift > tsm
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 22 2013 09:03 GMT
#17155
On September 22 2013 18:01 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:59 Disengaged wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:55 Dodgin wrote:
OH what the fuck I just realized TSM lost to gg.eu

I skipped every mineski and gg.eu game for the past few days since I thought they were freewins but they actually won a game


And it only took a team to troll pick and swap roles and trololol while playing in order to do it.


wait TSM did that? weren't they playing for $15,000?


Indeed lol

napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
September 22 2013 09:07 GMT
#17156
Why C9 vs Fnatic? It would have been nice to have those against China/KR.

Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
September 22 2013 09:12 GMT
#17157


phreak got shut down so badly LOL

meanwhile in korea
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JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
September 22 2013 09:26 GMT
#17158
I'm so sad to see RYL / OMG matched up.

Faker > Gama
Najin > Gambit
C9 > Fnatic
Royal > OMG

The #1 seeds aside from God have too much time to practice. They only needed to guess like 4-5 teams to prep for. Plus, they've seen a lot of picks from the 8 games alone from the group stage teams. Meanwhile, the group stage teams have no idea what is in store for them.
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
September 22 2013 09:37 GMT
#17159
Guys, I was only able to catch some games on the first day, and some today. I already asked for game recommendation and I'm watching OMG vs LD, today's match, any other great games I should watch? :D
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 22 2013 09:40 GMT
#17160
On September 22 2013 18:37 Ziken wrote:
Guys, I was only able to catch some games on the first day, and some today. I already asked for game recommendation and I'm watching OMG vs LD, today's match, any other great games I should watch? :D

Vulcun vs gambit
liftlift > tsm
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