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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#1201
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.

I trust that Monte isn't giving CLG bad advice. He doesn't strike me as that kind of person. I think it's more a case of him being in KR so not actually being with CLG to coach them in person (which makes a big difference). I also wonder how much CLG takes in. Idk. Not my job to speculate.

On August 31 2013 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:17 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Volband wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:13 UmberBane wrote:
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.

Chauster is there for what, 2 years now? More? You can't train someone who is T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Pick a random challenger support and I garen-tee you he will outclass him. Not that it's a big feat or anything.

Chauster was pretty good when CLG was in KR and before be went to the jungle. His Ali was scary.

Yeah, so Chauster reached his skill-cap 15 months ago whil everyone else around him improved leaps and bounds (well maybe not everyone, especially in the immediate vicinity ~~)

His play now is worse than it's ever been. Maybe it's "I used to be good" mentality. Maybe it's something else. I don't know and it's not my place to speculate. his play was bad.

More pressing is the fact that CLG decision making still has a lot of flaws which is disappointing.

I honestly thought the presence of nydushermain would pressure chauster into getting better (Look at how snoopeh improved bounds with the pressure of shacker on EG) but it seems to haven't I wouldn't be surprised if chausterlift just refused to allow nydushermain to actually be tried out as a main support and just have him because you gotta have subs or something.

Wait Nydushermain is sub for CLG?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#1202
On August 31 2013 06:24 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:19 Slaughter wrote:
Now its time for curse or die! Literally.... If they lose everyone dies


Don't worry. Nothing will keep Curse away from 4th place.


It's ok they're playing Dignitas, whichever team throws last is the only thing that matters in this series
In Inca we trust
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#1203
dat jatt prompter reading skills
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#1204
If you watch ogn everything that monte hates and whines about clg do 24/7.They either don't listen to him at all or it was just a publicity stunt and he doesn't actually do anything.It's ridiculous how much they have regressed.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 30 2013 21:26 GMT
#1205
God Westrice on Curse, those days still pain me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:26 GMT
#1206
On August 31 2013 06:24 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.

I trust that Monte isn't giving CLG bad advice. He doesn't strike me as that kind of person. I think it's more a case of him being in KR so not actually being with CLG to coach them in person (which makes a big difference). I also wonder how much CLG takes in. Idk. Not my job to speculate.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:17 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Volband wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:13 UmberBane wrote:
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.

Chauster is there for what, 2 years now? More? You can't train someone who is T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Pick a random challenger support and I garen-tee you he will outclass him. Not that it's a big feat or anything.

Chauster was pretty good when CLG was in KR and before be went to the jungle. His Ali was scary.

Yeah, so Chauster reached his skill-cap 15 months ago whil everyone else around him improved leaps and bounds (well maybe not everyone, especially in the immediate vicinity ~~)

His play now is worse than it's ever been. Maybe it's "I used to be good" mentality. Maybe it's something else. I don't know and it's not my place to speculate. his play was bad.

More pressing is the fact that CLG decision making still has a lot of flaws which is disappointing.

I honestly thought the presence of nydushermain would pressure chauster into getting better (Look at how snoopeh improved bounds with the pressure of shacker on EG) but it seems to haven't I wouldn't be surprised if chausterlift just refused to allow nydushermain to actually be tried out as a main support and just have him because you gotta have subs or something.

Wait Nydushermain is sub for CLG?

They took on nydushermain as CLG's sub at the start of August, it seems like it meant nothing though.
Glorious SEA doto
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 30 2013 21:26 GMT
#1207
On August 31 2013 06:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:14 las91 wrote:
"Better not contest any dragons or map objectives and just farm and hope for the best!"

Thank God I don't have to watch any more CLG anywhere close to the top of NA. Hopefully Vulcan/C9 win out and we get two teams that can actually compete at worlds.


Both of them will get crushed.


I think Vulcun/C9 could beat any non-Korean or Chinese team easily. Minus maybe Fnatic.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2013 21:26 GMT
#1208
On August 31 2013 06:24 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:22 Kiett wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:19 las91 wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Kiett wrote:
Seriously, what was the drag/baron counter for the series?

TSM: like 9 dragons 2 barons
CLG: absolutely nothing.

what the fuck


Apparently Monte didn't talk tot hem about actual game strategy and just told them compositions that didn't really change how they play from season 2 at all. Vayne/Malphite/Orianna is exactly the type of thing they'd do in S2 and they played like they were in S2 (farm city). Having a god awful support for a pro player miss every key crescendo doesn't help that either. They need to change things up but I honestly hope they're relegated so they can wake up a bit.

I'm sure he has, but they just keep forgetting or ignoring it. There have been random games in the later part of the season where it seemed like they were improving in terms of objectives and map pressure and won decisively, and I sincerely had hope for CLG. But after every good phase, they just regress and lose all the progress they made. I just don't get it.


How is that saying? Practice doesn't make perfect, only perfect pratice makes perfect. T_T

I think people think practise is all about grinding games. But that's like that time in high school where you just stared at your text book and hoped you'd pass the test. If it's not doing anything, it's a waste of time. You need to be effective if your time. Scrimming and playing games doesn't mean anything unless you actually gain something out of it.

CLG practises a lot. But I sometimes think their practise isn't actually effective in learning and improving at things.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#1209
On August 31 2013 06:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
God Westrice on Curse, those days still pain me.


Back in the day of Epik Westrice had godly plays. Crs Westrice was a failure yeah.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#1210
At this point Monte needs to do some damage control. He's getting so much expose and they doing so badly that it reflects negatively on him.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#1211
On August 31 2013 06:26 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:24 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.

I trust that Monte isn't giving CLG bad advice. He doesn't strike me as that kind of person. I think it's more a case of him being in KR so not actually being with CLG to coach them in person (which makes a big difference). I also wonder how much CLG takes in. Idk. Not my job to speculate.

On August 31 2013 06:22 Fusilero wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:20 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:17 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Volband wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:13 UmberBane wrote:
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.

Chauster is there for what, 2 years now? More? You can't train someone who is T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Pick a random challenger support and I garen-tee you he will outclass him. Not that it's a big feat or anything.

Chauster was pretty good when CLG was in KR and before be went to the jungle. His Ali was scary.

Yeah, so Chauster reached his skill-cap 15 months ago whil everyone else around him improved leaps and bounds (well maybe not everyone, especially in the immediate vicinity ~~)

His play now is worse than it's ever been. Maybe it's "I used to be good" mentality. Maybe it's something else. I don't know and it's not my place to speculate. his play was bad.

More pressing is the fact that CLG decision making still has a lot of flaws which is disappointing.

I honestly thought the presence of nydushermain would pressure chauster into getting better (Look at how snoopeh improved bounds with the pressure of shacker on EG) but it seems to haven't I wouldn't be surprised if chausterlift just refused to allow nydushermain to actually be tried out as a main support and just have him because you gotta have subs or something.

Wait Nydushermain is sub for CLG?

They took on nydushermain as CLG's sub at the start of August, it seems like it meant nothing though.

Oh I did not know that. They should be using Nydus on starting line up imo.

Is Nydus a TL'er?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
August 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#1212
On August 31 2013 06:26 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:14 las91 wrote:
"Better not contest any dragons or map objectives and just farm and hope for the best!"

Thank God I don't have to watch any more CLG anywhere close to the top of NA. Hopefully Vulcan/C9 win out and we get two teams that can actually compete at worlds.


Both of them will get crushed.


I think Vulcun/C9 could beat any non-Korean or Chinese team easily. Minus maybe Fnatic.

Easily? I think they'd have a shot, but I dunno about easily...
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#1213
I don't want Dig to advance. I don't care much about whether people think the NA scene is good or not, but letting a team with Kiwikid in their line-up advance to semis would be devastating.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1214
C9/Vul crushing na scene doesnt mean shit.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1215
"That was the worst game I've ever played in my life." - Saint.

Awwe. I feels for him.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1216
On August 31 2013 06:27 Numy wrote:
At this point Monte needs to do some damage control. He's getting so much expose and they doing so badly that it reflects negatively on him.

Seriously lol. I wonder if it wouldn't be better for him to cut his losses now and disassociate himself from them xD

Monte pls save clg.
Writer:o
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1217
On August 31 2013 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
God Westrice on Curse, those days still pain me.


Back in the day of Epik Westrice had godly plays. Crs Westrice was a failure yeah.

Yeah, apparently he's doing well on TBD right now, but as a Curse fan that was a rough era lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1218
On August 31 2013 06:28 skykh wrote:
C9/Vul crushing na scene doesnt mean shit.


TBH the EU scene has not impressed me any time I have watched them.

KR/China is going to take top 4 easily.
In Inca we trust
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#1219
On August 31 2013 06:27 Volband wrote:
I don't want Dig to advance. I don't care much about whether people think the NA scene is good or not, but letting a team with Kiwikid in their line-up advance to semis would be devastating.

Perhaps a little melodramatic there.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 30 2013 21:29 GMT
#1220
Voyboy is such a likeable person. You have to cheer for Curse just because of him.
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