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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#1181
On August 31 2013 06:19 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:16 ketchup wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:11 ketchup wrote:
gogo vote

Poll: Recommend TSM vs CLG Game 1?

Yes (20)
 
65%

No (9)
 
29%

If you have time for it (2)
 
6%

31 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TSM vs CLG Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time for it


Poll: Recommend TSM vs CLG Game 2?

Yes (17)
 
52%

No (10)
 
30%

If you have time for it (6)
 
18%

33 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TSM vs CLG Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time for it




Why so many no votes? The games were good and quite close both times!

We need an ocean to contain all this salt.

There's less salt on salty bet
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
August 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#1182
On August 31 2013 06:19 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:16 Disengaged wrote:
Since when is Xpecial the "Thresh King"?

They keep mixing it up with Xpecial and Edward lol


Think it's since that one game where he kept denying Jarvan ganks with his flays. At MLG maybe? Can't remember who they played.


Pretty sure it was Saintvicious' J4
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1183
On August 31 2013 06:19 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:16 Disengaged wrote:
Since when is Xpecial the "Thresh King"?

They keep mixing it up with Xpecial and Edward lol


Think it's since that one game where he kept denying Jarvan ganks with his flays. At MLG maybe? Can't remember who they played.


Plus, Edward's NA Thresh play hasn't really been very impressive.

He's more of the Mermaid King now.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1184
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.


he is not a coach
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 21:22:54
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1185
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.


A coach can only do so much, at some point the players have to be held accountable as well. Their in-game decision making and playmaking was pretty close to solo queue level at some points.

EDIT: And he's an analyst not a coach (I think)
In Inca we trust
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1186
dig dig dig I believeeeeee
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1187
On August 31 2013 06:19 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:16 Kiett wrote:
Seriously, what was the drag/baron counter for the series?

TSM: like 9 dragons 2 barons
CLG: absolutely nothing.

what the fuck


Apparently Monte didn't talk tot hem about actual game strategy and just told them compositions that didn't really change how they play from season 2 at all. Vayne/Malphite/Orianna is exactly the type of thing they'd do in S2 and they played like they were in S2 (farm city). Having a god awful support for a pro player miss every key crescendo doesn't help that either. They need to change things up but I honestly hope they're relegated so they can wake up a bit.

I'm sure he has, but they just keep forgetting or ignoring it. There have been random games in the later part of the season where it seemed like they were improving in terms of objectives and map pressure and won decisively, and I sincerely had hope for CLG. But after every good phase, they just regress and lose all the progress they made. I just don't get it.
Writer:o
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1188
On August 31 2013 06:20 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:17 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Volband wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:13 UmberBane wrote:
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.

Chauster is there for what, 2 years now? More? You can't train someone who is T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Pick a random challenger support and I garen-tee you he will outclass him. Not that it's a big feat or anything.

Chauster was pretty good when CLG was in KR and before be went to the jungle. His Ali was scary.

Yeah, so Chauster reached his skill-cap 15 months ago whil everyone else around him improved leaps and bounds (well maybe not everyone, especially in the immediate vicinity ~~)

His play now is worse than it's ever been. Maybe it's "I used to be good" mentality. Maybe it's something else. I don't know and it's not my place to speculate. his play was bad.

More pressing is the fact that CLG decision making still has a lot of flaws which is disappointing.

I honestly thought the presence of nydushermain would pressure chauster into getting better (Look at how snoopeh improved bounds with the pressure of shacker on EG) but it seems to haven't I wouldn't be surprised if chausterlift just refused to allow nydushermain to actually be tried out as a main support and just have him because you gotta have subs or something.
Glorious SEA doto
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1189
I honestly went from dying of laughter to cringing with embarrassment during that series. I expect this series to be worse. I'm not sure if my body is ready.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
August 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#1190
People thought Nien played well? Yes, he farmed his Q a crapton but literally did nothing around the map. Any diamond player can just island farm around the map and just run into team fights Qing people with tank items. Withering Caitlyn only goes so far with a team comp like that.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1191
I mean, if a team competing for fricking WORLDS we might even criticize Sona players for not doing the best possible Sona ults, because even little things like that (hitting 1 less guy, using it 0.5 seconds too early/late) can decide the fate of a teamfight.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1192
On August 31 2013 06:14 las91 wrote:
"Better not contest any dragons or map objectives and just farm and hope for the best!"

Thank God I don't have to watch any more CLG anywhere close to the top of NA. Hopefully Vulcan/C9 win out and we get two teams that can actually compete at worlds.


Both of them will get crushed.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1193
On August 31 2013 06:21 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I wonder if you can do a worse job as coach than montechristo.


He is not even in America. I'm not even sure he has met the team in person since he started as their ANALYST.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1194
GG.EU, Minenski and gaming bear will stomp tsm,curse,clg,dig anyday anytime.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1195
I love you too Xpecial.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#1196
On August 31 2013 06:20 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:17 MoonBear wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Volband wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:13 UmberBane wrote:
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.

Chauster is there for what, 2 years now? More? You can't train someone who is T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E. Pick a random challenger support and I garen-tee you he will outclass him. Not that it's a big feat or anything.

Chauster was pretty good when CLG was in KR and before be went to the jungle. His Ali was scary.

Yeah, so Chauster reached his skill-cap 15 months ago whil everyone else around him improved leaps and bounds (well maybe not everyone, especially in the immediate vicinity ~~)

His play now is worse than it's ever been. Maybe it's "I used to be good" mentality. Maybe it's something else. I don't know and it's not my place to speculate. his play was bad.

More pressing is the fact that CLG decision making still has a lot of flaws which is disappointing.

There's really a lot that's exposed there. Those sona ults were painfully unacceptable. But CLG's in game shotcalling (whoever is doing it), is equally horrific. They rotate slowly, plan wave pushes poorly, don't contest Monopoly Dragon etc etc. The decision making could come right out of my (wood league) solo queue games, and that's stunning for a team that's been pro for so long.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
August 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#1197
Xpecial looks like he has so much adrenalin right now. Keeps dancing/shaking.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#1198
On August 31 2013 06:22 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:19 las91 wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:16 Kiett wrote:
Seriously, what was the drag/baron counter for the series?

TSM: like 9 dragons 2 barons
CLG: absolutely nothing.

what the fuck


Apparently Monte didn't talk tot hem about actual game strategy and just told them compositions that didn't really change how they play from season 2 at all. Vayne/Malphite/Orianna is exactly the type of thing they'd do in S2 and they played like they were in S2 (farm city). Having a god awful support for a pro player miss every key crescendo doesn't help that either. They need to change things up but I honestly hope they're relegated so they can wake up a bit.

I'm sure he has, but they just keep forgetting or ignoring it. There have been random games in the later part of the season where it seemed like they were improving in terms of objectives and map pressure and won decisively, and I sincerely had hope for CLG. But after every good phase, they just regress and lose all the progress they made. I just don't get it.


How is that saying? Practice doesn't make perfect, only perfect pratice makes perfect. T_T
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#1199
Xpecial is trully a gentleman, lying so much about CLG, haha.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#1200
On August 31 2013 06:19 Slaughter wrote:
Now its time for curse or die! Literally.... If they lose everyone dies


Don't worry. Nothing will keep Curse away from 4th place.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
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