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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#4761
Atrioc makes a guide, picked in NA LCS he's 2/2 on it.


ATRIOC, MAKE A HEIMERDINGER GUIDE.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 01 2013 23:22 GMT
#4762
Come on TSM, please make this a series...
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 01 2013 23:23 GMT
#4763
Fizz gets banned/picked so often in eu why is it so surprising that he was picked in na I don't get it lol.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 01 2013 23:23 GMT
#4764
On September 02 2013 08:22 Gahlo wrote:
Come on TSM, please make this a series...


They have!

+ Show Spoiler +
A series of failures. :D
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 01 2013 23:23 GMT
#4765
On September 02 2013 08:22 Fusilero wrote:
Atrioc makes a guide, picked in NA LCS he's 2/2 on it.


ATRIOC, MAKE A HEIMERDINGER GUIDE.


Maybe he should make a Caitlyn guide... T_T
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#4766
On September 02 2013 08:22 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
I think the theory is sneakycastro/lemonation may have something exposed if they lose their utility cores.

C9 doesn't actually rely on Sneaky/Lemon to win lane or do well early, anyway. So I don't understand why they'd ban them out.

C9 has two exceptional 2v1 and a very strong duo lane now. If they manage to swap their duo into Fizz, he's going to fall behind


C9 's duo is Greedy though. They do push fairly hard with mediocre ward coverage. No Zyra/Ashe makes that actually risky.
Freeeeeeedom
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#4767
No Barrier/Ignite... Atrioc Guide ignored.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#4768
On September 02 2013 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:14 Alaric wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:12 gtrsrs wrote:
velocity season 4 #ibelieve

Since you're around (and you've probably done some research, what with Velocity's situation and all), opinions on the 3 qualified amateur teams? I've only seen TBD this week-end, and Denial eSports is totally unknown for me, so I've got some trouble evaluating them.


it's really hard for me to put my opinion out there for several reasons - coming from the amateur scene, i'm friends with all the amateur teams' players and their managers (when we made it into the LCS by defeating MRN, it wasn't just a win for velocity, it was a win for all amateur teams); everyone is ready to scrutinize everything i say and roast me when i'm wrong or say i'm being too cocky; i don't want to reveal strats or confidences to the teams we may face. so i often type out amateur team ratings (or LCS ratings) and then just delete them without posting them. anything i say has to be so neutered :c

so just as a broad stroke that is purely my personal opinion, not the opinion of the team, i do not feel threatened by any of the amateur teams. each of them have their own glaring weaknesses which i believe are extremely easy to exploit. velocity will be in season 4 and we WILL make playoffs and make a run for worlds

Isn't it pushing things a bit far, considering Marn was kinda amateur scene before the spring split and they qualified for it by beating DNG?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
September 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#4769
On September 02 2013 08:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
No Barrier/Ignite... Atrioc Guide ignored.

What is the Atrioc Guide o3o?
Barackopala
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
September 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#4770
I think you can beat C9 either by early lane shutdown, or possibly early picks. But TSM can't play either of those styles, it seems. Too one dimensional.

I wonder how C9 will handle the more strategically diverse korean teams.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#4771
On September 02 2013 08:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
No Barrier/Ignite... Atrioc Guide ignored.

He was skim-reading it.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#4772
well, not a lot of interrupts for shen ult, though neither balls nor hai will have a problem stopping a shen splitpush (and noct ult to block stand united )
also two manaless casters for C9 so meteos can take every blue (hur hur)
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#4773
Atrioc's Fizz Guide:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427678

Atrioc: Best Guide Writer NA.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#4774
On September 02 2013 08:24 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:14 Alaric wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:12 gtrsrs wrote:
velocity season 4 #ibelieve

Since you're around (and you've probably done some research, what with Velocity's situation and all), opinions on the 3 qualified amateur teams? I've only seen TBD this week-end, and Denial eSports is totally unknown for me, so I've got some trouble evaluating them.


it's really hard for me to put my opinion out there for several reasons - coming from the amateur scene, i'm friends with all the amateur teams' players and their managers (when we made it into the LCS by defeating MRN, it wasn't just a win for velocity, it was a win for all amateur teams); everyone is ready to scrutinize everything i say and roast me when i'm wrong or say i'm being too cocky; i don't want to reveal strats or confidences to the teams we may face. so i often type out amateur team ratings (or LCS ratings) and then just delete them without posting them. anything i say has to be so neutered :c

so just as a broad stroke that is purely my personal opinion, not the opinion of the team, i do not feel threatened by any of the amateur teams. each of them have their own glaring weaknesses which i believe are extremely easy to exploit. velocity will be in season 4 and we WILL make playoffs and make a run for worlds

Isn't it pushing things a bit far, considering Marn was kinda amateur scene before the spring split and they qualified for it by beating DNG?

MRN also beat C9 if I'm remembering correcly. That was then, this is now.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 23:26:48
September 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#4775
On September 02 2013 08:24 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:14 Alaric wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:12 gtrsrs wrote:
velocity season 4 #ibelieve

Since you're around (and you've probably done some research, what with Velocity's situation and all), opinions on the 3 qualified amateur teams? I've only seen TBD this week-end, and Denial eSports is totally unknown for me, so I've got some trouble evaluating them.


it's really hard for me to put my opinion out there for several reasons - coming from the amateur scene, i'm friends with all the amateur teams' players and their managers (when we made it into the LCS by defeating MRN, it wasn't just a win for velocity, it was a win for all amateur teams); everyone is ready to scrutinize everything i say and roast me when i'm wrong or say i'm being too cocky; i don't want to reveal strats or confidences to the teams we may face. so i often type out amateur team ratings (or LCS ratings) and then just delete them without posting them. anything i say has to be so neutered :c

so just as a broad stroke that is purely my personal opinion, not the opinion of the team, i do not feel threatened by any of the amateur teams. each of them have their own glaring weaknesses which i believe are extremely easy to exploit. velocity will be in season 4 and we WILL make playoffs and make a run for worlds

Isn't it pushing things a bit far, considering Marn was kinda amateur scene before the spring split and they qualified for it by beating DNG?


no, i don't mean that as a dig at MRN
i mean like... it showed that amateur teams, without team houses, without sponsors, without all the practice that LCS teams got, could still compete with LCS teams. you know? it showed that like, if team summon or double buff had just placed better on the amateur circuit, maybe they coulda knocked out MRN. it gave the amateur scene hope. i didn't mean that to sound like the amateur scene hated MRN or anything like that lol

same with quantic beating coL but that's a SLIGHTLY different story
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 23:26:46
September 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#4776
Nice farm Regi.
Atrioc's Fizz guide

Hm, 11.000th post is an Atrioc plug... hey, could be worse!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#4777
Regi with the 1 CS at 3 minutes. Yea this game is over oh well
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#4778
On September 02 2013 08:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:24 Alaric wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:14 Alaric wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:12 gtrsrs wrote:
velocity season 4 #ibelieve

Since you're around (and you've probably done some research, what with Velocity's situation and all), opinions on the 3 qualified amateur teams? I've only seen TBD this week-end, and Denial eSports is totally unknown for me, so I've got some trouble evaluating them.


it's really hard for me to put my opinion out there for several reasons - coming from the amateur scene, i'm friends with all the amateur teams' players and their managers (when we made it into the LCS by defeating MRN, it wasn't just a win for velocity, it was a win for all amateur teams); everyone is ready to scrutinize everything i say and roast me when i'm wrong or say i'm being too cocky; i don't want to reveal strats or confidences to the teams we may face. so i often type out amateur team ratings (or LCS ratings) and then just delete them without posting them. anything i say has to be so neutered :c

so just as a broad stroke that is purely my personal opinion, not the opinion of the team, i do not feel threatened by any of the amateur teams. each of them have their own glaring weaknesses which i believe are extremely easy to exploit. velocity will be in season 4 and we WILL make playoffs and make a run for worlds

Isn't it pushing things a bit far, considering Marn was kinda amateur scene before the spring split and they qualified for it by beating DNG?

MRN also beat C9 if I'm remembering correcly. That was then, this is now.

Hard to believe some of these guys were the ones that missed LCS due to getting base raced by marn.
Glorious SEA doto
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 01 2013 23:27 GMT
#4779
Regi already promising
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 23:28:43
September 01 2013 23:27 GMT
#4780
On September 02 2013 08:24 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 08:22 DragoonTT wrote:
On September 02 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
I think the theory is sneakycastro/lemonation may have something exposed if they lose their utility cores.

C9 doesn't actually rely on Sneaky/Lemon to win lane or do well early, anyway. So I don't understand why they'd ban them out.

C9 has two exceptional 2v1 and a very strong duo lane now. If they manage to swap their duo into Fizz, he's going to fall behind


C9 's duo is Greedy though. They do push fairly hard with mediocre ward coverage. No Zyra/Ashe makes that actually risky.


Also Lemonnation's Zyra does not get the recognition it deserves from teamfights, because the other C9 players play more flashy. He was actually ~ 0/1/20 last game with perfect ultimates all game.

I think the Zyra ban is even more importantn than Ashe/Varus.
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