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On September 02 2013 07:10 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 07:08 TheSinisterRed wrote: The Vayne pick was terrible for TSM. Just too short of a range against C9's team. They needed Cait for Turtle to do anything. It doesn't help that in fights in bot lane TSM kept going for Lemon instead of Sneaky.
because varus has shield but vayne has cleanse
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I think a stronger midgame AD would have made a huge difference in that game. Vayne wasn't even doing much damage and people were still all getting very low.
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On September 02 2013 07:11 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 07:10 Azelja wrote: C9 is not vastly better than TSM <.< They are great, maybe better... but not vastly better. It's not even close, ur fanboi glasses just cloud9 ur sight, sorry Had to...
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On September 02 2013 07:11 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 07:10 Azelja wrote: C9 is not vastly better than TSM <.< They are great, maybe better... but not vastly better. It's not even close, ur fanboi glasses just cloud ur sight, sorry Keep drinking that haterade.
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On September 02 2013 07:12 Haasts wrote: Really glad the crowd's pulling out CLOUD 9 CLOUD 9 CLOUD 9 chants for 'em.
I think they should get "CLOOOOUUUUD 9 *clap clap clap*" chant rhythm because the other one too much like TSM TSM TSM.
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Dyrus karthus really is like Scarra's. unimpressive
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Yup! "Cloud 9! DUM DUM DUM. Cloud 9! DUM DUM DUM" would sound awesome
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On September 02 2013 07:14 ExoFun wrote: Dyrus karthus really is like Scarra's. unimpressive
Tbh Dyrus played the best out of all of TSM, as always. He constantly had great positioning with his Defile, but Wildturtle/Regi/TOO were pretty disappointing.
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On September 02 2013 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 07:10 Azelja wrote: C9 is not vastly better than TSM <.< They are great, maybe better... but not vastly better. Every single player of C9 is better than his TSM counterpart. And they got better teamwork. I call that vastly better. Maybe even a bit higher.
I think you could easily argue that Xpecial is better than Lemon but otherwise, yeah.
The thing about C9 though is they don't have to be better than TSM. They play as a team much better than TSM or any other NA team.
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On September 02 2013 07:14 UmberBane wrote: Yup! "Cloud 9! DUM DUM DUM. Cloud 9! DUM DUM DUM" would sound awesome With the NBA-theme (or whatever that jam is called, you Americans) in the background.
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Someone solo'd a "LET'S GO TSM! LET'S GO!" chant. Didn't repeat because no one else followed with him lol
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On September 02 2013 07:11 Fusilero wrote: TSM looked fairly even at the start but when C9 hit their mid game spike it wasn't even close. C9 are just so good at asserting themselves when they have a lead, when c9 wants a fight they fight they don't dance around going "oooh I don't think it's perfect enough" I think that (way too) forced fight top was the turning point. TSM lost the fight, then Meteos were able to pressure bot since there was noone there to stop it from pushing. They proceed to get Xpecial+tower+drake (stupid Elise) while TSM only gets a tower. That was a large gold swing between the previous fight and that, and a bunch of map control that TSM relinquished (plus the momentum).
I still don't get why they let Balls get Rumble. He's not a one-trick pony but his Rumble is significantly better than the rest of his (rather narrow) champion pool and also brings a ton of objective/zone control which is exactly what C9 likes. Plus, Rumble is one of Dyrus' best champions. If you take Rumble away from Balls, he's not playing as well, and the rest of the pool has nowhere near as much dragon control so it harms their playstyle too.
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On so many of those fights and picks I could see where Cait could have a timely ult. Sure Ken was a threat but even if you condemn, Ken's rush still puts him back in range. Vayne is just bad against all that AOE.
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damn the lack of mechanics on tsm side is really showing this game
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TSM needs to pick better...
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cloud 9's ability to make snap decisions is their biggest strength no other na team is able to react as quickly or as decisively as them and they just crush mid game as a result
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On September 02 2013 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 07:10 Azelja wrote: C9 is not vastly better than TSM <.< They are great, maybe better... but not vastly better. Every single player of C9 is better than his TSM counterpart. And they got better teamwork. I call that vastly better. Maybe even a bit higher. Not the support imo, but pretty much yea
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On September 02 2013 07:15 ketchup wrote: Someone solo'd a "LET'S GO TSM! LET'S GO!" chant. Didn't repeat because no one else followed with him lol
Ah I think that's another one that works better with 2 syllabies actually! "Let's go Cloud 9 let's go!"
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On September 02 2013 07:16 Owned Noob wrote: cloud 9's ability to make snap decisions is their biggest strength no other na team is able to react as quickly or as decisively as them and they just crush mid game as a result
I do think that many NA teams are very hesitant, and are afraid to go balls deep on every engage, because you only take the engages you know you can win.
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I seriously don't understand the fanboism for TSM.
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