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On August 03 2013 07:07 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:05 ketchup wrote:On August 03 2013 07:02 Haiq343 wrote:On August 03 2013 06:59 Woony wrote:
I know it's so fucking tired to bash the NA LCS but this is just beyond words. It wouldn't be so bad if this shit didn't happen ever y fucking week. Turn massive advantages at 20 minutes into 50 minute throwfests. I mean if you wanted high quality games, the TI3 play-in series might be more your thing today. Except quantic just tried to throw rofl. NA LCS is unstoppable. Don't know how you can pretend that. The non-asian scene in DotA2 has just has many throws as their LoL counterpart. It's amazing this was even said. I mean there's a reason there are sites such as: http://whendidegthrowlast.com/ Pretty sad to find out whendiddignitasthrowlast.com is a parked domain.
You don't a page for that when you already know they throw every game.
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On August 03 2013 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm I just don't think his recent slump nullifies all of the amazing plays he's made (and just made). We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Agreed
On August 03 2013 07:05 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm Evaniskus is by far the worst.
Dig just isn't a top 3 NA team anymore and Patoy isn't a top 3 support either. Xspecial, Ed, Lemon, Blood, Daydreamin all ahead of him imo. I'd put him ahead of chauster though
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On August 03 2013 07:08 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:07 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 07:05 ketchup wrote:On August 03 2013 07:02 Haiq343 wrote:On August 03 2013 06:59 Woony wrote:
I know it's so fucking tired to bash the NA LCS but this is just beyond words. It wouldn't be so bad if this shit didn't happen ever y fucking week. Turn massive advantages at 20 minutes into 50 minute throwfests. I mean if you wanted high quality games, the TI3 play-in series might be more your thing today. Except quantic just tried to throw rofl. NA LCS is unstoppable. Don't know how you can pretend that. The non-asian scene in DotA2 has just has many throws as their LoL counterpart. It's amazing this was even said. I mean there's a reason there are sites such as: http://whendidegthrowlast.com/ Pretty sad to find out whendiddignitasthrowlast.com is a parked domain. You don't a page for that when you already know they throw every game.
Doesn't count if they still win.
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qtpie is my hero :')
if dig didn't win that i was going to have an aneurysm
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Two more games before CLG vs. TSM? zzzzzzzzzzz
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On August 03 2013 07:07 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:05 beefhamburger wrote:On August 03 2013 07:02 Redox wrote:On August 03 2013 07:01 jakesrevenge wrote:
DIGNITAS DIDNT THROW AT BARON!!! what is this
Actually it was a bad baron call again. They just luckily won the fight (or played the fight somewhat better). I don't think Dig ever tried to Baron (except once) that entire game. It seemed they almost exclusively used it to bait TSM into fighting. You can see the instant they see someone from TSM approaching the baron pit, they all turn on him and try to take him down. They didn't have any intention of risking losing baron again. Normally you dont "bait" them into a baron fight by not having oracle or even pink ward, while an enemy pink ward is in the pit. And lose a lot of your hp in the process.
If you are stronger than the other team or have a high pick potential, you don't need to clear wards. You can just turn when they come. Wards are more for if you don't want to fight the enemy team at baron so you have enough warning to back off in time. So yes wards would be better, but not required.
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On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS over Patoy atm edit:spelling
I don't really get what you want him to do. He mostly plays Sona, Zyra, Janna, and sometimes Fiddle. Would he somehow be better if he dove into the fight and got insta-gibbed?
His job is usually to pop his extremely influential ult and then peel for qtpie and stay on the outskirts. Oftentimes this saves Dig's ass because they pick a horrible fight and Patoy staying alive allows them to run away/disengage.
But you know, diving into the fight and dying heroically as a squishy support is cool I guess.
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I kinda hope TSM fails to get to Worlds to Regi retires.
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On August 03 2013 07:09 SoulSever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm I just don't think his recent slump nullifies all of the amazing plays he's made (and just made). We'll just have to agree to disagree. Agreed Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:05 Volband wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm Evaniskus is by far the worst. Dig just isn't a top 3 NA team anymore and Patoy isn't a top 3 support either. Xspecial, Ed, Lemon, Blood, Daydreamin all ahead of him imo. I'd put him ahead of chauster though
There is no top3 NA atm.C9 is best by far and other teams except velocity have fair chance to be in top 3 spot.
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I'm not a huge fan of Dignitas, but I'm such a fan of qtpie that I have to root for them to win.
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On August 03 2013 07:05 Silentenigma wrote:Qt was always solid in dig.Kiwi and crumbz are underplaying this season and scarra is so random.He either carries or becomes useless most of games.
to be fair, scarra's performance has a lot to do with the champions he picks, firstpicking him gimmick champions loses so many games for them
and crumbz on j4 and lee sin is usually alright
d'awww that interview
i just love the dig guys i can't help it
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On August 03 2013 07:11 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of Dignitas, but I'm such a fan of qtpie that I have to root for them to win.
Scarra is pretty strong on his good days aswell.I think most people watch dig for qtpie patoy and scarra.
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On August 03 2013 07:11 Silentenigma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:09 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm I just don't think his recent slump nullifies all of the amazing plays he's made (and just made). We'll just have to agree to disagree. Agreed On August 03 2013 07:05 Volband wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:56 SoulSever wrote:On August 03 2013 06:51 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 03 2013 06:48 SoulSever wrote:
It makes me so happy when Patoy dies. All I ever see is dig getting aced except for Patoy because he pussies out hard. And he gets so much talk about best support NA. Such an over-rated piece of trash ugh LOL. That is all. Going back to early season 3 and some of season 2 maybe (?) when he almost exclusively played Nunu, a summary of his play would be to bloodboil the wrong teammate then use Absolute Zero from over a wall. He might be a great support but he leaves so much to be desired. But it's ok we'll just forget about it since his KDA is so good right? Patoy didn't get much love in Season 2. People didn't start to praise him till the LCS started up. Also I wouldn't judge a player on their Nunu play. When he's on champs like Sona or Zyra he makes plays and often turns fights in Dignitas' favor. Also saying he's great but could improve is way different than calling him trash. Trash wasn't the point of my post, Overrated was. It bugs me so much that fans and casters drool over his KDA when he's just a big pussy. I would take most other supports in LCS iver Patoy atm Evaniskus is by far the worst. Dig just isn't a top 3 NA team anymore and Patoy isn't a top 3 support either. Xspecial, Ed, Lemon, Blood, Daydreamin all ahead of him imo. I'd put him ahead of chauster though There is no top3 NA atm.C9 is best by far and other teams except velocity have fair chance to be in top 3 spot.
When it comes down to World's, who are your reps from NA if you could pick any 3? Surely not Dig...
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On August 03 2013 07:12 Affenaffe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:05 Silentenigma wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 MattBarry wrote:
Qtpie is actually really good. Wow. Qt was always solid in dig.Kiwi and crumbz are underplaying this season and scarra is so random.He either carries or becomes useless most of games. to be fair, scarra's performance has a lot to do with the champions he picks, firstpicking him gimmick champions loses so many games for them and crumbz on j4 and lee sin is usually alright d'awww that interview i just love the dig guys i can't help it
He picks those things because those are the only champs he believes he can play. Then he still plays like shit. There's no to be fair with Scarra anymore. It's about time people face the facts.
edit: I say this as a scarra fanboy. Love that guy. Whenever he used to stream I would be there and watch vods even. Frustrates me seeing him so poor these days
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On August 03 2013 07:15 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:12 Affenaffe wrote:On August 03 2013 07:05 Silentenigma wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 MattBarry wrote:
Qtpie is actually really good. Wow. Qt was always solid in dig.Kiwi and crumbz are underplaying this season and scarra is so random.He either carries or becomes useless most of games. to be fair, scarra's performance has a lot to do with the champions he picks, firstpicking him gimmick champions loses so many games for them and crumbz on j4 and lee sin is usually alright d'awww that interview i just love the dig guys i can't help it He picks those things because those are the only champs he believes he can play. Then he still plays like shit. There's no to be fair with Scarra anymore. It's about time people face the facts.
what do you mean? that he isn't top 3 na as midlaner? sure, but he doesn't have to get crushed in cs every game if he can pick safe/counterpick champs. he is still a good lategame player.
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On August 03 2013 07:15 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:12 Affenaffe wrote:On August 03 2013 07:05 Silentenigma wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 MattBarry wrote:
Qtpie is actually really good. Wow. Qt was always solid in dig.Kiwi and crumbz are underplaying this season and scarra is so random.He either carries or becomes useless most of games. to be fair, scarra's performance has a lot to do with the champions he picks, firstpicking him gimmick champions loses so many games for them and crumbz on j4 and lee sin is usually alright d'awww that interview i just love the dig guys i can't help it He picks those things because those are the only champs he believes he can play. Then he still plays like shit. There's no to be fair with Scarra anymore. It's about time people face the facts.
I think its better than seeing same champions every fucking game.NALCS needs more pros like scarra.
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Vulcun with a slighly interesting teamcomp at least
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On August 03 2013 07:18 Silentenigma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:15 Numy wrote:On August 03 2013 07:12 Affenaffe wrote:On August 03 2013 07:05 Silentenigma wrote:On August 03 2013 07:03 MattBarry wrote:
Qtpie is actually really good. Wow. Qt was always solid in dig.Kiwi and crumbz are underplaying this season and scarra is so random.He either carries or becomes useless most of games. to be fair, scarra's performance has a lot to do with the champions he picks, firstpicking him gimmick champions loses so many games for them and crumbz on j4 and lee sin is usually alright d'awww that interview i just love the dig guys i can't help it He picks those things because those are the only champs he believes he can play. Then he still plays like shit. There's no to be fair with Scarra anymore. It's about time people face the facts. I think its better than seeing same champions every fucking game.LCS needs more pros like scarra.
No needs less legacy pros like Scarra and more pros like Faker, Mima etc.
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Does the draven nerf mean we'll never get to see CopDraven anymore? I was really enjoying watching him be a monster and tearing through everyone :[
rip
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