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On July 20 2013 10:57 Anakko wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes Nah, they actually looked good. Just didn't take risks. But they wouldn't be last if they played that way from the start of the split
Yeah, if I was on Ves with only 3 wins to my name and had control of the game, I would play as carefully as possible to keep from throwing. I feel like if they get another good week and a few more wins they will start closing games out faster and with more confidence.
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On July 20 2013 10:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 10:58 Redox wrote:On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes Ves played it just right. Nice how you say they looked bad when you didnt even watch. watched first 10 and last 10 minutes lookd very zz
They played out mid game correctly I felt though. It's not like they were going to get outscaled by Vulcun into late game; not to mention they were still outfarming Vulcun the entire time. It's not like they let Vulcun get ahead; also their team comp isn't exactly the best tower diving teamcomp either.
The last 5-10 min; I agree. They were ridiculously far ahead; should have just strutted in and styl'd all over Vulcun.
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On July 20 2013 11:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 10:59 caelym wrote:On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes what you get off your damn high horse and just bask in the glory of what is effectively Team Liquid getting a perfect week? i dont associate ves with team liquid
I dont care if you dont. shut your mouth and stop being condescending.
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On July 20 2013 10:59 Alaric wrote:
Wait, 3 games next week? Is that super week? And I'll be away the whole week-end... oh man, so many VoDs to catch up to.
Same here, so much VoD watching coming up.
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I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything.
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On July 20 2013 10:59 Alaric wrote:
Wait, 3 games next week? Is that super week? And I'll be away the whole week-end... oh man, so many VoDs to catch up to.
I think it's just a normal week. Feels like this week was crunched because of EU.
Dis Nunu inerview.
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On July 20 2013 11:01 Badboyrune wrote:
I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything.
he's actually a marksmage.
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On July 20 2013 11:02 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:01 Badboyrune wrote:
I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything. he's actually a marksmage.
lol.
And VES played fine that game. Not great but fairly good by NA standards.
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I like that "disengage" and Ecco "No, no! I'm going in!" and then Vileroze is all "Go back in!".
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On July 20 2013 11:01 caelym wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 20 2013 10:59 caelym wrote:On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes what you get off your damn high horse and just bask in the glory of what is effectively Team Liquid getting a perfect week? i dont associate ves with team liquid I dont care if you dont. shut your mouth and stop being condescending.
please don't condescend to me
On July 20 2013 11:01 Badboyrune wrote:
I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything.
they call him ad carry cause he basically builds and plays the same way when he's picked for bot
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On July 20 2013 11:02 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:02 wei2coolman wrote:On July 20 2013 11:01 Badboyrune wrote:
I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything. he's actually a marksmage. lol. And VES played fine that game. Not great but fairly good by NA standards.
Ecco's TF was so Hnnnnggg worthy. He fucking played PERFECT. Such sick plays.
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On July 20 2013 11:00 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 10:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 20 2013 10:58 Redox wrote:On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes Ves played it just right. Nice how you say they looked bad when you didnt even watch. watched first 10 and last 10 minutes lookd very zz They played out mid game correctly I felt though. It's not like they were going to get outscaled by Vulcun into late game; not to mention they were still outfarming Vulcun the entire time. It's not like they let Vulcun get ahead; also their team comp isn't exactly the best tower diving teamcomp either. The last 5-10 min; I agree. They were ridiculously far ahead; should have just strutted in and styl'd all over Vulcun.
I think it was fine from VES to play slowly. A better team would have closed out faster, but you gotta walk before you can run.
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I'd rather have VES win boring and safe, growing their 10k gold lead to 20k gold lead, then have them try to end the game as quickly as possible, get caught, lose a big team fight, lose Baron and then watch as they somehow lose a game that they shouldn't have lost.
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BEST MARKSMAN CONFIRMED.
The ban gods were clearly pleased with yesterdays sacrifice
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Ecco has really been the key to turning around Velocity. He puts pressure on mid whereas teams before could focus on botlane as it was the only real threat to carry.
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On July 20 2013 11:04 Fionn wrote:
I'd rather have VES win boring and safe, growing their 10k gold lead to 20k gold lead, then have them try to end the game as quickly as possible, get caught, lose a big team fight, lose Baron and then watch as they somehow lose a game that they shouldn't have lost.
both are bad, one's not necessarily better than the other, because if you needlessly drag on a team without being decisive enough to end, you're simply giving the other team more time to farm and more chances to make a comeback
vulcun had the better late game comp tbh they just never got to a point where everyone wasnt down at least 1 item
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Looks like no one will ever run double AD vs VES again
Oh who am I kidding, CLG will probably try 3 carries next time
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On July 20 2013 11:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:04 Fionn wrote:
I'd rather have VES win boring and safe, growing their 10k gold lead to 20k gold lead, then have them try to end the game as quickly as possible, get caught, lose a big team fight, lose Baron and then watch as they somehow lose a game that they shouldn't have lost. both are bad, one's not necessarily better than the other, because if you needlessly drag on a team without being decisive enough to end, you're simply giving the other team more time to farm and more chances to make a comeback vulcun had the better late game comp tbh they just never got to a point where everyone wasnt down at least 1 item
Vulcun needed another 30k gold before reaching the point where they could out DPS the tankiness that VES had.
VES had a huge time buffer, and it's not like they were losing their lead; they were GROWING it. The problem with EU games; is the lead doesn't change (which is losing your lead due to scaling).
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People will ban Ecco's TF (and probably Vileroze's Shen, at least until he proves he has other options as solid if not more for offlane and 1v2), more probably.
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On July 20 2013 11:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:01 caelym wrote:On July 20 2013 11:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 20 2013 10:59 caelym wrote:On July 20 2013 10:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i left after ves was up like 10k come back 30 minutes later game is still going
and this is why ves is last place - even when they win they look bad
this was more zz-inducing than eu games where teams sit on 30k leads and do nothing for 30 minutes what you get off your damn high horse and just bask in the glory of what is effectively Team Liquid getting a perfect week? i dont associate ves with team liquid I dont care if you dont. shut your mouth and stop being condescending. please don't condescend to me Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 11:01 Badboyrune wrote:
I feel like people should stop calling blue ez an ad carry. Its almost like calling any malphite or cho who picks up an abyssal an ap carry.
In my mind blue ez does quite little of what an ad carry does. Sure he does auto attack but he's more of an ad caster if anything. they call him ad carry cause he basically builds and plays the same way when he's picked for bot
They shouldn't call him an ad carry when he's bot either, assuming he goes for standard blue build.
Edit: Marksmage sounds good to me!
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