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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:09 Dan HH wrote: Are you sure? iirc the players said the roster lock happens in August Like I said above, "lock" is probably the wrong word to use here. NiP can bench Deficio for another Dane but not for an entirely new Support. :3 | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:11 RouaF wrote: so this game taught us that annie has no mobility and no damage... :-/ really feel like nip could've done much better with a stronger mid pick She has the damage, just zero mobility. NiP had poor position and it wasn't enough to compensate for Annie's slowness. | ||
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:11 RouaF wrote: so this game taught us that annie has no mobility and no damage... :-/ really feel like nip could've done much better with a stronger mid pick Annie not having damage comes down to the build, though. Getting early Ancient Golem will hurt your damage a lot. Jayce is also a pretty terrible lane for her - don't get why they set Bjergsen up for that | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I've given up on telling him to stop bashing EU Ad Carries. Honestly people should actually go in game and test those things before judging it too hard. While I won't agree with Genja's tear-bt-muramana-lw build, I've played a decent amount of Ashe games (~10) and I can definitely appreciate the tear which allows me to always have Q toggled on, spam volleys forever and not having to care if I will have enough mana for Arrow if I use volley here. (I'm building double Doran's + Tear into standard IE PD etc with lifesteal quints) Pros will have their reasons for certain builds, and as long as it works and brings in results (aTn & Gambit currently #1 & #2) why question it too much. EG vs SK, Battle for last place. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:14 AsnSensation wrote: I've given up on telling him to stop bashing EU Ad Carries. Honestly people should actually go in game and test those things before judging it too hard. While I won't agree with Genja's tear-bt-muramana-lw build, I've played a decent amount of Ashe games (~10) and I can definitely appreciate the tear which allows me to always have Q toggled on, spam volleys forever and not having to care if I will have enough mana for Arrow if I use volley here. (I'm building double Doran's + Tear into standard IE PD etc with lifesteal quints) Pros will have their reasons for certain builds, and as long as it works and brings in results (aTn & Gambit currently #1 & #2) why question it too much. EG vs SK, Battle for last place. I'm with you. There are situations where I cringe and cannot accept (Double's Omen buy against double/triple(?) AP) but for the most part, Creaton's Ez build and Genja's Ashe build makes sense and the pros make it work. Your average joe probably can't make it work and it most certainly work in solo q. | ||
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sataNik[pG]
Greece722 Posts
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
Quick question, does Muramana dmg apply on Jayce Q? I think it does but it seemed to do so little damage, guessing WK forgot to toggle muramana properly which is kinda fail if it's true (just a guess tho). Can't believe EG vs SK is actually a battle for last place. Say that to anyone a year ago and they'd have laughed in your face. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote: Like I said above, "lock" is probably the wrong word to use here. NiP can bench Deficio for another Dane but not for an entirely new Support. :3 How does nationality play into this? Looks like I missed something last time I read info about how rosters work. Edit: makes sense. I initially thought this but since Neo was insisting so much on "Danes" I wondered if he really meant it. Yeah, go ahead, be disappoint, that won't be predictable at all. :~ Alternate's play makes me really appreciate champs like Lissandra and Hecarim, if only because of how they can force brutal teamfights with their initiation. Though maybe I should blame it on EU/NA relying a bunch on Varus for their own hard engages. :3 | ||
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StarStruck
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:20 Alaric wrote: How does nationality play into this? Looks like I missed something last time I read info about how rosters work. Alternate's play makes me really appreciate champs like Lissandra and Hecarim, if only because of how they can force brutal teamfights with their initiation. Though maybe I should blame it on EU/NA relying a bunch on Varus for their own hard engages. :3 I think with Danes he ment old NiP roster players. Who are on the bench currently. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:17 NeoIllusions wrote: I'm with you. There are situations where I cringe and cannot accept (Double's Omen buy against double/triple(?) AP) but for the most part, Creaton's Ez build and Genja's Ashe build makes sense and the pros make it work. Your average joe probably can't make it work and it most certainly work in solo q. I guess at a glance it's easier to blame a weird item build for a loss than looking deeper. A lot of the disdain for the "cancer" build I feel comes from times where it didn't work at all. I think it was Tabbzz actually that went it once or twice and did horribly with it. Creaton is the only one I've actually seen make it work out. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:20 Alaric wrote: How does nationality play into this? Looks like I missed something last time I read info about how rosters work. Alternate's play makes me really appreciate champs like Lissandra and Hecarim, if only because of how they can force brutal teamfights with their initiation. Though maybe I should blame it on EU/NA relying a bunch on Varus for their own hard engages. :3 Nationality doesn't matter. I say "Dane(s)" because NiP's old roster and current sub are all Danish. But basically LCS rules prevents you from entirely replacing the # of players on your roster and you have 3 max subs. I don't know the exact rules but afaik, benching TheTess, Sven and GodBro means NiP can't replace anyone else of the old active roster. | ||
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JALbert
United States484 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:24 NeoIllusions wrote: Nationality doesn't matter. I say "Dane(s)" because NiP's old roster and current sub are all Danish. But basically LCS rules prevents you from entirely replacing the # of players on your roster and you have 3 max subs. I don't know the exact rules but afaik, benching TheTess, Sven and GodBro means NiP can't replace anyone else of the old active roster. So also if they have someone sick they're running on zero subs? That sounds... awkward. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:24 Numy wrote: I guess at a glance it's easier to blame a weird item build for a loss than looking deeper. A lot of the disdain for the "cancer" build I feel comes from times where it didn't work at all. I think it was Tabbzz actually that went it once or twice and did horribly with it. Creaton is the only one I've actually seen make it work out. The EU ADC being bad comments become a problem because it turns into a hyperbole. I still believe it's their weakest role, but often times that evolves into "god EU ADCs are trash and shouldn't even be in the LCS" | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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skykh
3006 Posts
On July 08 2013 00:26 onlywonderboy wrote: The ADC being terrible comments becomes a problem because it turns into a hyperbole. I still believe it's their weakest role, but often times that evolves into "god EU ADCs are trash and shouldn't even be in the LCS" I dont see how na ad carry's are better then eu except doublelift. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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