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If you have any questions you want to ask C9 Meteos, PM Neo in the next 24 hours. Interview will be conducted this weekend.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 14 2013 00:52 GMT
#2101
On June 14 2013 09:51 Slusher wrote:
I really like VES team comp, except for Jarvan, I feel like Naut woulda been a lot better here, but hey, J4 ganks mid really well and Kayle had good gank support if they want to try to shut down Kha.

Draven Nami is super strong 2v2 I think they can even bully a thresh lane.


They have trist vs draven.That's like one of the most pathetic comparisons in early ever lol.
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 14 2013 00:52 GMT
#2102
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 00:55:23
June 14 2013 00:54 GMT
#2103
On June 14 2013 09:51 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:50 lilwisper wrote:
lol @ kayle mary

I dont get it.

Hail mary pun.

Secret to beating Khaziks; shit all over him at level 1.

Cris playing this 1v2 stupidly well.
liftlift > tsm
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 14 2013 00:56 GMT
#2104
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO


NA strong? Teams can lose or win on any given day? I'm not so sure about your last point. Sometimes it's difficult to watch but we get interesting games, but compared to other regions. These guys could get bodied pretty hard. With more looks it might actually help them with how they play certain heroes to improve much more.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 14 2013 00:56 GMT
#2105
Jungling? What? Tri-lanes up in this game.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#2106
On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.

Pretty sure no one is even remotely touchy. This is TL, we're pretty damn aware how behind NA is compared to KR/CN/Asian teams in general.

It's just if you take your statement for face value, then there's no point for you to be watching NA LCS because hey, 95% of the teams would lose to KR anyways, np.

It's an incredibly inane statement to make.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#2107
On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.

I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#2108
Interesting movement from VES with these three man pushes. More interesting is Vulcun's response. Seems they are handling the pressure well.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#2109
Bloodwater is fucking KING.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 14 2013 00:59 GMT
#2110
On June 14 2013 09:56 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO


NA strong? Teams can lose or win on any given day? I'm not so sure about your last point. Sometimes it's difficult to watch but we get interesting games, but compared to other regions. These guys could get bodied pretty hard. With more looks it might actually help them with how they play certain heroes to improve much more.


NA is probably weaker as a whole than EU/KR/CN. There are some stand out SEA teams but I'm sure plenty of NA teams could take down plenty of SEA teams (maybe even TPA/TPS since they've kinda fell from grace but who knows...that's what happened last year too lol).

I think top tier NA teams could easily take games, and even a series, off top tier EU and CN teams. The discussion shouldn't even be, "NA is so behind," it should be, "everyone is so behind the Koreans."

But that's just imo.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#2111
WHAT KENNEN NOT BLOWING HIS ULT IN A HOPELESS 1V2 AS HE IS ABOUT TO DIE, WHAT IS THIS MADNESS??
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#2112
On June 14 2013 09:59 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:56 StarStruck wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO


NA strong? Teams can lose or win on any given day? I'm not so sure about your last point. Sometimes it's difficult to watch but we get interesting games, but compared to other regions. These guys could get bodied pretty hard. With more looks it might actually help them with how they play certain heroes to improve much more.


NA is probably weaker as a whole than EU/KR/CN. There are some stand out SEA teams but I'm sure plenty of NA teams could take down plenty of SEA teams (maybe even TPA/TPS since they've kinda fell from grace but who knows...that's what happened last year too lol).

I think top tier NA teams could easily take games, and even a series, off top tier EU and CN teams. The discussion shouldn't even be, "NA is so behind," it should be, "everyone is so behind the Koreans."

But that's just imo.

I dunno; aside from Fnatic, I think EU and NA is pretty close imo.
liftlift > tsm
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#2113
On June 14 2013 09:57 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.

I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself.

I dont follow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 01:03:25
June 14 2013 01:01 GMT
#2114
On June 14 2013 10:00 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:57 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.

I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself.

I dont follow


let me describe how your original post read to me.

"I tried to tell you guys TSM wasn't that good, but you guys were too dumb to realize it and called me an idiot."

mabye not what you meant, thats what I read. Judging by the reaction to your post I would guess I'm not in the minority here.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 01:03 GMT
#2115
Bloodwater carrying Vulcan; such an underrated support player. #hookcity
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 01:04:43
June 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#2116
Kha'Zix somewhat showing as a better FP than Kennen.
Edit: And yeah, BloodWater fucking boss playmaker.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#2117
On June 14 2013 10:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Kha'Zix somewhat showing as a better FP than Kennen.

Yeep, Kha pretty good.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#2118
On June 14 2013 10:01 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 10:00 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:57 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.

I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself.

I dont follow


let me describe how your original post read to me.

"I tried to tell you guys TSM wasn't that good, but you guys were too dumb to realize it and called me an idiot."

mabye not what you meant, thats what I read.

That was just a repsonse to some1 yesteday that just called me a hater, when its not the case at all tbh.
I might have worded it bad, what i meant was that ppl hype TSM so much not only here but all over the place when they arent any diferent from any of the other top NA teams
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
June 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#2119
Where was Vileroze when Cris got jumped? Kayle ult would have done a lot of work there.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 14 2013 01:05 GMT
#2120
On June 14 2013 10:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Kha'Zix somewhat showing as a better FP than Kennen.


To be fair this is old Kha'Zix right? Not as strong on current patch which is what they should be playing on in Week 2 or 3 (unless they're actually playing on 3.8 but that would be nuts).
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