• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:20
CET 12:20
KST 20:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win1Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25
StarCraft 2
General
Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Bring back your lost lover Australia+27734009912
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1770 users

[NA LCS] Summer Super Week 1 - Page 105

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 181 Next
If you have any questions you want to ask C9 Meteos, PM Neo in the next 24 hours. Interview will be conducted this weekend.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#2081
On June 14 2013 09:43 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:39 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:32 daSilvaz wrote:
Like i said yesterday, and got called a hater, TSM really sub par team, just like every other in NA except for C9 atm.

zzz, not even.

Please prove me wrong...oh wait u cant. When was the last time they won a game vs a good team outside of NA? Never?

You could say that about any NA team; its not TSM specific... Zzzzz
Read more closelly

Please dont try to be the smart one here. We all know that NA is lagging behind.
But that doesn;t mean you cant enjoy these games in the LCS.
Terran
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2082
if you think you are original for realisng that TSM despite winning the Spring split is not as good as EU/KR/CN teams you are more delusional that Chauster and in his infamous Blue side strats interview.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2083
On June 14 2013 09:43 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:39 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:32 daSilvaz wrote:
Like i said yesterday, and got called a hater, TSM really sub par team, just like every other in NA except for C9 atm.

zzz, not even.

Please prove me wrong...oh wait u cant. When was the last time they won a game vs a good team outside of NA? Never?

You could say that about any NA team; its not TSM specific... Zzzzz
Read more closelly

C9 even less international experience than rest of NA.
Just cuz they can copy Korea, doesn't mean they can compete with them. (watch TSM v Blaze in MLG in S2). TSM copied blaze, destroyed every NA team; but when it came to vs Blaze they got their butts handed to them.
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2084
Slight aside, can someone double check for me that Meteos has 0 deaths so far after 3 games?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2085
On June 14 2013 09:44 phathom321 wrote:
Is it just me or does Mancloud's haircut make him look exactly like Nintendude?

NDX is chubbier. mandatory has a longer face.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2086
On June 14 2013 09:45 Kinie wrote:
Slight aside, can someone double check for me that Meteos has 0 deaths so far after 3 games?

He died once to TSM yesterday.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 00:46:14
June 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#2087
On June 14 2013 09:45 Kinie wrote:
Slight aside, can someone double check for me that Meteos has 0 deaths so far after 3 games?

He's died once in TSM match; he's such a feeder.

EDIT:sniped by neo; karma's a bitch
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#2088
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#2089
On June 14 2013 09:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:43 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:39 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:32 daSilvaz wrote:
Like i said yesterday, and got called a hater, TSM really sub par team, just like every other in NA except for C9 atm.

zzz, not even.

Please prove me wrong...oh wait u cant. When was the last time they won a game vs a good team outside of NA? Never?

You could say that about any NA team; its not TSM specific... Zzzzz
Read more closelly
By your logic, Quantic hasn't won anything internationally either. You have no problem ranking them up high though Q_Q


They win the hearts & minds of all those who wish to do dat Kor-ean thing majigger dat other Kor-eans do.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 14 2013 00:48 GMT
#2090
On June 14 2013 09:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:45 Kinie wrote:
Slight aside, can someone double check for me that Meteos has 0 deaths so far after 3 games?

He died once to TSM yesterday.


Still, only 1 death in 3 matches seems good, especially when he's the jungler and has like 5-10 assists per game, not counting his kills.

Also, is it just me, or is Draven a lot worse than the NA pro players think he is?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 14 2013 00:48 GMT
#2091
Gogo Guitar~ I have faith that VES can take it
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#2092
On June 14 2013 09:48 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 14 2013 09:45 Kinie wrote:
Slight aside, can someone double check for me that Meteos has 0 deaths so far after 3 games?

He died once to TSM yesterday.


Still, only 1 death in 3 matches seems good, especially when he's the jungler and has like 5-10 assists per game, not counting his kills.

Also, is it just me, or is Draven a lot worse than the NA pro players think he is?

Draven is, IMO, really sick in lane. Some champs just instantly lose, and hes usually a safe pick.

Meteos also didn't die once during the qualifiers, btw
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#2093
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO

I agree with this completely. This LCS spring split is stupidly tight. Opening superweek is pretty brutal too. Hopefully this is a tight race throughout the split.

Hmmm; I don't remember ever seeing Bloodwater's Thresh; Not sure if I like the thresh+trist lane combo.
liftlift > tsm
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#2094
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO

Yeah, thats what I think after 2 days of LCS too.
I feel like anyone can beat anyone now in NA LCS right now and its a good thing. Teams need to put up alot of work from now on if they want to stay on the top.
Terran
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
June 14 2013 00:50 GMT
#2095
lol @ kayle mary
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2096
On June 14 2013 09:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 09:48 Kinie wrote:
Also, is it just me, or is Draven a lot worse than the NA pro players think he is?

Draven is, IMO, really sick in lane. Some champs just instantly lose, and hes usually a safe pick.

Meteos also didn't die once during the qualifiers, btw


I'm willing to concede that Draven's great in the early/lane section of the game, but the moment it shifts to mid or late he just seems so useless. I feel like I'd rather have a champ like Varus for ADC as he seems pretty relevant in all phases.
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2097
Guitar, who would you say has stepped up the most this super week so far in terms of the difference from practice to now? Maple st. had some pretty sweet outplays
The enemy's throne is down
Aezo-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada378 Posts
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2098
On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO


I definitely agree with this, and I'm happy about it. Makes it much more exciting not knowing which teams will make the playoffs / which teams will win each week. Also will make the games much more relevant because if 2nd-8th place are all so close the regular season doesn't become meaningless like some people were complaining about after spring playoffs.

Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 00:54:18
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2099
I really like VES team comp, except for Jarvan, I feel like Naut woulda been a lot better here, but hey, J4 ganks mid really well and Kayle had good gank support if they want to try to shut down Kha.

Draven Nami is super strong 2v2 I think they can even bully a thresh lane.

What you are saying about Draven is true, however both the TSM comp and now this comp are built for him. Kayle/Yorick ult combined with Kennen ult allow him to get up in their grill even in a 5v5, a lot of people write off late game Draven's damage because of his inability to survive but when you have ults like this to protect him it could work.

And yea a lot of Draven lanes are really one sided is also a nice feature.
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2100
On June 14 2013 09:50 lilwisper wrote:
lol @ kayle mary

I dont get it.
Off-season = best season
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 181 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
RotterdaM480
ComeBackTV 477
WardiTV390
IndyStarCraft 107
Rex93
3DClanTV 64
BRAT_OK 59
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 480
SortOf 207
IndyStarCraft 107
Rex 93
BRAT_OK 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4314
Rain 2381
Flash 2338
GuemChi 1455
Hyuk 942
Jaedong 567
Soma 478
Mini 352
BeSt 345
Stork 326
[ Show more ]
Mong 259
Hyun 257
ZerO 257
Light 216
Snow 191
Larva 182
JulyZerg 153
Killer 137
EffOrt 110
hero 75
Rush 68
Dewaltoss 67
Noble 53
Backho 45
Shuttle 42
Hm[arnc] 41
ggaemo 36
Sacsri 30
ToSsGirL 27
[sc1f]eonzerg 26
HiyA 22
zelot 21
soO 21
Sea.KH 19
GoRush 16
Icarus 16
Free 15
Bale 12
SilentControl 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 4
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Gorgc4178
Fuzer 165
XcaliburYe97
NeuroSwarm83
Counter-Strike
zeus1049
x6flipin312
allub108
Other Games
singsing1765
Liquid`RaSZi998
olofmeister852
B2W.Neo645
Sick251
crisheroes242
Pyrionflax163
Mew2King85
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1075
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 17
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota232
League of Legends
• Nemesis7031
• Lourlo1030
• Stunt499
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
2h 41m
PiGosaur Cup
13h 41m
Replay Cast
21h 41m
RongYI Cup
23h 41m
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 21h
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.