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On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them.
You still dont get it do you? Just looked at previous LCS LR thread. We bash the fuk out of NA scene. We know that they are behind compare to other regions. Thats why noone is interesting to talk about that anymore.
You are late to the NA bashing party. We did plenty of that already in the spring LCS already.
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TSM hype is more of an inside joke than anything else, even amongst a lot of their fans.
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On June 14 2013 10:04 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:01 Slusher wrote:On June 14 2013 10:00 daSilvaz wrote:On June 14 2013 09:57 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them. I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself. I dont follow let me describe how your original post read to me. "I tried to tell you guys TSM wasn't that good, but you guys were too dumb to realize it and called me an idiot." mabye not what you meant, thats what I read. That was just a repsonse to some1 yesteday that just called me a hater, when its not the case at all tbh. I might have worded it bad, what i meant was that ppl hype TSM so much not only here but all over the place when they arent any diferent from any of the other top NA teams
How is it hyping TSM too much when they won last split in a decisive fashion? I honestly don't get where you're coming from here.
And we're strictly speaking about NA. No need to bring in other regions into this discussion since the scope is NA LCS.
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So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial?
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On June 14 2013 10:04 Haasts wrote:
Where was Vileroze when Cris got jumped? Kayle ult would have done a lot of work there.
AFK Top Lane. Got back to mid after mandatory got a triple.
On June 14 2013 10:05 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Kha'Zix somewhat showing as a better FP than Kennen. To be fair this is old Kha'Zix right? Not as strong on current patch which is what they should be playing on in Week 2 or 3 (unless they're actually playing on 3.8 but that would be nuts).
This is still 3.7. It's not the Live patch.
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On June 14 2013 09:59 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 09:56 StarStruck wrote:On June 14 2013 09:46 gtrsrs wrote:
This may be hard to swallow but I think all of the NA teams are fairly close in skill
Even MRN complexity and some of the amateur teams like summon and wazabi are all pretty close in skill. We can take a game off TSM any given day, we can crush clg, we can get rolled by c9 and c9 can lose to coast or vulcun. Everyone wants to power rank every team but I honestly believe the NA scene is just really tight right now. If we close out the week 4-1 I won't feel like we are da bes tim na and if we finish 1-4 I won't be mad because they'll all probably be close games. No team should be ashamed of losses right now. Na scene pretty stronk, pretty even IMO NA strong? Teams can lose or win on any given day? I'm not so sure about your last point. Sometimes it's difficult to watch but we get interesting games, but compared to other regions. These guys could get bodied pretty hard. With more looks it might actually help them with how they play certain heroes to improve much more. NA is probably weaker as a whole than EU/KR/CN. There are some stand out SEA teams but I'm sure plenty of NA teams could take down plenty of SEA teams (maybe even TPA/TPS since they've kinda fell from grace but who knows...that's what happened last year too lol). I think top tier NA teams could easily take games, and even a series, off top tier EU and CN teams. The discussion shouldn't even be, "NA is so behind," it should be, "everyone is so behind the Koreans." But that's just imo.
I don't really think there's an argument against that. I'd personally like to see more scrimmages between all the scenes compared to what we get. I mean it's one thing to watch let's say the Koreans play and learn from it. It's an entirely different thing to play against them and execute.
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On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial?
He's honestly up there with Patoy. Xpecial still king and in a tier of his own.
Patoy and BloodWater don't have much branding thus don't get much recognition but imo, all three are very good, Xpecial edging out the other two by a bit because of years of experience.
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I think Nasus is what wrecked VES plan. He delayed the top tower push by a lot.
It's so hard to shove into Nasus.
On June 14 2013 10:07 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial? He's honestly up there with Patoy. Xpecial still king and in a tier of his own. Patoy and BloodWater don't have much branding thus don't get much recognition but imo, all three are very good, Xpecial edging out the other two by a bit because of years of experience.
Xpecial knows how to play out of lane/warding a bit better than patoy and bloodwater; but mechanically/play making ability I edge patoy and bloodwater a slight above xpecial.
On June 14 2013 10:08 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial? I hear him called Godwater a lot. I think he's really good. But personally I like Daydreamin a bit better than him since Daydreamin plays some crazy ass supports and has the best Blitzcrank in NA ezpz. Bloodwater is more inconsistent than Daydreamin, patoy, and Xpecial imoimo but to be fair Bloodwater also shot calls on his team so he has more of a work load than the other top tier NA supports.
Daydreamin meshes really well with don'tmashme; i dunno if i'd put him on par with bloodwater/patoy/xpecial.
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On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial?
I hear him called Godwater a lot.
I think he's really good. But personally I like Daydreamin a bit better than him since Daydreamin plays some crazy ass supports and has the best Blitzcrank in NA ezpz. Bloodwater is more inconsistent than Daydreamin, patoy, and Xpecial imoimo but to be fair Bloodwater also shot calls on his team so he has more of a work load than the other top tier NA supports.
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VES also had a weird rotation that put Cris behind in farm and let mancloud catch up in farm.
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What happened to the CLG.EU team? I haven't followed league since TPA won worlds.
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On June 14 2013 10:08 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Nasus is what wrecked VES plan. He delayed the top tower push by a lot.
It's so hard to shove into Nasus.
Vulcan refusing to let them 2v2 was a pretty good play also.
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On June 14 2013 10:07 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial? He's honestly up there with Patoy. Xpecial still king and in a tier of his own. Patoy and BloodWater don't have much branding thus don't get much recognition but imo, all three are very good, Xpecial edging out the other two by a bit because of years of experience.
You rate Xpecial quite highly. I want to say Patoy is better but I guess Xpecial has been playing really well lately.
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On June 14 2013 10:07 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial? He's honestly up there with Patoy. Xpecial still king and in a tier of his own. Patoy and BloodWater don't have much branding thus don't get much recognition but imo, all three are very good, Xpecial edging out the other two by a bit because of years of experience.
Edward>>>>xpecial>bloodwater/patoy>>rest
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On June 14 2013 10:09 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the CLG.EU team? I haven't followed league since TPA won worlds.
They are EG now and play in the EU LCS.
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On June 14 2013 10:06 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:04 daSilvaz wrote:On June 14 2013 10:01 Slusher wrote:On June 14 2013 10:00 daSilvaz wrote:On June 14 2013 09:57 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On June 14 2013 09:52 daSilvaz wrote:
Cba to quote so many ppl so, dont be so touchy coz i said NA was bad, i actually like the scene the most and was even rooting for them in all stars. Truth is, for the talent they posess and the time they are in the scene, all of those teams should be much better. And for C9, they are inpressing not only me im sure and even tho they have no international xp, neither did M5 before their 1st iem win and yet ppl also hyped them. I think one of the issues is that your first post was you semi-martyring yourself. I dont follow let me describe how your original post read to me. "I tried to tell you guys TSM wasn't that good, but you guys were too dumb to realize it and called me an idiot." mabye not what you meant, thats what I read. That was just a repsonse to some1 yesteday that just called me a hater, when its not the case at all tbh. I might have worded it bad, what i meant was that ppl hype TSM so much not only here but all over the place when they arent any diferent from any of the other top NA teams How is it hyping TSM too much when they won last split in a decisive fashion? I honestly don't get where you're coming from here. And we're strictly speaking about NA. No need to bring in other regions into this discussion since the scope is NA LCS.
Decisive? rofl
They werent even close to Curse or DIgnitas till they started playing like shit towards the end of the split. Even Reginald said it in an interview. Truth is ppl hype TSM way too much for what they are worth.
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On June 14 2013 10:08 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:06 Letmelose wrote:
So how is BloodWater rated compared to other support players such as Patoy, and Xpecial? I hear him called Godwater a lot. I think he's really good. But personally I like Daydreamin a bit better than him since Daydreamin plays some crazy ass supports and was the best Blitzcrank in NA ezpz. Bloodwater is more inconsistent than Daydreamin, patoy, and Xpecial imoimo but to be fair Bloodwater also shot calls on his team so he has more of a work load than the other top tier NA supports.
ftfy
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On June 14 2013 10:09 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the CLG.EU team? I haven't followed league since TPA won worlds.
Evil Geniuses bought them out.
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that dive was terrible lol
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On June 14 2013 10:10 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 10:09 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the CLG.EU team? I haven't followed league since TPA won worlds. Evil Geniuses bought them out.
EG Curse kicks in; and they suck now. + Show Spoiler +
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