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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 27 2013 06:01 GMT
#981
On April 27 2013 14:53 nosliw wrote:
recommended games for CLG vs Vulcun?



Two choices:

All three, because it's a build up
or
Only third game for the first 20 or so minutes.
SpectreSOF
Profile Joined July 2010
United States74 Posts
April 27 2013 06:01 GMT
#982
Its so painful being a CLG fan right now.

Maybe this will finally serve as the wake-up call CLG desperately needs for them to wake up and realize they need to run a teamcomp where its not just doublelift or link providing ALL the threats on the team.

HSGG and Chauster need to start finding more bruiser-like champions that can both tank and deal out damage. It was clear to anyone with eyes in that highlighted dragon fight from game 3 where Vulcan's Mid and Irelia were able to collapse on Double and Link that CLG just ceased to even be even a remote threat once those two players died.
The road to victory is a path paved with blood and corpses
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 27 2013 06:02 GMT
#983
On April 27 2013 14:48 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 13:48 Sufficiency wrote:
They can't. HSGG basically can't play anything else beside Malphite and Shen.


90% of your posts are just bashing Hotshot. Give it a rest yo.

He plays smart, he plays safe, he does his job.


hmm, not too sure if serious or just don't frequent the LoL subforums enough.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
April 27 2013 06:24 GMT
#984
Hotshot is a problem for CLG and normally doesn't pull his weight. But in that series the rest of the team played so much worse than normal he wasn't the reason they lost the series.
日本語が分かりますか
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
April 27 2013 06:30 GMT
#985
According to doublelift's twitter, nerves and pressure really got to CLG and made them play worse.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
April 27 2013 06:31 GMT
#986
On April 27 2013 13:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Maybe calling Link and DL terrible is too much of an exaggeration. But DL hasn't really impressed me lately, but it's entirely possible that it's simply cause CLG as a whole is very bleh atm. Link has great games on occasion, but honestly I can't call him better than Regi/Scarra/Mancould, etc... He's average/equal at best.

Aphro just isn't a support player and it shows. Chauster is a fucking terrible jungler. He did okay when Lee Sin was super strong, but after all the Lee Sin nerfs he's just not good. HSGG has good games now and then, but his playstyle is just not suited to S3 meta and he hasn't adapted at all.

Sums up my opinions on CLG pretty much.

Plus the only reason I supported them was due to jiji and Saint. With them gone.... plus I dislike Doublelift.(his character - not due his ingame skills etc).
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#987
This feels as if Sean Bean just died. Twice.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 07:10:50
April 27 2013 07:00 GMT
#988
Best part about Hotshot is that on top of playing supporty champions, he builds Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage on like everyone (against an Irelia? sure, why not!), so the extent of his plays consist of him ulting away from Vulcun, because he built in such a way it's literally impossible for him to do anything 1v1. I think the part where he was the only one left on CLG near dragon and Zuna kept autoing him despite being super low was hilarious. Or when Sycho Sid went "Gee, Hotshot is actually trying to fight me, I bet someone is coming" and backed away.

To me it seems like one massive negative feedback loop where Hotshot playing passive crap means Chauster tends to do horrible in the jungle, while Doublelift is busy off farming in a corner somewhere because he's always conscious of the fact he has to be obliterating the enemy team. I think Aphro and Link are probably the least problematic part of the team. Not to say either of them is doing great, but they seem to be doing okay given what else is going on...
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 27 2013 07:17 GMT
#989
Also, what on earth is that imaqtpie build on ezrael in game 3!??!

The epic 0 dmg build
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 07:23:49
April 27 2013 07:21 GMT
#990
being a little unfair to hotshot

game 2 he did 1v1 tristana once or twice.

chauster's jungle is just terrible though. like, i dont even see any coherent ganking paths with his lee. actually, i didnt see ganks period.

i'm not 100% sure either jungler knew how to play lee sin (okay, i know chauster played him s2 and stuff, but still he was just bad).
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 27 2013 07:35 GMT
#991
On April 27 2013 15:01 SpectreSOF wrote:
Its so painful being a CLG fan right now.

Maybe this will finally serve as the wake-up call CLG desperately needs for them to wake up and realize they need to run a teamcomp where its not just doublelift or link providing ALL the threats on the team.

HSGG and Chauster need to start finding more bruiser-like champions that can both tank and deal out damage. It was clear to anyone with eyes in that highlighted dragon fight from game 3 where Vulcan's Mid and Irelia were able to collapse on Double and Link that CLG just ceased to even be even a remote threat once those two players died.


How many times have CLG fans said "Maybe this time they will wake up?" I have been done with them since Saint left. I just root for DL and hope he changes teams.
Never Knows Best.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
April 27 2013 07:40 GMT
#992
On April 27 2013 16:17 Beyonder wrote:
Also, what on earth is that imaqtpie build on ezrael in game 3!??!

The epic 0 dmg build


Good poke. It worked in game 2.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 07:55:33
April 27 2013 07:55 GMT
#993
On April 27 2013 13:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 13:33 Ryuu314 wrote:
I honestly feel that CLG would be doing much better if they stopped being so stubborn about playing the 4-protects-1 comp.


They can't. HSGG basically can't play anything else beside Malphite and Shen.

Have you forgotten when HSGG's Jax/Nid was soaking bans every game? His Cho also does quite a decent amount of damage.

HSGG has the ability to play carries/damage dealing bruisers. Just for some unknown reason, he and the rest of CLG have gotten it into their heads that they absolutely can't play anything other than 4-protect-1 comps, when it clearly does not work. They need to get their heads out of their asses and have HS start practicing more Jax or other damage dealing bruisers, or at least adapting. I know the Asian scenes (especially Chinese scene) pick up Malph a decent amount with quite a lot of success; if HSGG is absolutely 100% set on having Malph in his champ pool he should learn from the Chinese teams. Link needs to get his other AP carries to his Syndra-level of play or simply just play more Syndra.

Aphro and Chauster just have to practice more or smth 'cause they're imo the weakest links on CLG right now. Chauster more so than Aphromoo.
On April 27 2013 16:17 Beyonder wrote:
Also, what on earth is that imaqtpie build on ezrael in game 3!??!

The epic 0 dmg build

Blue build #1 build.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 27 2013 08:26 GMT
#994
OMG couldn't hold myself back from spoilering, time to throw my clg mouse in the trashcan!
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 09:03:17
April 27 2013 09:02 GMT
#995
On April 27 2013 13:27 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 13:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 27 2013 13:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 27 2013 13:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 27 2013 12:56 Nitan wrote:
On April 27 2013 12:52 Slow Motion wrote:
As a Saint fan who used to be a CLG fan before he got kicked, I LOVE the jungle problems CLG is having. Remember CLG could have had the ultimate allstar team of Voyboy, Saint, Jiji/Link, Doublelift, and Chauster.


Given how Curse has been playing this team is less appealing than it used to be.

It's alright, I'm a Browns fan, I'm used to disappointment.

I'm sorry.

It's been good training on how to not just be a fair weather fan.

As an Eagles fan, I feel your pain.

Though a different sport, as a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, I feel both of your pains.
Oh well. Gogo summer split #1
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 10:35:22
April 27 2013 09:19 GMT
#996
Just watched GGU vs. Dignitas - great play by GGU, good to see them finally capitalize on their leads consistently. Very deserved win. Kiwikid looked pretty weak (or was it just ZionSpartan being great?) yesterday.

On to watch Vulcun vs. CLG now. Friend already spoiled results for me, but said the games were fairly ok. For promotion games, Jiji to eliminate CLG from Summer Season? Yes please!

Edit: Finally a team recognizing picking a "carry" top lane vs CLG works wonders. You get a free lane to farm against Hotshot and a very good option to deal with DLift lategame (though by now, I'm sure DLift is overrated - he, again, did nothing throughout the whole series. Mechanics can only get you that far if you consistently donate Baron to the opposing team because you're bot lane when you have no business being there). Link was the only player on CLG really showing up throughout those games - showcased by Vulcun rather focusing their attentions on him unless they catch DLift mispositioned (which did happen frequently, though).
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
April 27 2013 09:43 GMT
#997
Don't know what Chauster does in the jungle. Does he only do one gank per game?
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
April 27 2013 10:06 GMT
#998
Wow dignitas lost to GGU , that was really really unexpected, even though dig hasn't been at their best lately. Also it says 1:1 for the clg match. Did they only play 2 matches or is it a mistype?
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 10:30:00
April 27 2013 10:26 GMT
#999
On April 27 2013 16:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 13:48 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 27 2013 13:33 Ryuu314 wrote:
I honestly feel that CLG would be doing much better if they stopped being so stubborn about playing the 4-protects-1 comp.


They can't. HSGG basically can't play anything else beside Malphite and Shen.

Have you forgotten when HSGG's Jax/Nid was soaking bans every game? His Cho also does quite a decent amount of damage.

HSGG has the ability to play carries/damage dealing bruisers. Just for some unknown reason, he and the rest of CLG have gotten it into their heads that they absolutely can't play anything other than 4-protect-1 comps, when it clearly does not work. They need to get their heads out of their asses and have HS start practicing more Jax or other damage dealing bruisers, or at least adapting. I know the Asian scenes (especially Chinese scene) pick up Malph a decent amount with quite a lot of success; if HSGG is absolutely 100% set on having Malph in his champ pool he should learn from the Chinese teams. Link needs to get his other AP carries to his Syndra-level of play or simply just play more Syndra.

Aphro and Chauster just have to practice more or smth 'cause they're imo the weakest links on CLG right now. Chauster more so than Aphromoo.

I only play Lol for like 6 months and have no idea what happened earlier, but chauster should be going back to sup. I dont know what all the hotshotgg bashing is about though:
interview
He exactly knows what the problem is, dlift not carrying so hard anymore so he is expected to dominate his lane which is not his approach to top laning (unlike voyboy).
With the Dlife/chauster combo they would have a very strong bot lane again, allowing him to go back to his supportive play style more successfully. link/dlife as ad/ap carry sounds good to me.
They just need a decent jungler t.t
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 27 2013 10:38 GMT
#1000
On April 27 2013 19:26 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 16:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 27 2013 13:48 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 27 2013 13:33 Ryuu314 wrote:
I honestly feel that CLG would be doing much better if they stopped being so stubborn about playing the 4-protects-1 comp.


They can't. HSGG basically can't play anything else beside Malphite and Shen.

Have you forgotten when HSGG's Jax/Nid was soaking bans every game? His Cho also does quite a decent amount of damage.

HSGG has the ability to play carries/damage dealing bruisers. Just for some unknown reason, he and the rest of CLG have gotten it into their heads that they absolutely can't play anything other than 4-protect-1 comps, when it clearly does not work. They need to get their heads out of their asses and have HS start practicing more Jax or other damage dealing bruisers, or at least adapting. I know the Asian scenes (especially Chinese scene) pick up Malph a decent amount with quite a lot of success; if HSGG is absolutely 100% set on having Malph in his champ pool he should learn from the Chinese teams. Link needs to get his other AP carries to his Syndra-level of play or simply just play more Syndra.

Aphro and Chauster just have to practice more or smth 'cause they're imo the weakest links on CLG right now. Chauster more so than Aphromoo.

I only play Lol for like 6 months and have no idea what happened earlier, but chauster should be going back to sup. I dont know what all the hotshotgg bashing is about though:
interview
He exactly knows what the problem is, dlift not carrying so hard anymore so he is expected to dominate his lane which is not his approach to top laning (unlike voyboy).
With the Dlife/chauster combo they would have a very strong bot lane again, allowing him to go back to his supportive play style more successfully. link/dlife as ad/ap carry sounds good to me.
They just need a decent jungler t.t

The thing is, the way Hotshot plays is detrimental to the team. It forces everybody else to play better because Hotshot has barely any impact on the game. "Good enough" isn't good enough. It's a similar situation to the Chaox/WT TSM thing. Getting rid of Chaox for WT lets TSM open their playbook and be more dynamic as a team. When people play CLG, they know exactly what to expect and exactly how to stop it. CLG isn't so much better than the scene anymore that they can win purely on talent.
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