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aAa disqualified from EU LCS due to lack of subs
End-of-game stats are now live
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 15:18:12
April 28 2013 15:17 GMT
#1221
Well that was only 10k gold too late...

Edit: spoke too soon apparently :3
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 28 2013 15:17 GMT
#1222
On April 29 2013 00:15 Silvanel wrote:
Yet only 32 champs were selected more than 10 times, some of them almost always Elise = 50 bans and 34 picks, Tresh 42 bans and 43 picks. And among the 49 rest slected most of champs are pretty low like , panth -1 pick, gp 1pick, riven 1-pick vlad 1-pick, trynda-1ban no picks....sivier 1 pick, rengar 1-pick morgana 1-pick, LebLanc 1-pick ,garen 1-pick, corki 1-pick, and so on....

In my book 32/110 is super low. Consider that there are 6 bans and 10 picks and ONLY 32 champs were commonly involved. There were 112 games played....

PS.DATA for LCS EU.


That's actually normal.Think about it.There can't really be more than 6/7 optimal champs for each role.That makes 35 at most.With so few bans you can't really ban all of em so you just pick one of those.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 28 2013 15:18 GMT
#1223
Gambit Gaming are good at this game
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 28 2013 15:18 GMT
#1224
damn if alex was there when diamond and genja engaged, still a sick play from him afterwards.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 28 2013 15:19 GMT
#1225
Despite everything that happened in this game. Gambit is still very much in this.
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 15:20:24
April 28 2013 15:19 GMT
#1226
that soaz ...

I wish Alex had been just a liiittle bit more fed when he went for that, he could have killed everyone.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 28 2013 15:20 GMT
#1227
I dont think diamond is playing mumu right, he keeps waiting for the perfect curse the entire game, just little relevancy.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 28 2013 15:20 GMT
#1228
On April 29 2013 00:20 IshinShishi wrote:
I dont think diamond is playing mumu right, he keeps waiting for the perfect curse the entire game, just little relevancy.

It just takes one, though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 28 2013 15:21 GMT
#1229
gambit gave away too much, it's like they thought they would win in the late game no matter what, this game needed a little gambling. :D
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 28 2013 15:22 GMT
#1230
Dat facecheck..
Terran
Icysoul
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada254 Posts
April 28 2013 15:22 GMT
#1231
people need to start treating zed like malzahar and rush qss. Otherwise, we'll just have ppl wrongly wisecracking with "Zed is balanced".
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 28 2013 15:22 GMT
#1232
On April 29 2013 00:21 IshinShishi wrote:
gambit gave away too much, it's like they thought they would win in the late game no matter what, this game needed a little gambling. :D

Once you gave up a bit too much. You can not gamble anymore .
Terran
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
April 28 2013 15:23 GMT
#1233
On April 29 2013 00:15 Silvanel wrote:
Yet only 32 champs were selected more than 10 times, some of them almost always Elise = 50 bans and 34 picks, Tresh 42 bans and 43 picks. And among the 49 rest slected most of champs are pretty low like , panth -1 pick, gp 1pick, riven 1-pick vlad 1-pick, trynda-1ban no picks....sivier 1 pick, rengar 1-pick morgana 1-pick, LebLanc 1-pick ,garen 1-pick, corki 1-pick, and so on....

In my book 32/110 is super low. Consider that there are 6 bans and 10 picks and ONLY 32 champs were commonly involved. There were 112 games played....

PS.DATA for LCS EU.

Edit:
Elise banned/picked in 75% of games.
Jarvan 59,8%
Kha 58,9%
Nasus 49,1%
Renekton 50%
Shen 77,7%
Sona 50%
Tresh 67,9%
Xin 52%

Yes same champs are played over and over again.

I really don't know how many more champs you think can be played.

6.5 champs per role is kind of a lot to be picked more than 10 times. Also, you have to expect some degree of metagaming with only 8 teams per region. It's more player-specific than champ specific; each player is probably only going to play about 5 champs at a high level.

There are also differences if you look between NA/EU/KR (I'm not well versed on the Chinese or SEA scene).

I think there are a lot of options.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 28 2013 15:24 GMT
#1234
On April 29 2013 00:22 Icysoul wrote:
people need to start treating zed like malzahar and rush qss. Otherwise, we'll just have ppl wrongly wisecracking with "Zed is balanced".

Zed pops people just fine even without his ult, especially if they spend 1.5k on magic resistance.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 28 2013 15:25 GMT
#1235
On April 29 2013 00:15 Silvanel wrote:
Yet only 32 champs were selected more than 10 times, some of them almost always Elise = 50 bans and 34 picks, Tresh 42 bans and 43 picks. And among the 49 rest slected most of champs are pretty low like , panth -1 pick, gp 1pick, riven 1-pick vlad 1-pick, trynda-1ban no picks....sivier 1 pick, rengar 1-pick morgana 1-pick, LebLanc 1-pick ,garen 1-pick, corki 1-pick, and so on....

In my book 32/110 is super low. Consider that there are 6 bans and 10 picks and ONLY 32 champs were commonly involved. There were 112 games played....

PS.DATA for LCS EU.

Edit:
Elise banned/picked in 75% of games.
Jarvan 59,8%
Kha 58,9%
Nasus 49,1%
Renekton 50%
Shen 77,7%
Sona 50%
Tresh 67,9%
Xin 52%

Yes same champs are played over and over again.


I'd argue that it's more the fault of the community and players rather than riot. They don't like to experiment often (save for a few). I think there are a lot more champions that are viable, people just don't want to make them work.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 28 2013 15:27 GMT
#1236
Lol Fnatic playing even more cautios than EG. That nexus was so easy to finish off.
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 28 2013 15:27 GMT
#1237
On April 29 2013 00:27 Redox wrote:
Lol Fnatic playing even more cautios than EG. That nexus was so easy to finish off.

Against a kha'zix fnatic could throw this oh so easily so better safe than sorry.
Glorious SEA doto
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 28 2013 15:29 GMT
#1238
EDWARDS GOES FULL XAIOXAIO.
Glorious SEA doto
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 28 2013 15:29 GMT
#1239
On April 29 2013 00:12 nojitosunrise wrote:
Zed is a balanced champion

whining on zed when gg has khazix, elise and mf is kinda sad
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 28 2013 15:29 GMT
#1240
XIAOXIAO PLAYS
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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