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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gsiQ0.png) Saturday, Apr 13 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LUFaeZb.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BUBCHaR.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GsRB0le.png) Gambit Gaming (16-4) DragonBorns (4-16)16:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Gambit vs DB
Bans:
Draven Thresh
Jarvan IV Elise
Kayle Nasus
Picks:
Shen Zed / Sona
Miss Fortune / Kha'Zix Udyr / Varus
Volibear / Lulu Orianna
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9YA9ffr.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iAbimhu.png) Evil Geniuses (11-10) Fnatic (17-4)17:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +EG vs Fnatic
Bans:
Kassadin Lux
Kha'Zix Renekton
Kennen Thresh
Picks:
Zed Varus / Nasus
Leona / Twisted Fate Nunu / Shen
Miss Fortune / Volibear Katarina
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A9bJ8vA.png) against All authority (8-13) Gambit Gaming (16-4)18:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +aAa vs Gambit
Bans:
Kha'Zix Jarvan IV
Zed Diana
Nasus Varus
Picks:
Thresh Elise / Shen
Miss Fortune / Renekton Lulu / Ezreal
Volibear / Orianna Karthus
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jemufIF.png) GIANTS! Gaming (6-14) DragonBorns (4-16)19:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Giants vs DB
Bans:
Draven Kennen
Kayle Kassadin
Thresh Elise
Picks:
Jarvan IV Zed / Kha'Zix
Varus / Lulu Nasus / Miss Fortune
Diana / Shen Sona
Sunday, Apr 14 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) GIANTS! Gaming (6-14) Evil Geniuses (11-10)16:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Giants vs EG
Bans:
Lux Kha'Zix
Zed Kassadin
Thresh Elise
Picks:
Twisted Fate Shen / Leona
Jarvan IV / Kennen Volibear / Varus
Rumble / Zyra Ahri
Fnatic vs DB
Bans:
Lux Leona
Draven Elise
Thresh Twisted Fate
Picks:
Zed Jarvan IV / Kha'Zix
Nocturne / Zyra Kayle / Miss Fortune
Twitch / Jayce Malphite
Giants vs aAa
Bans:
Thresh Kennen
Renekton Kha'Zix
Shen Elise
Picks:
Jarvan IV Diana / Zyra
Sona / Varus Nasus / Vayne
Olaf / Twisted Fate Kayle
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2VPM8RE.png) Gambit Gaming (16-4) SK Gaming (13-9)19:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Gambit vs SK
Bans:
Fizz Renekton
Varus Shen
Miss Fortune Kha'Zix
Picks:
Thresh Elise / Jarvan IV
Nasus / Caitlyn Rumble / Ashe
Zed / Rengar Twisted Fate
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(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
EG vs Fnatic + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend EG vs Fnatic Week 9?Yes (29) 81% No (4) 11% If you have time (3) 8% 36 total votes Your vote: Recommend EG vs Fnatic Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
aAa vs Gamibt + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend aAa vs Gambit Week 9?Yes (20) 91% No (1) 5% If you have time (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend aAa vs Gambit Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Giants vs DB + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9?No (5) 83% If you have time (1) 17% Yes (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Giants vs EG + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Giants vs EG Week 9?Yes (15) 83% No (2) 11% If you have time (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs EG Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Fnatic vs DB + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs DB Week 9?If you have time (6) 60% No (3) 30% Yes (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs DB Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Giants vs aAa + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Giants vs aAa Week 9?If you have time (5) 63% No (3) 38% Yes (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs aAa Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Gambit vs SK + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Gambit vs SK Week 9?Yes (12) 80% No (3) 20% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Gambit vs SK Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Gambit and Dragonborns nearly mirror in stats ! just a minor switch between win/lose and done !
And that's all the possitive news for Dragonborns, they might get a shot of winning vs GIANTS but the rest of the weekend looks grim for them.
Fnatic vs EG should be good, and possibly Gambit vs SK though that might turn into a stomp for Gambit.
Tbh not the best matchups this weekend.
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Are the teams ranked somewhere? 1st-last?
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1. Fnatic 17-4
2. Gambit Gaming 16-4
3. SK Gaming 13-9
4. Evil Geniuses 11-10
5. Copenhagen Wolves 9-14
6. against All authority 8-13
7. GIANTS! Gaming 6-14
8. DragonBorns 4-16
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A bit of a surprise from the Promotion Qualifiers - Millenium is out and pretty much frakked their whole Season 3. They lost to Sinners & eSuba in the Go4LoL LCS Qualifiers and now they lost in the 1st round to Dexter in the Ranked Qualifier which was their last chance.
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On April 12 2013 21:41 Dan HH wrote:
A bit of a surprise from the Promotion Qualifiers - Millenium is out and pretty much frakked their whole Season 3. They lost to Sinners & eSuba in the Go4LoL LCS Qualifiers and now they lost in the 1st round to Dexter in the Ranked Qualifier which was their last chance.
Think they're just down 0-1 atm.
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They still have a chance if they can get top 4 in ranked 5s. Don't know when the deadline to that is though.
edit: wow, didn't think they were happening already. too bad for millenium.
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On April 12 2013 22:38 Wrag wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 21:41 Dan HH wrote:
A bit of a surprise from the Promotion Qualifiers - Millenium is out and pretty much frakked their whole Season 3. They lost to Sinners & eSuba in the Go4LoL LCS Qualifiers and now they lost in the 1st round to Dexter in the Ranked Qualifier which was their last chance. Think they're just down 0-1 atm.
They were 0-2 and out when I posted, you were probably watching their rebroadcast on [M]TV2. It wasn't streamed live.
On April 12 2013 23:30 JBright wrote:
They still have a chance if they can get top 4 in ranked 5s. Don't know when the deadline to that is though.
This was the Ranked qualifier. It's done, they're completely out with high chances of disbanding.
Challenger teams that make it to the up&down are: MYM, ATN, Sinners, Samurai (Esport4Life), and the 4 semifinalists from the Ranked Qualifier which is still underway: Bracket here. This was the last train.
Final 4 NA challenger teams are decided tomorrow from these 16.
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Edit: It's been settled, the 8 EU challeger teams advancing to Summer Promotion Playoffs are:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WyeyfET.png) Meet Your Makers: Kubon, Mokatte, Czaru, Makler, Libik
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YsKKoFC.png) Team Alternate: Kerp, Araneae, ForellenLord, MetalX, Jree
Sinners Never Sleep: Zorozero, zdeadex, Nukeduck, MrRallez, wewillfailer
Samurai In Jeans: YoungBuck, Kottenx, extinkt, Freezecz, Unlimited
Anexis eSports: Xaxus, eRotic, Overpow, Celaver, LeoofKorea
Dexter Is Actually Evil: Kikis, dexter1, Moopz, foo sharp, LeDuck
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0pmOVEA.png) TCM Gaming: Zoller, Narkuss, Geogeo, Nanouk, Migxa
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mS7RFd8.png) Wizards Club: TessLaa, Carbono, Drag0n, Motroco, Tremnek
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Meh games today. Will be fun seeing EG get stomped by Fnatic, though.
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Will most likely miss bans/picks for game #1, but can take for the rest.
Screw that, dinner was earlier than expected.
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diamond rocking with that english <3
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LCS Europe Week #9 Gambit Gaming vs DragonBorns
Bans
Draven
Thresh
Jarvan IV
Elise
Kayle
Nasus
Picks
Shen
Zed
Sona
Miss Fortune
Kha'Zix
Udyr
Varus
Volibear
Lulu
Orianna
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On paper ATN and MYM look like the strongest teams
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On April 14 2013 01:23 Lylat wrote:
On paper ATN and MYM look like the strongest teams
MYM will probably beat any team they draw but I've never been convinced by atn as a team, their players may have some talent but as a team they've always come across as eeehhh to me.
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Looking at how hard mid is getting stomped this game might be over soonish lol.
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On April 14 2013 01:30 nafta wrote:
Looking at how hard mid is getting stomped this game might be over soonish lol.
Was just a matter of time before the kill was achieved.
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On April 14 2013 01:30 nafta wrote:
Looking at how hard mid is getting stomped this game might be over soonish lol.
Don't worry yamatocannon can carry....
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On April 14 2013 01:30 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 01:30 nafta wrote:
Looking at how hard mid is getting stomped this game might be over soonish lol. Don't worry yamatocannon can carry....
You are good at predicting where kills will occur?
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Hosan carrying DragonBorns.
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Where was Darien in that engagement? He ulted Lulu?
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Anyone else having massive lag?
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On April 14 2013 01:39 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Anyone else having massive lag?
It's EU LCS, yes, half europe is having lags.
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1 auto+smite and they would've gotten drake and the worth  .
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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DB probably should have waited for Crescendo's cd to try to get that drake, but I guess it worked well in the end.
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On April 14 2013 01:39 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Anyone else having massive lag?
I haven't had problems with twitch but you can try the youtube or azubu streams.
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I'm glad that Riot is keeping LCS broadcasting quality in line with server quality.
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Hosan is playing really good. I wonder if Diamondprox had smite when Hosan stole that dragon.
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PD on Varus + Aegis on Udyr completed, DB should have a pretty neat power spike at the next drake.
Unless they manage to get caught despite Udyr nearby and eat a 3v5 in the face...
Edit: ^ the commentators said Diamond didn't have Smite.
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Yamato so bad lol........Can't even use his stuff.....
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On April 14 2013 01:47 Serelitz wrote:
I'm glad that Riot is keeping LCS broadcasting quality in line with server quality.
I hope you tried all 3 streams before complaining. Azubu stream works great for me.
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Zzz DB. Get a kill? Yay, let's pressure 4v4!
They didn't need to pressure so hard if they wanted to let Yamato splitpush, just keep Gambit busy. :/ I feel like they went too hard on the tower there.
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I don't understand why DB didn't group as 5 after the free kill on Shen.
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Ups, Deman slipped it seems. x)
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On April 14 2013 01:56 Alaric wrote:
Ups, Deman slipped it seems. x)
yeah SOTB 
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'...but he's a slippery son of a bitch'
-Deman, 2013
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On April 14 2013 01:56 Alaric wrote:
Ups, Deman slipped it seems. x)
No worries, it is Deman, Reddit would never witch-hunt him
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lol Deman: slippery son an ich. Alex's baby on the way?
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Ghostblade mf....New meta
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Yay! I actually get the ability to watch EU LCS this weekend. God Alex's Kha'zix is scary.
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Wtf DB.
"Hey, Kha'Zix has a GA and baron buff, let's try to kill him!"
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And Yamato stays on bottom all the time. DB gave Gambit that baron for free.
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Don't know why a zed would go to the T2 tower instead of baron when the enemy team is around baron
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On April 14 2013 01:57 Xacez wrote:No worries, it is Deman, Reddit would never witch-hunt him
The americans probably would. You can show them brains and guts and gore pouring out from skulls and stuff, but call someone a son of a bitch or show a bit of tit and they cry foul horror and rated 55+ at least.
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I don't understand Hosan's build. Wouldn't LW be better considering Volibear has a shitton of armour? Even with IE he'll never be able to kill him fast enough.
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Hosan's positoning was... ugh. "Here, take half my health for free".
(Also MF stupid ult bot.)
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Heh, Shushei wasting ignite on Genja there, must be frustration 
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Poll: Recommend Gambit vs DB Week 9?If you have time (9) 64% No (5) 36% Yes (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Gambit vs DB Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Now that is the definition of overanalysis acting like darien's ult was some kind of strategic choice to help diamond tank it darien was just showboating by wasting the ult :p
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A bit of a boring game. Despite being relatively even in gold early on DB couldn't do anything in teamfights...
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Alex Ich so humble. Of course I'm predisposed to like him, my name is Alex :p
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Zed should have stayed with his team.
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Soaz
Diamond
xPeke
Genja
EDward
Thats the all star team that would make europe overcome Korea
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On April 14 2013 02:26 Slangen wrote:Soaz Diamond xPeke Genja EDward Thats the all star team that would make europe overcome Korea
Not China though h4h4h4h4.
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Oh god this actually became a thing? I guess its pretty cool.
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On April 14 2013 02:27 UnKooL wrote:
Oh god this actually became a thing? I guess its pretty cool.
Getting fat with krepo is a lot more fun and productive though.
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On April 14 2013 02:26 Slangen wrote:Soaz Diamond xPeke Genja EDward Thats the all star team that would make europe overcome Korea
So weird that EU has very few good ADC's and 0 great ones, not even one were you see the potential
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On April 14 2013 02:29 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 02:27 UnKooL wrote:
Oh god this actually became a thing? I guess its pretty cool. Getting fat with krepo is a lot more fun and productive though.
i agree.
![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/75f950104deee3c9a5c97135fd466533/tumblr_mkofpv173Y1rn56dto1_400.gif)
#gettingfatwithkrepoallday.
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It was actually nRated (with aAa) who picked up Leona first and showed geat stuff with her. he probably inspired Krepo.
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LCS Europe Week #9 Evil Geniuses vs Fnatic
Bans
Kassadin
Lux
Kha'Zix
Renekton
Kennen
Thresh
Picks
Zed
Varus
Nasus
Leona
Twisted Fate
Nunu
Shen
Miss Fortune
Volibear
Katarina
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Anivia left open and not picked.
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Raidcall vs Raidcall
Starting boots might still have its uses after all.
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On April 14 2013 02:37 Redox wrote:
Anivia left open and not picked.
Eh his TF seems pretty solid o.O
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froggen doing sooooo much work
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I guess getting fit irl doesn't help you in game .
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Beautiful play from Krepo and Yellowpete there
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Well it doesnt look like EG now. The curse has been lifted for early and mid game?
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Hands up those who thought EG would have a 7k lead by 16 mins!
EG playing well, but they are benefiting from SoAZ having one of his off games for fnatic
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On April 14 2013 02:55 Amethyst21 wrote:
Hands up those who thought EG would have a 7k lead by 16 mins!
EG playing well, but they are benefiting from SoAZ having one of his off games for fnatic
I think they got out-picked a little, leona totally zoned him lvl and cs.
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the leona pick been so strong this game why have we not seen this more
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On April 14 2013 02:57 Kuja900 wrote:
the leona pick been so strong this game why have we not seen this more
Because she's not thresh which is kind of a deal breaker for supports.
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EG playing this game extremely well, if fnatic gonna turn this around they need to turtle alot
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On April 14 2013 02:55 Amethyst21 wrote:
Hands up those who thought EG would have a 7k lead by 16 mins!
EG playing well, but they are benefiting from SoAZ having one of his off games for fnatic
If this game had happened the other way around we would have heard so many superlatives about Fnatic and how terrible EG are.
Perfect game by EG so far. Seems like practice does indeed pay off. Who would have thought.
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On April 14 2013 02:38 Xacez wrote:
Raidcall vs Raidcall
Starting boots might still have its uses after all.
Fnatic isnt sponsored by raidcall anymore iirc.
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Snoopeh tries to save xpeke but can't do it.
Really didn't expect eg to actually play well for once.
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On April 14 2013 02:56 Acertos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 02:55 Amethyst21 wrote:
Hands up those who thought EG would have a 7k lead by 16 mins!
EG playing well, but they are benefiting from SoAZ having one of his off games for fnatic I think they got out-picked a little, leona totally zoned him lvl and cs.
I think it was maybe less than the Leona pick (though that has worked out well) and more nRated picking Nunu who is not really a strong 2v1 laner and it really allowed Wickd to do relatively well in his lane
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On April 14 2013 03:00 krutopatkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 02:38 Xacez wrote:
Raidcall vs Raidcall
Starting boots might still have its uses after all. Fnatic isnt sponsored by raidcall anymore iirc.
You are right, completely missed that.
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Poll: Recommend EG vs Fnatic Week 9?Yes (29) 81% No (4) 11% If you have time (3) 8% 36 total votes Your vote: Recommend EG vs Fnatic Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Wooooow, amazing call by Froggen! Fantastic game.
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what a strange way to end the game lol
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I love the idea of EG winning with fnatic's patented strategy
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lol Froggen pulling off the xpeke on xpeke
Froggen is beast
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Great finish. Boring game overall.
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awesome game by EG. really well done!
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On April 14 2013 03:11 Amethyst21 wrote:
I love the idea of EG winning with fnatic's patented strategy
Looked totally like a Fnatic game from EG, from start to finish. If we had exchanged the names of the players noone would have noticed.
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That game was awesome. EG is amazing.
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That must be a first, at the end of the game all of the winning team were dead!
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That backdoor was just for showing off and doing the xPeke. EG would have easily won that last fight if Froggen had stayed with the team.
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On April 14 2013 03:16 sinii wrote:
That must be a first, at the end of the game all of the winning team were dead!
I remember a match doacristo loved in ogn where a cait got a pentakill but the minions won the match anyway since cait was too far from the nexus to defend I can't remember the exact one but they just loved it.
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They would have 100% won even if Froggen wouldn't have finished there. I don't get the "zomg so exciting" reactions, EG was in full control the entire match.
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On April 14 2013 03:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 03:16 sinii wrote:
That must be a first, at the end of the game all of the winning team were dead! I remember a match doacristo loved in ogn where a cait got a pentakill but the minions won the match anyway since cait was too far from the nexus to defend I can't remember the exact one but they just loved it.
A MVP team versus a KT team? not entirely sure.
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On April 14 2013 03:17 Dan HH wrote:
They would have 100% won even if Froggen wouldn't have finished there. I don't get the "zomg so exciting" reactions, EG was in full control the entire match.
winning in style > winning normally
anyway, gg EG, good that they still have it in them to take out teams like fnatic
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what EG won? Oo serio? damn it, and I cant watch the games. I will check out the VOD later, wtf
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Edward elise?Would be pretty fun :D.
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LCS Europe Week #9 against All authority vs Gambit Gaming
Bans
Kha'Zix
Jarvan IV
Zed
Diana
Nasus
Varus
Picks
Thresh
Elise
Shen
Miss Fortune
Renekton
Lulu
Ezreal
Volibear
Orianna
Karthus
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Wow what the heck. Apart from debatably Orianna, AAA got like the most OP champions for every role currently
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aAa team is super standard and op and i find Gambit line-up strange : it's not rly agressive early.
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lol azubu stream is still in picks
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God ez and kart exhaust, lulu ignite, elise jungle... That's some serious innovation.
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On April 14 2013 03:41 krutopatkin wrote:
lol azubu stream is still in picks
Yours must be quite behind then since I watch it myself.
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Wait, did the repel just dislodge the attack?
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On April 14 2013 03:43 Xacez wrote:Yours must be quite behind then since I watch it myself.
Well I messed up then I guess.
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I barely believe that Diamond repel. Amazing play.
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On April 14 2013 03:46 JonnyLaw wrote:
I barely believe that Diamond repel. Amazing play.
"Oh Diamond is dead, nice play from Voli"
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"wat"
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Darien built a sighstone again, crazy mofo has to be onto something.
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He's just too slippery. See the standard Elise repel with no targets that will help but he flashes the wall the second he comes down before aAa can finish him off.
*edit at above --- vision wins matches
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On April 14 2013 03:54 Fusilero wrote:
Darien built a sighstone again, crazy mofo has to be onto something.
"wards seem to be pretty good"
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On April 14 2013 03:54 Fusilero wrote:
Darien built a sighstone again, crazy mofo has to be onto something.
if you actually ward it's more gold than heart of gold was, and shen scales off of health, not hard to understand (elise not as good but still, you only need to ward like 3 times to sell it back for an even trade)
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Diamond really doesn't want to die.
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Third time is the charm for aAa!
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aAa burned so much just to make sure Diamond didn't burn them with Rappel for the third time in a row lol.
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Nice Rappel full of "fuck Bullet Time", landing behind MF.
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Has gambit a secret farming trick? AAA has double the kills, double towers and same amount of dragons but Gambit still has same gold.
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On April 14 2013 04:09 TitusVI wrote:
Has gambit a secret farming trick? AAA has double the kills, double towers and same amount of dragons but Gambit still has same gold.
g/p5 runes
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They are also pretty far ahead in dragons arent they?
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Double aegis inc. Volibear gonna be diving hard with such bonus MR.
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Good guy Alex helping aAa with dragon.
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Argh. aAa has really poor objective calls. They should have went for turrets for the map control rather than going for baron.
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I cant belive this game is this close. I also cant belive that they have only tkaen 3 towers each
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Perfect positioning by Genja the last 2 teamfights
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I like how edward flashed in for the last kill. Great flash by alex_ich to punish aaa's 5 man pile onto him.
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karthus lategame doing what he does best.
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Yeah, aAa, your decision-making is bad like that. "Oh hey we have a free tower, BETTER TRY TO FORCE A FIGHT WITH OUR AOE COMP ON A SCATTERED TEAM WHILE OUR POSITIONING IS BAD".
Zzz.
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Gambit doesnt need Darien anyway, its not like he is a big factor most of the time. :D
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great teamfight at baron, ending with GMB getting aced by a 1/8 hp renekton
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Renekton chased Lulu in that fight, trying to kill her rather than help MF/Thresh who both got killed by Genja alone in that fight. Wut?
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I don't think it's humanly possible for a teamfight to be that close unless genja and freddy died at the exact same time somehow.
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Crazy game
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I dont think i've ever seen darien build any champ this offensive. He has like 2 offensive items
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Alex Ich doesn't care about aAa trying to ambush the end of his Zhonya's, he just flashes out of Bullet Time and Command:Shockwave.
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Good job by aAa not using either of MF's or Ori's ults to kill Darien. On the other hand Shlaya lost so much HP despite the mercs+bulwark aura+Banshee's when a single Lay Waste hit him. Oo
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Genja, freddy and nono, they just aren't dying ever.
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we might even see 100k gold on one team, this game is awsome
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This is one of the great LoL games of all time
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Dat Ori ult omg ! And Nono is playing so well !
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Wall of Pain is so huge. o_o
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either thresh or voli popped Alex right into the middle of the team that last fight gg.
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Genja surprised me yet again. i wish he was more consistent.
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aAa gave away position at baron every time. I have no idea why, because it looked like they think they are stronger. But it cost them the game.
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Nono is so much smaller than gambit holy check how have I never noticed that.
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awesome game, much closer then I would have ever imagined
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I just noticed, but... the team with Karthus doesn't even need a frontline. The enemy team is so afraid of getting stuck into Karthus' Defile unless they can 100% burst him that they won't bumrush if he's standing in front of the AD carry himself, which allows your actual "frontliners" to stand on the side and flank the enemy team. That's what happened with Elise every fight, and pretty often with Shen too.
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Wtf Diamond got so lucky on that one. o_o
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Awesome match, and I didn't even want to watch it in the first place.
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Alex Ich decides that he shouldn't hooked, and proceeds to not get hooked.Huh. So it is that easy? I gotta try that my next game.
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I still think Genja's weaker than Darien. >_>
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On April 14 2013 04:41 Alaric wrote:
I just noticed, but... the team with Karthus doesn't even need a frontline. The enemy team is so afraid of getting stuck into Karthus' Defile unless they can 100% burst him that they won't bumrush if he's standing in front of the AD carry himself, which allows your actual "frontliners" to stand on the side and flank the enemy team. That's what happened with Elise every fight, and pretty often with Shen too.
I always thought that Karthus passive is one of the worst designed single abilities in the game. An ability that actually rewards you for dying is just bad
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Karthus has a few bad to terribad lane matchups but christ, he's a monstrosity late game.
He's fallen out of favor or some reason but if I was building team comps, I'd get Karthus every game that he doesn't have to face a disadvantageous lane.
Default Karthus, win any match past 40 minutes.
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Karthus is still popular in Korea.
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On April 14 2013 05:01 Xacez wrote:
Karthus is still popular in Korea.
Korea is getting a resurgence of global team comps. Not surprising Karthus still popular this season.
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On April 14 2013 04:57 Badboyrune wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:41 Alaric wrote:
I just noticed, but... the team with Karthus doesn't even need a frontline. The enemy team is so afraid of getting stuck into Karthus' Defile unless they can 100% burst him that they won't bumrush if he's standing in front of the AD carry himself, which allows your actual "frontliners" to stand on the side and flank the enemy team. That's what happened with Elise every fight, and pretty often with Shen too. I always thought that Karthus passive is one of the worst designed single abilities in the game. An ability that actually rewards you for dying is just bad
It doesn't reward dying, it rewards good positioning. Not just by you, but by your entire team.
Also he is one of the only mages that "counters" the stupidity of hooks, both blitz and thresh. The risk/reward equation for those moves lategame is way out of whack, unless you have Karthus :p
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LCS Europe Week #9 GIANTS! Gaming vs DragonBorns
Bans
Draven
Kennen
Kayle
Kassadin
Thresh
Elise
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Jarvan IV
Zed
Kha'Zix
Varus
Lulu
Nasus
Miss Fortune
Diana
Shen
Sona
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On April 14 2013 05:06 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:57 Badboyrune wrote:On April 14 2013 04:41 Alaric wrote:
I just noticed, but... the team with Karthus doesn't even need a frontline. The enemy team is so afraid of getting stuck into Karthus' Defile unless they can 100% burst him that they won't bumrush if he's standing in front of the AD carry himself, which allows your actual "frontliners" to stand on the side and flank the enemy team. That's what happened with Elise every fight, and pretty often with Shen too. I always thought that Karthus passive is one of the worst designed single abilities in the game. An ability that actually rewards you for dying is just bad It doesn't reward dying, it rewards good positioning. Not just by you, but by your entire team. Also he is one of the only mages that "counters" the stupidity of hooks, both blitz and thresh. The risk/reward equation for those moves lategame is way out of whack, unless you have Karthus :p
Actually Thresh isn't that bad. Because you can go to him, while he's cc'd and can't try to run to your team once he knows he's dead. plus your E and R make it harder for him to suicide rush, unless he uses his flash.
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On April 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:Korea is getting a resurgence of global team comps. Not surprising Karthus still popular this season.
Indeed, but Shen/Twisted Fate still maintains global popularity. Karthus/Nocturne seems quite limited to Korea now.
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Finally a win for DB or Giants..
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On April 14 2013 05:09 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 05:06 cLutZ wrote:On April 14 2013 04:57 Badboyrune wrote:On April 14 2013 04:41 Alaric wrote:
I just noticed, but... the team with Karthus doesn't even need a frontline. The enemy team is so afraid of getting stuck into Karthus' Defile unless they can 100% burst him that they won't bumrush if he's standing in front of the AD carry himself, which allows your actual "frontliners" to stand on the side and flank the enemy team. That's what happened with Elise every fight, and pretty often with Shen too. I always thought that Karthus passive is one of the worst designed single abilities in the game. An ability that actually rewards you for dying is just bad It doesn't reward dying, it rewards good positioning. Not just by you, but by your entire team. Also he is one of the only mages that "counters" the stupidity of hooks, both blitz and thresh. The risk/reward equation for those moves lategame is way out of whack, unless you have Karthus :p Actually Thresh isn't that bad. Because you can go to him, while he's cc'd and can't try to run to your team once he knows he's dead. plus your E and R make it harder for him to suicide rush, unless he uses his flash.
Yea, well, Thresh is Stronk.
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Why does no one max E on MF :-( it's so strong.
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Greediness. ._.
^ A lot of the players actually don't even skill E until Q and W are maxed. A slow is pretty good though, and checks bushes.
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This game is like, being thrown before the teams can even throw properly.
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Ugh, that positional mistake by Giants!. x_x Punished hard. And the drake is automatically lost by the lack of ults too.
Exter, why would you try as non-fed Diana to solo aegis/locket Nasus...
Oh well, I guess the rest of the team uses that well.
Let's engage 4v5, it'll go well.
zzz
Even 3v5 in a sense since Shen has to ult to come in. "Hey, Kha'Zix! Here are people to feed you resets!"
The game's over. Giants! decision-making and teamfight execution is just too bad for them to get any chance at a comeback.
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Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.
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Poll: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9?No (5) 83% If you have time (1) 17% Yes (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9? (Vote): Yes
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On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.
As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.
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On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die. As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.
I vote Nasus for that.
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On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die. As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now. I vote Nasus for that.
You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO.
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I, too, don't understand the Varus explosion in use. @_@
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Adding in the abnormal number of whiffed Ults, it makes even less sense to me.
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I don't see analogy between Varus and Kog but Kupon3ss mentioned that both have % damage. Shredding HP stacking champs is nice I guess. But still... Varus @_@
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Varus is great when played right. He's actually very hard to shut down during early game (this particular game was just special........), and his lategame is quite amazing in an AoE comp. Great potential for pickoffs / surprise initiates through his ulti too - most people vastly underestimate its range. Pretty sure the only reason we haven't seen any impressive Varus plays so far is because people aren't used to playing him.
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On April 14 2013 06:39 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die. As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now. I vote Nasus for that. You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO.
Name any champion where you miss your ult 80% of the time, or it effectively does nothing, and it will look bad.
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On April 14 2013 07:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't see analogy between Varus and Kog but Kupon3ss mentioned that both have % damage. Shredding HP stacking champs is nice I guess. But still... Varus @_@
Also they both lack escape mechanisms besides an AOE slow. Honestly I think Varus is a lot like Ashe...who no one plays, for those same reasons.
And his HP shred is so unreliable because you need to hit abilities, but you need to charge it, and you want to use E early so you don't die.
On April 14 2013 07:37 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 06:39 cLutZ wrote:On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die. As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now. I vote Nasus for that. You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO. Name any champion where you miss your ult 80% of the time, or it effectively does nothing, and it will look bad.
Caitlyn...
I'm just saying people need to use him properly, not as this ADC that fits every team comp. He has a problem: He needs a protect comp, but his DPS isn't strong enough for a Kog-Style protect comp, so it needs to be a poke/disengage comp.
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What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....
Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily.
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On April 14 2013 09:20 nafta wrote:
What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....
Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily.
But WHEN does that happen?
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On April 14 2013 09:27 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 09:20 nafta wrote:
What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....
Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily. But WHEN does that happen?
Assuming you asking when you can max q in 2v1 it's better anyway.In some situations the extra slow on e might be better still so it's arguable.
You are just underestimating the cc his ulti brings and overestimating the damage of most adc.The magic damage actually does quite a bit of damage.A lot of times you get shit like nasus/renek/shen/voli etc with infinity hp and they just stack armor so it does decent dmg.Obviously kog outdamages him but kog isn't as good in lane and he doesn't give you hard cc with 1075 range.Varus just has respectable damage and very good cc for mid game when most adc are really weak.
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What is like a VOD of a varus basically carrying in a way another ADC would not have been able to?
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On April 14 2013 09:47 cLutZ wrote:
What is like a VOD of a varus basically carrying in a way another ADC would not have been able to?
I remember several instances when a Varus ult won the game. Most recently SK vs EG had several good ones.
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Varus is an amazing 2nd/3rd position AD carry because the %hp damage isn't strictly farm dependent. Also with slightly less farm he brings lots of utility to the table with CC that other ADs don't. In a mid dominated league like the EU LCS, he's a great option to fill behind the farm dominant players like Alex Ich, Froggen, etc.
He's not as strong of a S2 1st position dominate game and carry pick.
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It's shame that GIANTS have 29% winrate. They showed much better and excited games compared to SK.
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I feel like Varus is a situational pick, especially vs volibear with the self peel and healing reduction. He tends to fail when he tries to use ult to initiate and misses which happens a lot more than it should.
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Finally jimbz kennen whoop whoop.
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LCS Europe Week #9 GIANTS! Gaming vs Evil Geniuses
Bans
Lux
Kha'Zix
Zed
Kassadin
Thresh
Elise
Picks
Twisted Fate
Shen
Leona
Jarvan IV
Kennen
Volibear
Varus
Rumble
Zyra
Ahri
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I think there will be a lot of focus on top this game. Snoopeh should try hard to gank that Rumble.
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It's not really noteworthy that a support plays lulu/thresh/sona seeing as literally every single support in the world rotates those 3.
WHAT THE FUCK EXTER.
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eg loses level 1 fight because Froggen can't be bothered to lose cs or skill E level 1 zzz
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LCS has da best (messiest) lvl 1 fights.
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Snoopeh's micro too good. :/
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Eg showing us how to throw away a great lead lol.....
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Snoopeh so screwed lol, he didn't even got an assist from 1st blood..
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Ahahaha how is Snoopeh even a pro player? That was just ridiculous.
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Snoopeh gonna take so much crap for that when it's almost entirely Froggen's fault.
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On April 15 2013 01:33 TheLink wrote:
Snoopeh gonna take so much crap for that when it's almost entirely Froggen's fault.
BUT THAT ONE CS FROGGEN TOOK MADE IT ALL WORTH.
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The person who made the call to steal blue is at fault.They should've noticed snoopeh is lvl 1 and smiteless and froggen got q to get wolves with wickd no way for him to know that they were going in.....
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On April 15 2013 01:35 nafta wrote:
The person who made the call to steal blue is at fault.They should've noticed snoopeh is lvl 1 and smiteless and froggen got q to get wolves with wickd no way for him to know that they were going in.....
if froggen skilled E level one , which you should do for a level 1 fight, they would have had 2 kills instead of 1 and the blue steal would have been safe, if froggen protected from the banana bush and/or threw a q since he has already skilled it, Snoopeh could have smited and gotten out in time
pls
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On April 15 2013 01:35 nafta wrote:
The person who made the call to steal blue is at fault.They should've noticed snoopeh is lvl 1 and smiteless and froggen got q to get wolves with wickd no way for him to know that they were going in.....
Yeah I'd say that was more a team communication problem. Froggen was not "wrong" to push the lane. Not going for the blue would also have been a good decision, just take the advantage and push the lanes.
Obviously if Froggen ignored a call then it's his fault.
Snoopeh on the other hand.... he flashed into 3 enemy team members, was MILES away from finishing off the kill (which wasn't even worth it) and just threw his life away for no reason.
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On April 15 2013 01:38 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 01:35 nafta wrote:
The person who made the call to steal blue is at fault.They should've noticed snoopeh is lvl 1 and smiteless and froggen got q to get wolves with wickd no way for him to know that they were going in..... if froggen skilled E level one , which you should do for a level 1 fight, they would have had 2 kills instead of 1 and the blue steal would have been safe, if froggen protected from the banana bush and/or threw a q since he has already skilled it, Snoopeh could have smited and gotten out in time pls
Snoopeh had no smite.Giants appeared ~1:38 so froggen got q to hit wolves.They would lose the 4v3 easily at their blue.J4 can just throw e and smite through wall.It was a dumb decision.
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Triforce Shen incoming lol
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TF gonna be so useless :-/
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Not sure why Giants left their duo lane top for so long. They lost Rumble and dragon because of that...
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On April 15 2013 01:40 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 01:38 Slusher wrote:On April 15 2013 01:35 nafta wrote:
The person who made the call to steal blue is at fault.They should've noticed snoopeh is lvl 1 and smiteless and froggen got q to get wolves with wickd no way for him to know that they were going in..... if froggen skilled E level one , which you should do for a level 1 fight, they would have had 2 kills instead of 1 and the blue steal would have been safe, if froggen protected from the banana bush and/or threw a q since he has already skilled it, Snoopeh could have smited and gotten out in time pls Snoopeh had no smite.Giants appeared ~1:38 so froggen got q to hit wolves.They would lose the 4v3 easily at their blue.J4 can just throw e and smite through wall.It was a dumb decision.
if they don't have smite I have no idea why they invaded lol, you got me there
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Why didn't Giants force that fight? Pretty sure they would win that easily.
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Why didn't Giants engage on Dragon.. Could have been a perfect Rumble ult engage
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Baaw, drake was available and Solar Flare was down, Giants! y u no fight.
Oh, 2 towers. Right.
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Froggen's flanking maneuvers backfired so hard.
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Finally Giants! You have Rumble Zyra Kennen, no way you can lose 5v5
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Holy shit that disengage power. Nice EQ by Jarvan too to bypass Chain of Corruption's root—I believe if he does that it also cancels the spread since his landing point is too far from his teammates?
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Still pre-30 minutes, Rumble still hurts, check.
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Seems like games are always more entertaining when Giants is are involved.
+ Show Spoiler +Since Giants is the name of the team, 'is' would be the correct form and not 'are'?
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Great fight from Giants, but wtf Froggen what did he expect staying in Giants jungle ? That was pretty bad.
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EG beating fnatic everybody screaming COMEBACK TIME and next day they look terrible against Giants again :D
and Jimbz Kennen is just his super super comfort pick, even if you don't think ad kennen is good, I'd still just keep banning it against Giants ~_~
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On April 15 2013 01:54 Xacez wrote:Seems like games are always more entertaining when Giants is involved. + Show Spoiler +Since Giants is the name of the team, 'is' would be the correct form and not 'are'?
In sports in general teams are always referred to as plural. So it would still be "Giants are involved"
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AD Kennen too strong.
edit: OVER 9000
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Wow. When was The Equalizer used? I thought it wasn't on cooldown during the Baron but I didn't see it used.
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Somehow Quikshots' mind was blown because Wickd used his escapes.. to try to escape.
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On April 15 2013 01:57 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 01:54 Xacez wrote:Seems like games are always more entertaining when Giants is involved. + Show Spoiler +Since Giants is the name of the team, 'is' would be the correct form and not 'are'? In sports in general teams are always referred to as plural. So it would still be "Giants are involved"
Thank you.
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On April 15 2013 01:56 AsnSensation wrote:
EG beating fnatic everybody screaming COMEBACK TIME and next day they look terrible against Giants again :D
and Jimbz Kennen is just his super super comfort pick, even if you don't think ad kennen is good, I'd still just keep banning it against Giants ~_~
Well they are showing they are in Gambit territory now, that includes loosing against Giants. :D
Btw I wish Snoopeh would win a smite war once.
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Man I though EG has then Baron and then Slicing Maelstrom lol.
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Poll: Recommend Giants vs EG Week 9?Yes (15) 83% No (2) 11% If you have time (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs EG Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Wickd trying his solo queue Triforce build on Shen but it's pretty ineffective
GG Giants
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Other teams banned kennen against jimbz, those other teams also beat jimbz.
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Damn Equalizer range. He uses it to damage/slow Wickd, and it also hits Yellowpete under his inhib turret.
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good job yellowpete, you got destroyed in lane and outpositioned in every single teamfight!
Not banning Kennen against Giants is already a mistake, but then letting him farm and outplay you like that just shows that Krepo/Yellowpete really don't prepare enough for a game.
This is supposed to be your job guys, treat it like it is.
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GG Giants
maybe snoopeh/EG should stop attention whoring with his stupid #getifitwithsnoopeh shit, I get it, you are a nerd that also works out. Surprise alot of people do, but maybe as a pro player you should work on your game first, instead of a-z jungle marathon or pushups with viewers. Even in the game vs Fnatic he looked terrible.
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Eg are getting to old dignitas levels of throws lol.Also is it just me or ahri seems so underwhelming?She's been picked a few times lately but every time she doesn't really do much.
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On April 15 2013 02:04 nafta wrote:
Eg are getting to old dignitas levels of throws lol.Also is it just me or ahri seems so underwhelming?She's been picked a few times lately but every time she doesn't really do much.
She's a pretty strong counterpick to TF, you saw how easily Froggen could dive and the non-existant TF roaming. But yeah every teamfight it seemed he just unloaded his entire combo into someone that didn't die then was blank. Maybe it's a team focus-fire issue.
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On April 15 2013 01:59 Redox wrote:
Btw I wish Snoopeh would win a smite war once.
That actually wasn't his fault, equalizer and cataclysm were used to keep him out of the baron pit so J4 could pick it up.
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On April 15 2013 02:03 Tula wrote:
good job yellowpete, you got destroyed in lane and outpositioned in every single teamfight!
Not banning Kennen against Giants is already a mistake, but then letting him farm and outplay you like that just shows that Krepo/Yellowpete really don't prepare enough for a game.
This is supposed to be your job guys, treat it like it is.
Bashing might still be ok, but making up random stuff to bash not so much.
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Na, EG wasn't really ahead at any time—they were behind early on and came back even, but not ahead to call it a throw. Wickd getting caught before that Baron was a mistake but considering Giants! were rushing a drake it wasn't like he was particularly overextended either... well, he was, but I guess I'm too used to using HSGG or DL for the "overextend" definition.
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On April 15 2013 02:07 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 01:59 Redox wrote:
Btw I wish Snoopeh would win a smite war once. That actually wasn't his fault, equalizer and cataclysm were used to keep him out of the baron pit so J4 could pick it up.
Huh I thought he was in range. My bad if not.
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Yeah EG didn't lose due to yellowpete/Krepo's performance in lane, the gold was even but EG had an inferior teampfight comp and Giants got 3 good teamfights off
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On April 15 2013 02:07 Alaric wrote:Na, EG wasn't really ahead at any time—they were behind early on and came back even, but not ahead to call it a throw. Wickd getting caught before that Baron was a mistake but considering Giants! were rushing a drake it wasn't like he was particularly overextended either... well, he was, but I guess I'm too used to using HSGG or DL for the "overextend" definition.
Yeah, it didn't seem like EG played that horribly, Giants deserve some credit for being very well coordinated that game.
The biggest mistake to me was when EG got greedy at the very start and tried to steal blue buff after getting first blood and ended up donating 3 kills and got Giants right back into the game.
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On April 15 2013 02:07 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 02:03 Tula wrote:
good job yellowpete, you got destroyed in lane and outpositioned in every single teamfight!
Not banning Kennen against Giants is already a mistake, but then letting him farm and outplay you like that just shows that Krepo/Yellowpete really don't prepare enough for a game.
This is supposed to be your job guys, treat it like it is. Bashing might still be ok, but making up random stuff to bash not so much.
Random stuff? Top lane (which was bottom but nm that) was pretty much equal, Froggen won mid hard and both junglers had about equal items. Who won that game? Kennen/Zyra who were ahead by nearly 30 minions when Yellowpete and Krepo rotated to bot (after already loosing their tower).
There is nothing random about it, Giants have played that lane since the qualifiers, so preparing for it might be a good idea don't you think?
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EG just got outpicked/didn't win early game hard enough, that's all, its not EG botlane's fault
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On April 15 2013 02:15 nxk wrote:
EG just got outpicked/didn't win early game hard enough, that's all, its not EG botlane's fault
maybe they got outpicked, they probably shouldn't have gone for the blue steal, but that doesn't really change my point.
Leona/Varus got bullied in lane by Zyra and Kennen (who played a great game to be fair). The latter two champions are by far the most common picks from Giants. If you truly want to be a professional you MUST prepare for games like this, otherwise the joke is on you.
Maybe I'm harsh on them, but frankly the lackluster way EG prepares for their games has been bugging me all season. Obviously you cannot predict every pick and ban, but you can plan ahead to some extent. If you don't have a solid plan to deal with someones signature champion than maybe you should ban him out. They didn't and they lost, so now they get mocked for it.
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On April 15 2013 02:14 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 02:07 Redox wrote:On April 15 2013 02:03 Tula wrote:
good job yellowpete, you got destroyed in lane and outpositioned in every single teamfight!
Not banning Kennen against Giants is already a mistake, but then letting him farm and outplay you like that just shows that Krepo/Yellowpete really don't prepare enough for a game.
This is supposed to be your job guys, treat it like it is. Bashing might still be ok, but making up random stuff to bash not so much. Random stuff? Top lane (which was bottom but nm that) was pretty much equal, Froggen won mid hard and both junglers had about equal items. Who won that game? Kennen/Zyra who were ahead by nearly 30 minions when Yellowpete and Krepo rotated to bot (after already loosing their tower). There is nothing random about it, Giants have played that lane since the qualifiers, so preparing for it might be a good idea don't you think?
They were equal all the time, with Eg actually putting forward much bigger pressure. They lost some cs when they rotated to bot to possibly get the dragon. That was probably not the best call, but is unrelated to "loosing lane".
Also you are putting way too much focus on cs. For example Ahri dominating TF early is to be expected. And he got help with Shen ults. On the other hand bot lane had to play with TF threat all the time, while Shen threat was used for mid.
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EG also always used Shen to try and suppress TF, so they sacrificed the global presence of Shen and the very strong roaming of Ahri just to try and maintain the lanes—in that sense, it's their botlane's fault that they weren't able to at least hold their own considering all the efforts made to reduce the pressure on them. However, it also means that Rumble reached his midgame peak pretty comfortably, and since EG wasn't able to utterly crush TF he remained useful.
I thought that Giants! had pretty good map movement and warding too, when they pressured inner top, and the good call to drop the drake to get 2 towers. Getting more towers early eases a lot of the work when latter on Shen can splitpush while Ahri and Varus have strong wave clearing. On the contrary, I found that EG did pretty well to pressure top as a team to deny Giants! pushing. They failed to capitalise or take the tower though (I guess you have to blame Krepo for getting harassed so hard), but it stopped Giants! cross-map pushes.
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On April 15 2013 02:20 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 02:15 nxk wrote:
EG just got outpicked/didn't win early game hard enough, that's all, its not EG botlane's fault maybe they got outpicked, they probably shouldn't have gone for the blue steal, but that doesn't really change my point. Leona/Varus got bullied in lane by Zyra and Kennen (who played a great game to be fair). The latter two champions are by far the most common picks from Giants. If you truly want to be a professional you MUST prepare for games like this, otherwise the joke is on you. Maybe I'm harsh on them, but frankly the lackluster way EG prepares for their games has been bugging me all season. Obviously you cannot predict every pick and ban, but you can plan ahead to some extent. If you don't have a solid plan to deal with someones signature champion than maybe you should ban him out. They didn't and they lost, so now they get mocked for it.
I agree with what you're saying (in terms of "this is their job they need to be better prepared", but I still think it's kind of unfair. If I remember correctly, that failed blue steal really hurt Leona/Varus, they had to deal with a Kennen with 3 assists and a Zyra with at least one kill and red buff - which gives that lane a huge starting advantage. You can prepare for a lane, but starting with a disadvantage like that is pretty hard to deal with at a professional level no matter how much preparation you put into it.
Krepo did get first blood though, so maybe some of this is on him not using that advantage to help keep the lane even.
I still don't get why they didn't just ban Kennen though.
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Yeah, Giants played really well this game, also I think EG should have focused more on shutting down Rumble IMO.. Letting Rumble 1v1 against Shen was a big mistake, he got quite farmed and his damage was a huge factor in teamfights.
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And yeah really, they should have banned Kennen.
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I don't understand, why they did not ban Kennen or/and Zyra. I don't understand the Kha'Zix ban, isn't Exterminare a great TF player? I can not remember a game, in which he carried hard with Kha. So why don't ban out kennen instat of Kha?
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.
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LCS Europe Week #9 Fnatic vs DragonBorns
Bans
Lux
Leona
Draven
Elise
Thresh
Twisted Fate
Picks
Zed
Jarvan IV
Kha'Zix
Nocturne
Zyra
Kayle
Miss Fortune
Twitch
Jayce
Malphite
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On April 15 2013 02:29 Darkshark wrote:
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.
Obviously to get dragon. 2 man bot, + shen ult from top. So potentially 5v3.
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On April 15 2013 02:29 Darkshark wrote:
I don't understand, why they did not ban Kennen or/and Zyra. I don't understand the Kha'Zix ban, isn't Exterminare a great TF player? I can not remember a game, in which he carried hard with Kha. So why don't ban out kennen instat of Kha?
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.
Actually that laneswap mid game was an attempt by EG to take dragon but they were stopped by that ward that they couldn't clear because their pink ward couldn't see it. But even with that ward EG could have taken the dragon, guess they didn't want to risk losing the smite war.
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I take it nobody is interested in this game?
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Just not much happening. I'm not sure why Shushei keeps trying to 1v1 Zed as Kha'zix...
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Why does Cyanide pick Ghost over Flash when facing Jarvan? Is there a good reason for Ghost in this comp?
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oh god DB what was that.... malphite teles in well after they died
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On April 15 2013 02:44 Xacez wrote:
I take it nobody is interested in this game?
interested maybe, but so far this is one of the strangest games I have ever seen :p
And that was probably one of the most wasted Teleports I've seen 
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Hosan getting stomped by Yellowstar
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Yeah I think that's around the 3rd 1v1 he lost to Yellowstar.
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Hmm, yellowstar could have pushed that bottom inhib turret there
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Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs DB Week 9?If you have time (6) 60% No (3) 30% Yes (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs DB Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Wow, that ended pretty quick.
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On April 15 2013 02:51 Infundibulum wrote:
oh god DB what was that.... malphite teles in well after they died
Always nice to see cocky YamatoCannon failing.
Wp Fnatic. Soaz Jayce is beasty.
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"You cant move your eyebrows? What's wrong with you?"
sigh. This pre game "show" is always a pleasure to watch
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LCS Europe Week #9 GIANTS! Gaming vs against All authority
Bans
Thresh
Kennen
Renekton
Kha'Zix
Shen
Elise
Picks
Jarvan IV
Diana
Zyra
Sona
Varus
Nasus
Vayne
Olaf
Twisted Fate
Kayle
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One day there will be a LoL/Dota match where someone doesn't pause at the start
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does it lag for u or is just me?
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On April 15 2013 03:39 M2 wrote:
does it lag for u or is just me?
every stream is supper laggy for me ><
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Twitch working fine for me.
Edit: As I write that it starts lagging.
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No lage here (twitch, Germany).
The strengths of Giants become really apparent here, just like vs EG. Its how they move on the map as a team, always push at the right places at the right time etc.
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A successful Olaf game... didn't expect it.
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Switched to Azubu, works for me. Still lags though.
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dat diana t.t
ah well, was over anyway
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Giants vs aAa Week 9?If you have time (5) 63% No (3) 38% Yes (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Giants vs aAa Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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"kda far above any other jungler in europe" Hyrqbot is pretty close and considering his team overall is far worse than diamond's, hyrqbot really doesn't get enough credit. He's super good.
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On April 15 2013 04:27 Shikyo wrote:
"kda far above any other jungler in europe" Hyrqbot is pretty close and considering his team overall is far worse than diamond's, hyrqbot really doesn't get enough credit. He's super good.
agreed, I think he is on par with Cyanide
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LCS Europe Week #9 Gambit Gaming vs SK Gaming
Bans
Fizz
Renekton
Varus
Shen
Miss Fortune
Kha'Zix
Picks
Thresh
Elise
Jarvan IV
Narus
Caitlyn
Rumble
Ashe
Zed
Rengar
Twisted Fate
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Genja tanking the turret so that Edward could get the kill. Working as intended
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how many games do we need before someone tells Jason Blue is super good on Zed
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On April 15 2013 04:48 Slusher wrote:
how many games do we need before someone tells Jason Blue is super good on Zed
Yeah please someone tells him
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elise' kit is so imba, roflmao
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SK would be scary good with a consistent midlaner, eveyone else on their team is up there already.
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wow gambit so bad, rofl. no wards on right half of the map, 2 ppl miss? better push mid with 2 ppl
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CandyPanda is playing really well again, that's nice
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On April 15 2013 04:57 Dan HH wrote:
SK would be scary good with a consistent midlaner, eveyone else on their team is up there already.
i've always said that.
-ocelote
+tabzz
gg :3
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I feel like every time Genja decides not to take bottom tower vs the lane switch, they lose or get way behind because of it.
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Why aren't they considering the obvious - Guardian Angel? (null magic mantle)
oh now they figured it out
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candy really performing strong. Genja has been totally invisible since the lanes switched back, which is really bad given ashes much higher utility.
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Diamond 0-5 with Nasus, its a rare sight.
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Casters going crazy about Ocelot but its actually the Ashe that doing the work. TF's destiny is not hard to use when GMB playing like this.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Gambit vs SK Week 9?Yes (12) 80% No (3) 20% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Gambit vs SK Week 9? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Welp. That Rengar pick really backfired.
EDIT: Shit, wasted my thousandth post.
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On April 15 2013 05:15 Caphe wrote:
Casters going crazy about Ocelot but its actually the Ashe that doing the work. TF's destiny is not hard to use when GMB playing like this.
They praise his score... when on several occasions he just walked up and got the last hit.
See: the final Rengar kill.
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dunno Rengar could have worked, again you really fuck over Darien when you intentionally refuse to take tower time and time again, I'm not sure why Genja makes that call still when every time it's at least put them in a hole.
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That Edward KDA took quite the nosedive.
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Really unimpressed with Genja's Caitlyn, especially going his standard BT, LW, GA build, unlike his standard MF/Ez she doesn't do massive dmg through abilities she needs an AS/Crit item to beef up her AA's.
Also, the only reason I can see for the Rengar pick is that Darien's main champs (Renekton/Shen/Elise) were picked/banned and he fell back on what he remembered from S2 as there was nothing else he felt comfortable on?
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On April 15 2013 05:15 Caphe wrote:
Casters going crazy about Ocelot but its actually the Ashe that doing the work. TF's destiny is not hard to use when GMB playing like this.
TF's global presence and constant stuns in fights were huge that game, whether it's "hard to use" or not isn't really relevant. I think both ocelote and candy played really well to shut down Gambit.
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On April 15 2013 05:22 QuakerOats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 05:15 Caphe wrote:
Casters going crazy about Ocelot but its actually the Ashe that doing the work. TF's destiny is not hard to use when GMB playing like this. TF's global presence and constant stuns in fights were huge that game, whether it's "hard to use" or not isn't really relevant. I think both ocelote and candy played really well to shut down Gambit.
Yeah, I really dislike ocelote, but he played well that game.
Part of the problem was Diamond had to spend so much time helping Darien he couldn't put much pressure on elsewhere, and when he did ocelote did a good job of using destiny to kill Darien.
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Darien weakest link of Gambit yet again. He really lets them down. If they had a good top they'd be much better, probably undistubably best in europe
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On April 15 2013 05:35 Shikyo wrote:
undistubably
Heh, is that the baby of "undisputed" & "indisputably"?
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Gambit, is so good at farming. Even though they lost, always ahead in farm until it became hopeless.
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Weird weekend of games. Giants crush EG and AAA, but lose to DB, go figure... at least DB is comfortably going to finish last at this point, can't wait to see them go down in flames in relegation matches.
Was hoping EG would have a chance to go into Super Week tied with SK, but SK took control of their destiny and EG didn't, so it's going to be EG vs CW in the playoffs most likely, which will be a huge bummer. Super Week is going to be insane next week though. Fnatic trying to reclaim #1 seed from Gambit, EG trying desperately to pass SK while 2 games back, CW looking to break into the top 4, AAA trying to hold off a surging Giants team... This is gonna be awesome.
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On April 15 2013 05:35 Shikyo wrote:
Darien weakest link of Gambit yet again. He really lets them down. If they had a good top they'd be much better, probably undistubably best in europe
Darien's fine as long as he gets one of his comfort champs he's picked Elise/Shen/Renekton 18 games out of the 23 LCS games (only 2 losses both on Renekton) the only problem is that he's so easy to out ban/pick. Also, just realised that he's the reason we don't see Edward on Elise as when she's available she's a much better pick on Darien (imagine giving Edward a champ who can carry like Elise).
Genja is probably the weakest link of Gambit, without his MF (10 plays, 10 wins) he just doesn't seem to make nearly the impact he should and only then it's because he do his BT-LW-GA build and hit Bullet Time.
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I know this is my 3rd post saying this but people keep blaming Darien for losing lane, when it was Genja's (or whoever makes the final call) choice not to take the bottom tower that put Darien behind vs.a champion who's a HUGE lane bully when ahead I don't see how anyone can see the way rumble vs. Rengar went as a result of the champion or the summoner.
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On April 15 2013 06:54 Slusher wrote:
I know this is my 3rd post saying this but people keep blaming Darien for losing lane, when it was Genja's (or whoever makes the final call) choice not to take the bottom tower that put Darien behind vs.a champion who's a HUGE lane bully when ahead I don't see how anyone can see the way rumble vs. Rengar went as a result of the champion or the summoner.
He was way behind regardless because of his master plan of trying to 1v1 elise at lvl 1.
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EG really have to step up their game before super week… they will face Fnatic, SK, Gambit, Wolf all very hard to beat. And the AAA match up is something they cant throw away.
Against these opponents they could find themself falling deeper down the ladder :/ Really hope they manage to stay at their 4th place.
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At this point it doesnt really matter anymore, they just gotta make sure to not drop below 6th which is almost impossible
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