On April 05 2013 22:28 ihasaKAROT wrote: EG have a tough draw this week again. Hope theyve been scrimming during their free weekend
Nope, they have been taking the week off. Following them on facebook etc it seems like they have been doing like 2 scrims in the 2 weeks since their last match.
On April 05 2013 22:28 ihasaKAROT wrote: EG have a tough draw this week again. Hope theyve been scrimming during their free weekend
Nope, they have been taking the week off. Following them on facebook etc it seems like they have been doing like 2 scrims in the 2 weeks since their last match.
It's nice that they'll have an excuse when they don't do very well this week I suppose.
On April 06 2013 14:46 Gahlo wrote: Go...somebody? Idk, I'm having a hard time trying to find anybody to gain a rooting interest in. Convince me!
EG fans need not apply.
Fnatic and Wolves are both very sympathetic teams. Great personalities, refreshing play styles, high skill. I am usually rooting for both, even though I am originally not a fan.
Although tbh I dont really get the problem. So many great teams. For me its usually harder to find soemone not to root for. At the moment that would be Dragonborns because I dont like their style and to a lesser degree Gambit because they are just too dominant.
On April 06 2013 21:59 Lysanias wrote: GG well played by Fnatic ! Ocelote may think he's on par with Xpeke as much as he wants, but again we see he's not even on the same level.
I find it kind of funny how ocelote says he is a teamplayer etc etc yet he didn't get teleport to follow tf and he didn't roam at all.
On April 06 2013 21:59 Lysanias wrote: GG well played by Fnatic ! Ocelote may think he's on par with Xpeke as much as he wants, but again we see he's not even on the same level.
I find it kind of funny how ocelote says he is a teamplayer etc etc yet he didn't get teleport to follow tf and he didn't roam at all.
Indeed, even if he can't keep up with Teleport it's somewhat a slowing mechanism vs TF, instead he stood at the side while the bot lane kept dying. trying 0 play's himself, you can't be that passive anymore as a mid. Alex showed us that early season 2 already.
Also sOAZ accent <3 Baller top laner he just keeps developing to.
I have tried it before, but the voidlings are just way too easily kiteable they seem to run around not doing enough. Although I'm no pro, guessing the main benefits are his silence and the ability to instantly shut down the MF ult with his own.
I have almost never seen Froggen on Akali. Getting him fed sounds promising, but maybe my solo queue experiences are of no importance when the pros are playing.
On April 06 2013 22:42 nafta wrote: Eg with the big throws.
they were never ahead so dunno about throws
good old edward showing that he still knows how to play sona and land those crescendos.
Well yeah I guess but it was just a REALLY bad move.Shen could've just ulted sona if she got low anyway.There was no way it could work.
yeah^^ that ult on sona was not really good from wickd
LOL EG biased crowd cheering not realizing that Alex just got a doublekill on the other side of the map
hahaha OMG of course froggen the only EG member with all the gold is splitfarming bot while his team gets destroyed. very nice flash taunt from darien on both snoopeh and pete though.
On April 06 2013 22:50 Lylat wrote: 0/6 bot lane :S
and pete is #1 ad on the voting and krepo has like 35% while n' rated has 5% ~~
I acknowledge snoopeh for trying sth unconventional with jungle malz but having 4 glasscanons is not very smart vs a khazix, nasus, shen and bullet time, all set up by very good crescendos you can expect from ed ward
Maybe he would actually innovate something viable like DiamondGod
On April 06 2013 22:52 Mensol wrote: EG are still searching for suitable style in S3. Unfortunately their late-game style isnt working in this season.
I'd say they are not threat for Asians at this point
It was working MUCH better than what they are doing right now. They actually had a really good win rate until the first loss against Gambit when EG went on their lossing streak/tilt.
On April 06 2013 22:49 nafta wrote: Snoopeh not very smart.Going those items pretty much means he won't cast more than 2 spells in a teamfight.
Its not like he has much experience with Malzahar. Probably like 2 games.
EG just playing random shit because they have lost their confidence in their old stuff. And that with minimal practice. Predictable result.
That really is no excuse lol.They have khazix+a lot of aoe and cc.He should've gone for pure mpen with a liandry.Malz bases are pretty good anyway.
No excuse at all. I am pointing out the idiocy. Basically Snoopeh played Malzahar during his A to Z jungler Marathon and then thought "oh Malz is really cool in jungle". And then they try it in LCS vs Gambit and expect to win?
BOTH Malphite AND Akali are not able to kill MF + Sona when they have fallen behind so far from their tank line? This is even more over than I thought it would be.
EG's teamcomp makes no fucking sense to me. Tripple ap (mid, jungle, top) with Malz in the jungle and Varus for AD. Which basically means 3 champs do magic dmg as main source, Lulu ap mostly too, and varus with his heavy ap spells. They are just inviting GMB to make QSS and Bulwark immediately, and they won't have any damage until Void Staff, with GMB having an insane lategame comp. Ugh.
On April 06 2013 22:52 Mensol wrote: EG are still searching for suitable style in S3. Unfortunately their late-game style isnt working in this season.
I'd say they are not threat for Asians at this point
It was working MUCH better than what they are doing right now. They actually had a really good win rate until the first loss against Gambit when EG went on their lossing streak/tilt.
i agree it was good but i wasnt as effective as in S2.
If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
Really hard to be an EG fan if they play like super shit for weeks and then they get 2 weeks off because of a bye week and froggen returned to cologne like on wednesday and on thursday+friday riot did the player conference. So how many scrims did they have in 2 weeks? 1? 2?
diehard clg.eu fan in s2 but really hard to like EG in s3. CURSED
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
On April 06 2013 23:03 AsnSensation wrote: Really hard to be an EG fan if they play like super shit for weeks and then they get 2 weeks off because of a bye week and froggen returned to cologne like on wednesday and on thursday+friday riot did the player conference. So how many scrims did they have in 2 weeks? 1? 2?
diehard clg.eu fan in s2 but really hard to like EG in s3. CURSED
PENTA ALEX lol jump jump jump
And people thought eg curse was a myth!Everyone knows it's true......EG bot lane for most dissapointing performance this lcs.Like I never expected much but this is just sad .
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
On April 06 2013 23:04 dooraven wrote: EG's botlane is so pathetically weak I'm cringing.
Yet Yellowpete is still winning the Allstar vote..... unbelievable. EU is gonna get crushed which is a real shame. I would expect the NA team to beat them easily going on current lineups.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Afaik only diamond is refusing to go to all star due to some personal stuff at the time of all stars edward seems okay to go.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
They are both going. Diamond doesn't really want to go but he has to.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Afaik only diamond is refusing to go to all star due to some personal stuff at the time of all stars edward seems okay to go.
I think he got married and wants some honeymooning.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Let's just pray all the diamond votes go to hyrqbot if they remove him from the voting.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Oh I see. Doesnt make the team weaker though imo, even if Snoopeh is not on Diamonds level. Because Snoopeh should be able to communicate much better with the rest of the team.
A lot of people will probably disagree but I call bullshit on that one.Pretty sure diamond has a decent understanding of English and he could just ping what he is gonna do if he can't talk.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Not really. While Snoopeh is nowhere near Diamonds level Snoopeh might actually do better in the LCS team, because he should be able to communicate better and might actually try to win.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Not really. While Snoopeh is nowhere near Diamonds level Snoopeh might actually do better in the LCS team, because he should be able to communicate better and might actually try to win.
I think thats a problem overall for the EU all star team. not being able to speak the same language is a huge problem
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Not really. While Snoopeh is nowhere near Diamonds level Snoopeh might actually do better in the LCS team, because he should be able to communicate better and might actually try to win.
I think thats a problem overall for the EU all star team. not being able to speak the same language is a huge problem
I'm pretty sure diamond, edward and alex_ich can speak enough english to communicate fine I don't know about genja or darien though. The only players where it'll be a real issue would be giants but no one giants is ever gonna get close to all stars.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
While he has too many votes in the allstars currently, he isn't the weakest. Their botlane, at least judging after this game, is much much weaker. A jungler can only do so much without a team to back him up. It is kind of crazy how popular he is though.
no offense to snoopeh but I think even if Diamond spoke 0 english and communicated with the allstar team via pings soloQ style he'd still do better than snoopeh
On April 06 2013 23:10 Amarok wrote: Ouch. Alex and Edward with the burn on Snoopeh.
What did they say?
in season 2, it was all about midlane so froggen could carry, now it's all about jungle and snoopeh is behind a bit, so it's easier to play EG now than it was in season 2.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
While he has too many votes in the allstars currently, he isn't the weakest. Their botlane, at least judging after this game, is much much weaker. A jungler can only do so much without a team to back him up. It is kind of crazy how popular he is though.
Sounded like Edward disagreed btw. They clearly called out Snoopeh as the weak point. Yellowpete is easily on Genjas level imo, also very similar playstyle. Krepo is much weaker than Edward though.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Not really. While Snoopeh is nowhere near Diamonds level Snoopeh might actually do better in the LCS team, because he should be able to communicate better and might actually try to win.
I think thats a problem overall for the EU all star team. not being able to speak the same language is a huge problem
I'm pretty sure diamond, edward and alex_ich can speak enough english to communicate fine I don't know about genja or darien though. The only players where it'll be a real issue would be giants but no one giants is ever gonna get close to all stars.
I gues it also depends on how many of the russians gets in the all-stars hehe. I think its also abit about how they are used to talk while they play, but we will see how it goes
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
He wont, check the votes. The EU LCS team is pretty much done. Diamondprox, Xpeke, Wickd, Yellowpete, Edward.
Not that I care much, its a nonsense event anyway.
afaik diamond said he isnt going
Does that mean Edward won't go either ? Or is that just a personal choice.
Yeh the other Gambit players have said they will go, apart from Diamond. It turns out he maybe made to go because of his contract all LCS players have with Riot.
If he does manage to get out of it and Snoopeh ends up taking his place then the EU team is in trouble.
Not really. While Snoopeh is nowhere near Diamonds level Snoopeh might actually do better in the LCS team, because he should be able to communicate better and might actually try to win.
I think thats a problem overall for the EU all star team. not being able to speak the same language is a huge problem
Good thing GIANTS aren't cleaning house in this LCS then
And as long as we get Edward to go i am just fine with it already, Yellowpete might be a good support for him considering Yellowpete is rather passive.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
While he has too many votes in the allstars currently, he isn't the weakest. Their botlane, at least judging after this game, is much much weaker. A jungler can only do so much without a team to back him up. It is kind of crazy how popular he is though.
Yellowpete is easily on Genjas level imo, also very similar playstyle. Krepo is much weaker than Edward though.
That's true but at least Genja has synergy with Edward. I'd take Yellowstar or CandyPanda over either of them anyway.
On April 06 2013 23:02 sinii wrote: If Snoopeh ends up being EU's allstar jungler then the team won't stand a chance. To me it feels like he is the weakest player in the LCS, he manages to do nothing of notice at all.
It's crazy how popular he has become just because he stared at a camera for a few seconds.
While he has too many votes in the allstars currently, he isn't the weakest. Their botlane, at least judging after this game, is much much weaker. A jungler can only do so much without a team to back him up. It is kind of crazy how popular he is though.
However Gambit were pressuring and ganking the bot lane all game, while Snoopeh was nowhere to be seen down bot where he was needed most. EG consistently lose control of their jungle buffs and dragons. Snoopeh applies nowhere near enough map pressure.
I guess it all comes down to personal opinion, however I feel like EG's bot lane failing had more to do with Snoopeh, then Krepo/Pete.
Dyrus also really shines in 2v1 situations. He's very consistent whereas Voyboy has been a little hit and miss. There's not alot in it however I think Dyrus just scrapes it based on LCS performances.
oh I didn't want to imply that Dyrus is worse, but was just surprised because voy had a solid 5% lead ever since voting started but I guess their victory against curse helped him overtake voy.
On April 07 2013 00:43 Alaric wrote: Welp, no polls. Should I head to youtube and watch some of the 3 first matches of the day before heading back to live?
Uninteresting matches, GG vs EG was funny at first with froggen akali and malz jungle but then gambit got bored and alex_ich decided to run around killing everything that moves, Wolves vs Giants was just ugly wolves laughed at giants and walked over them I think fnatic vs SK was decent though had some cool moments.
On April 07 2013 00:43 Alaric wrote: Welp, no polls. Should I head to youtube and watch some of the 3 first matches of the day before heading back to live?
You can watch them if you enjoy stomps, none of the games so far was remotly close.
Also I don't get a single thing DB is doing this game. They got lucky Voli didn't skip wolves and headed for top immediately when the top tower was about to fall but apart from that they are imo getting outplayed the whole time.
On April 07 2013 01:14 DODswe4 wrote: Another stomp. this day will end quickly if this keeps up
SK vs EG and fnatic vs GG can't be bad right. Points for effort with that fight, not much more to praise there from DB though.
Well, SK - EG can be a long one, but EG havent looked good in awhile so dunno might also end quikly. GG have a tendency to win or lose pretty quickly. I hope the matches turns out good
On April 07 2013 01:26 AsnSensation wrote: what is this madness btw 4 games already played and we're only 25min behind schedule is it because the riot LCS crew is in cologne this week?:D
cos stomp games are needed to get the schedule back on track.
On April 07 2013 01:43 AsnSensation wrote: just realized azubu.tv has DVR function, as well. Literally no reason to watch on twitch anymore, especially with all the problems.
I really don't like azubu site layout and browsing but their video stream is flawless for me, so I might start using their service more often.
Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
Serious question: Are you supposed to lose a lvl 2 trade to Varus + Thresh (that missed hook) as MF + Lulu? I kinda have the feeling that EG's bot lane misplayed it a litte, standing in Varus' slow field too long getting shot in the back several times losing the trade.
On April 07 2013 01:55 sinii wrote: Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
#flipmechanics, if voli or singed can activate their flip and you flash after that, you still get flung back
On April 07 2013 01:55 sinii wrote: Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
#flipmechanics, if voli or singed can activate their flip and you flash after that, you still get flung back
Don't worry they fixed it for skarner so it's all fine.
On April 07 2013 01:55 sinii wrote: Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
#flipmechanics, if voli or singed can activate their flip and you flash after that, you still get flung back
Yeh but he flashed before the flip on the stream? :o
On April 07 2013 01:55 sinii wrote: Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
#flipmechanics, if voli or singed can activate their flip and you flash after that, you still get flung back
Yeh but he flashed before the flip on the stream? :o
Seems dumb, never knew about that.
He should've flashed immediately but instead he waited and flashed at the same time Voli flipped him :/
knowing that 2 maybe even 3 EG guys are representing europe is so irritating, especially seeing them getting stomped like this, hopefully EG army stops being delusional and they start voting soaz and genja or candy to #1
On April 07 2013 02:00 Mensol wrote: im so happy that yellowpete will represent eu.
not.
Haha, when Snoopeh said that he should be our representative instead of Diamond because "communication would be better", I thought to myself that if communication is the problem, then we should just send the entire gambit gaming roster.
Because that is better than any combination with EG's players.
On April 07 2013 02:00 Mensol wrote: im so happy that yellowpete will represent eu.
not.
Haha, when Snoopeh said that he should be our representative instead of Diamond because "communication would be better", I thought to myself that if communication is the problem, then we should just send the entire gambit gaming roster.
Because that is better than any combination with EG's players.
It's not like there's another jungler capable of speaking English and can communicate well who is better than snoopeh he'd probably be on some big name European team like SK.
On April 07 2013 02:01 AsnSensation wrote: knowing that 2 maybe even 3 EG guys are representing europe is so irritating, especially seeing them getting stomped like this, hopefully EG army stops being delusional and they start voting soaz and genja or candy to #1
NA will probably beat EU if 2 or 3 EG guys representing eu -_-
On April 07 2013 02:00 Mensol wrote: im so happy that yellowpete will represent eu.
not.
Haha, when Snoopeh said that he should be our representative instead of Diamond because "communication would be better", I thought to myself that if communication is the problem, then we should just send the entire gambit gaming roster.
Because that is better than any combination with EG's players.
On April 07 2013 02:00 Mensol wrote: im so happy that yellowpete will represent eu.
not.
Haha, when Snoopeh said that he should be our representative instead of Diamond because "communication would be better", I thought to myself that if communication is the problem, then we should just send the entire gambit gaming roster.
Because that is better than any combination with EG's players.
Well any established full team would be better than an "all-star" team, made up of players from different teams. Which is why the whole thing is stupid in the first place and should be seen more as a show game other than something serious. Too bad there is a serious prize for these show games though.
well they redeem themselves with a good teamfight, you guys remember the times when clg.eu was praised for their exeptional teamfighting even when being a few k gold behind?:D
On April 07 2013 01:55 sinii wrote: Was that some kind of spectator bug? Looked to me like Wickd flashed out of flip range and then was flipped back to where his character was before the flash...
If it was what happened in the actual game seemed hella unfair...
#flipmechanics, if voli or singed can activate their flip and you flash after that, you still get flung back
Yeh but he flashed before the flip on the stream? :o
Seems dumb, never knew about that.
Poppy's E and Jayce's melee E work like that too. Basically all displacement skills (hence the strange behaviour when dashes and knock-backs like Headbutt clash; Alistar can actually avoid a fair bit of damage from Akali/Fiora/etc. by Wing them when they dash to him (the 2 will basically exchange places)).
This teamfight. l0l @ Krepo. Overall, EG came out ahead I would say, but they randomy decide to chase TF that doesn't die to Pete's lacking damage, giving Varus a free kill.
On April 07 2013 02:17 Argoth. wrote: Again, no CDR on Froggen's Lux. Why.....
Yea, Tear Lux is retarded. I know SuNo does it, but at least when he does it it's because he was lane swapping and the MR from chalice was not useful.
He could have went tear and morellonomicon which would actually be a very decent build with both mana and CDR + superior damage compared to athenes. But apparently Froggen thinks otherwise.
On April 07 2013 02:23 Argoth. wrote: I don't know if SK is playing so well or if EG simply is that bad.
Since someone who is streaming soloQ all the time cant really be called a serious pro gamer (basically everyone on EG) I really dont know what ppl expect... :o
On April 07 2013 02:23 Argoth. wrote: I don't know if SK is playing so well or if EG simply is that bad.
Mix of both I'd say. I mean, SK's performance wouldn't be enough to beat a top tier Korean team or the russian overlords. But they play pretty decent as a team and have a much better teamfighting than EG. They only shine from time to time (some Froggen snipes, Wickd's dives killing the carry before going down) but play pretty poorly overall. In addition, Snoopeh is useless and it doesn't help that Krepo goes for the wannabe plays.
I think that explaines why EG neutralizes a 6k lead by SK, goes even and then loses by 11k again.
Dear god, I thought Snoopeh gets crippled because Froggen keeps taking farm but, no, he gets crippled because he's just plain bad and the farm's better off going for Froggen anyway.
Not only that Snoopeh was completely absent from the most active lane, the bot lane all game... again. It's almost like he actively tries to be as far away from the action as possible in the early game lane ganks.
I don't know why EG don't just go back to their old style, they started the season off with a 5-1 record, with Snoopeh playing Maokai in wins over SK and Gambit. It seems after doing so badly in super week (where they lost some close games to big teams then just went on tilt) they decided to completely change their style to one they're total shit at playing. I'd have to believe that EG would have done better in recent weeks with Snoopeh playing support junglers and Froggen being given all the farm.
On April 07 2013 02:29 Gator wrote: snoopeh maxing q>w>e wtf
EG need a coach, or a theorician or something. Their builds are just questionable, individually but also as a team. Why nasus feel the need to go for Q dmg when wicked is there with gunblade/rylai... Where is the engage ? Why does Froggen keep building weird stuff on Lux. EG botlane did their job, as usual. Sadly Pete is 3rd farm priority....
On April 07 2013 02:33 cuppatea wrote: I don't know why EG don't just go back to their old style, they started the season off with a 5-1 record, with Snoopeh playing Maokai in wins over SK and Gambit. It seems after doing so badly in super week (where they lost some close games to big teams then just went on tilt) they decided to completely change their style to one they're total shit at playing. I'd have to believe that EG would have done better in recent weeks with Snoopeh playing support junglers and Froggen being given all the farm.
Completely lost their confidence. They said themselves they play soloq style now as they believe their old stuff doesnt work and they have not found something new. What a great plan.
On April 07 2013 02:29 Gator wrote: snoopeh maxing q>w>e wtf
EG need a coach, or a theorician or something. Their builds are just questionable, individually but also as a team. Why nasus feel the need to go for Q dmg when wicked is there with gunblade/rylai... Where is the engage ? Why does Froggen keep building weird stuff on Lux. EG botlane did their job, as usual. Sadly Pete is 3rd farm priority....
And bot lane doesn't get any help from Snoopeh early and mid game while the enemy jungler is there like 3 times before the 10 minute mark.
On April 07 2013 02:33 cuppatea wrote: I don't know why EG don't just go back to their old style, they started the season off with a 5-1 record, with Snoopeh playing Maokai in wins over SK and Gambit. It seems after doing so badly in super week (where they lost some close games to big teams then just went on tilt) they decided to completely change their style to one they're total shit at playing. I'd have to believe that EG would have done better in recent weeks with Snoopeh playing support junglers and Froggen being given all the farm.
Completely lost their confidence. They said themselves they play soloq style now as they believe their old stuff doesnt work and they have not found something new. What a great plan.
So gambit, fantic, world elite, crs and dig have found something new but EG can't?
On April 07 2013 02:40 ExoFun wrote: So funny that the attitude from EG before the start of season 3 they were doubting the work ethic of the EU scene about scrimming etc.
Now they just cant fix themself to become even their former shadow of season 2.
^^
"we need to create schedules for next season or we will not stay at the top" "we really gonna suffer next season if we dont take it serious"
off you go, A-Z Jungle solo Q. Probably the best way to improve bro
On April 07 2013 02:40 ExoFun wrote: So funny that the attitude from EG before the start of season 3 they were doubting the work ethic of the EU scene about scrimming etc.
Now they just cant fix themself to become even their former shadow of season 2.
Anyone knows if there actually is a reason to try to get first place other than seeding? Like, does Riot pay more money for first place in the league stage than for second?
Its annoying anyway that we dont know anything about the prize money structure, at least I dont. I hope Riot also pays some money for every win in the league to motivate teams to actually try even if they have their spots secured already. If not, they shoud start doing that.
On April 07 2013 02:40 ExoFun wrote: So funny that the attitude from EG before the start of season 3 they were doubting the work ethic of the EU scene about scrimming etc.
Now they just cant fix themself to become even their former shadow of season 2.
On April 07 2013 02:40 ExoFun wrote: So funny that the attitude from EG before the start of season 3 they were doubting the work ethic of the EU scene about scrimming etc.
Now they just cant fix themself to become even their former shadow of season 2.
off you go, A-Z Jungle solo Q. Probably the best way to improve bro
LOL it's even worst, most game of his A-Z jungle thing were Normals :p
Well his team had left anyway. And he wanted to earn money for a family vacation. So I guess its kind of okay.
The stupid thing though is to play jungle Malzahar there and then believe you can bring it out in LCS because it worked so well in that normal game. But yeah their practice outside the 5? hours of scrims has always been way too few. And then the last 2 weeks no scrims at all.
I love the Fizz pick! I've been playing him lately and he feels really strong idk why we dont see him more often Also, Alex Ich has been practicing him in solo q lately on stream, supposedly he was really liking him, not surprised with the pick
On April 07 2013 03:27 AsnSensation wrote: darien has sightstone and aegis :o
Sorcs+Guise, he has every single damage item Elise needs, rest is just luxury with how dumb her base damage is, so he can just use his solo lane farm to build team utility. They've been pretty isolated both Kha and hom after all, might as well put that ability to farm to use.
The last fight, they might have been able to hold that push if they had bought Homeguard boots. Don't get why people sometimes don't buy them in these situations. For example I saw Wei Xiao still have unupgraded tier 2 boots at 6 items and 2k gold
On April 07 2013 03:28 Mensol wrote: xpeke is 0-7 :o this cant be real.
report for feeding,
im worrying about all-star votes. Most of people will stop voting xpeke due one bad game.
Well, dying 1v1 3 times is a pretty big deal at the top level of play.
On another note : Fizz completly balanced champ... Like, seriously. He missed ALL his ults until 20 minutes and still could 100% TF under his tower without any fear xD
On April 07 2013 03:28 Mensol wrote: xpeke is 0-7 :o this cant be real.
report for feeding,
im worrying about all-star votes. Most of people will stop voting xpeke due one bad game.
Well, dying 1v1 3 times is a pretty big deal at the top level of play.
On another note : Fizz completly balanced champ... Like, seriously. He missed ALL his ults until 20 minutes and still could 100% TF under his tower without any fear xD
TF is a terrible 1v1 champion early game, also Ult on Fizz when you go Lich first is a slow, the damage is a bonus (it's not that amazing). Put him vs. a good duelist mid like Diana and you will be talking about how useless Fizz is, or like last week when Alex went TF and got dominated by Zed, getting dominated in lane as TF =/= OP champion.
p.s. I'm pretty sure he had like one more kill than death till the very end when the game was out of hand so please spare me your balance wine
On April 07 2013 03:28 Mensol wrote: xpeke is 0-7 :o this cant be real.
report for feeding,
im worrying about all-star votes. Most of people will stop voting xpeke due one bad game.
Well, dying 1v1 3 times is a pretty big deal at the top level of play.
On another note : Fizz completly balanced champ... Like, seriously. He missed ALL his ults until 20 minutes and still could 100% TF under his tower without any fear xD
TF is a terrible 1v1 champion early game, also Ult on Fizz when you go Lich first is a slow, the damage is a bonus (it's not that amazing). Put him vs. a good duelist mid like Diana and you will be talking about how useless Fizz is, or like last week when Alex went TF and got dominated by Zed, getting dominated in lane as TF =/= OP champion.
p.s. I'm pretty sure he had like one more kill than death till the very end when the game was out of hand so please spare me your balance wine
Well there is a difference between getting dominated and lane and getting 100% dove 1v1 without any chance of retaliation.
On April 07 2013 03:42 HeavenS wrote: no recommended games? i havent seen them all yet which ones should i watch?
Fnatic vs gambit just now was hilarious but besides that it was a pretty a bad day. Giants vs wolves is nice if you want to see the purest most unfiltered stomp ever. SK vs EG if you want to see some pretty cool plays primarily from a top laner/adc working in perfect synergy.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
On April 07 2013 03:56 sinii wrote: It's rubbish. If he was so bad why has EG's bot lane been the focus of ganks all day today?
It's easy to look bad when your lane gets camped all game and your jungler is nowhere to be found.
Yeah agree with this, of all EG it's Snoopy who needs to shape up most. Yellowpete is just fine, not the best but by far not a tier lower then other ADc either.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
Hm, his mechanics are really really solid. I dont think he is that bad.
And still Yellowpete got the most votes @ Allstars for EU.
WE need the chernobyl Genja on that spot!
F00k that we need hosan so that he and edward can welcome Wexaio to the league of draven.
You saw those Hosan tristana jumps? He is a tier below our beloved leader Genja.
Not with draven tho. A edward thresh/hosan draven lane would be crazy.
All the games I have seen Hosan play Draven he was fantastic. Would be very interesting to see a very aggressive ad with an aggressive support such as Edward.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
That's what I thought too. Notice that it's not coincidence Fnatic is doing well with or without him. They've just upgraded their play to an overall strong team.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
That's what I thought too. Notice that it's not coincidence Fnatic is doing well with or without him. They've just upgraded their play to an overall strong team.
I actually mostly agree with you. I still feel like he had more impact than yellowstar.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.
As much as I want to agree with you guys on Yellowpete/Krepo not being a bad botlane I just can't. Pete and Krepo basically never win their lane. This has been a problem ever since their formation, in season 2 it wasn't so bad because whilst pete and krepo lose thier lane - snoopeh/wickd/froggen could carry EG and eventually minimize the impact that the loss of lane had. Furthermore there were numerous examples in where even in season 2 that CLGeu lost games due to thier botlane being sub par (for example the aaa games where nRated just roamed top and yellowstar 1v2ed Krepo and Yellowpete or the tpa game where froggen basically won vs toyz but pete and krepo were just simply destroyed 2v2 against bebe and mistake). Now that snoopeh has minimal impact it's just become worse.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.
As far as laning goes, he was nothing special. The difference with him and a lot of other euro carries at the time is that Fnatic could leave Rekkles alone lane for him to split push, 1v1, make plays and pressure which is something very few other Euro carries do. HoSan does it on Draven, Jimbz does it when he gets Kennen. You might see YellowStar doing it on MF but aside from a smattering of other appearances, it's not a common sight for the european fan. I don't know about other people but I think that Europe's AD carries aren't quite there yet with a lot of teams. They're either too champion dependant or reliant on someone else to make the plays.
"1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2. I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue." - from Wickd his FB.
Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.
the funniest part is that he is playng 10 hours at home but plays 5 hours in a gaming house in the middle of the season after they have performed like shit for weeks. makes me really angry.
And the "pls don't trashtalk us" is just hilarious.
On April 07 2013 19:17 Beyonder wrote: "1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2. I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue." - from Wickd his FB.
Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.
Yea those progamers have such a busy and hard life.
Not sure what the problem with his post is. At least he is perfectly honest. This quote is also interesting:
Also our teamfights have gotten a lot worse and people feel less confident due to that. That makes it a lot harder to start a teamfight because you aren't sure if your teammates will follow up in time. It's one of the reasons that we make a lot less plays and overall play too careful. It's the same reason why split pushing is so good against us atm. No one in the team feels 100% confident in themself and dislike having to take a 1 versus 1 all in mid/late game.
Shows the overall strongly decreased confidence in the team. Basically he confirmed all the points I made earlier regarding lacking confidence and the 5 hours of play in EG.
On April 07 2013 19:17 Beyonder wrote: "1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2. I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue." - from Wickd his FB.
Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.
I always thought that was what the EG curse was anyway ? Being overpayed that is, honestly what bothers me most is that there seems 0 presure on them to perform from EG management themselfs. Getting the big pay is fine and all but if you go down on practice by 50% you simply deserve to be at the bottom of the pool. they should have a look at Gambit Gaming and see what those guys do for money.
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
And I am surprised that you are surprised. When did you see DB play with Shushei not in mid the last time?
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
I personally don't see that much 2v1ing of kassadin either.
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
And I am surprised that you are surprised. When did you see DB play with Shushei not in mid the last time?
One time they sent draven hosan mid and shushei duo laned.
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
I personally don't see that much 2v1ing of kassadin either.
You dont see much Kassadin. The last time Kassadin was used in EU LCS it was 2v1 (SK vs Fnatic week 5).
On April 07 2013 21:51 sirchen wrote: So, can CW win against Gambit later on ??? They are looking fantastic this weekend.
I don't think so. Gambit has been playing pretty well, too, and as it seems now, they struggle to end the game in a professional manner. They are currently winning because they are so far ahead from the early game, but they lack the routine to safely finish a game when it's over. This game wouldn't have lasted longer than the current 33 minutes if there was a top tier team so far in the lead.
€dit: and now they just lost 0:1 with baron and 14k gold lead.
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
And I am surprised that you are surprised. When did you see DB play with Shushei not in mid the last time?
EG didn't do it either, froggen probably in the anivia vs kass matchup since he fb him lvl 2 but got shiton and outroamed later
On April 07 2013 21:50 AsnSensation wrote: I'm surprised eu still seems to be too proud to switch 2v1 mid to completely fuck kassadin, Ahri at least can still decently farm 1v2
I would not equate the fail tactical decisions of DB with the whole of EU.
And I am surprised that you are surprised. When did you see DB play with Shushei not in mid the last time?
EG didn't do it either, froggen probably in the anivia vs kass matchup since he fb him lvl 2 but got shiton and outroamed later
Of course EG didnt do it. The statement by Doublelift after the EG game was the sole reason you said this in the first place.
On April 07 2013 21:51 sirchen wrote: So, can CW win against Gambit later on ??? They are looking fantastic this weekend.
I don't think so. Gambit has been playing pretty well, too, and as it seems now, they struggle to end the game in a professional manner. They are currently winning because they are so far ahead from the early game, but they lack the routine to safely finish a game when it's over. This game wouldn't have lasted longer than the current 33 minutes if there was a top tier team so far in the lead.
€dit: and now they just lost 0:1 with baron and 14k gold lead.
Yes, I have my doubts too (head), but my heart definitely wishes for a win.
This CW team is far closer to the top 4 teams than the bottom 3 in skill. They look better than EG atm in my opinion, but we will see vs GG, because stomping DB and Giants is perhaps not the best indicator of their true skill.
On April 07 2013 22:06 AsnSensation wrote: yes and its a shame it wasn't done this game again
kassadin outfarming ahri pre 6 is simply not acceptable
They really, really should try bringing extinct in.
Yeah that would be the best thing they could do. But I am not sure what the position of Shushei in the team is. I have my doubts that they could bench him. Also, its not like Shusheis weaknesses are something new.
On April 07 2013 22:08 IamVirGin wrote: This CW team is far closer to the top 4 teams than the bottom 3 in skill. They look better than EG atm in my opinion, but we will see vs GG, because stomping DB and Giants is perhaps not the best indicator of their true skill.
To me the power ranking would be, atm :
Gambit/Fnatic SK CW EG Giants/DB aAa
The EU power ranking is way easier to draw than the NA one :p
On April 07 2013 22:08 IamVirGin wrote: This CW team is far closer to the top 4 teams than the bottom 3 in skill. They look better than EG atm in my opinion, but we will see vs GG, because stomping DB and Giants is perhaps not the best indicator of their true skill.
To me the power ranking would be, atm :
Gambit/Fnatic SK CW EG Giants/DB aAa
The EU power ranking is way easier to draw than the NA one :p
Well in NA there are Crs, Dignitas and TSM, then the rest :p
I'm no expert, but seriously Shushei? Double Dorans Homeguards? that's a shit ton of gold early on for magic pen which is almost unrequired on Ahri due to her Q having a true damage component.
I get that you need to get back to lane faster but Jesus, not at the cost of being completely ignorable...
On April 07 2013 22:08 IamVirGin wrote: This CW team is far closer to the top 4 teams than the bottom 3 in skill. They look better than EG atm in my opinion, but we will see vs GG, because stomping DB and Giants is perhaps not the best indicator of their true skill.
To me the power ranking would be, atm :
Gambit/Fnatic SK CW EG Giants/DB aAa
The EU power ranking is way easier to draw than the NA one :p
I would agree, except I'd put aAa above DB. DB by far the worst, in my opinion. I don't even understand the love for Hosan. Best on a bad team perhaps, but him for all star as I see some people say? Don't make me laugh.
I'm reading on reddit that healthpots will be maxed at 5 and it was confirmed on EU LCS. Did it happen today while I was sleeping or are they referring to yesterday's hypothetical at the caster desk?
Just heard "comfort champion" on EU LCS stream. Phreak, get out, you're ruining it!
So... the ap player that always goes balls deep is gonna play one of the most positionally dependent ad carries? Or maybe he just goes balls deep anyway and hope they can keep him alive.
Wait what the fuck you have hosan probably one of the best adcs in Europe and shushei just goes ahead and takes it this better be really well practised hard.
EG pretty much have their dream comp btw. 2 carries in solo lanes, an eary-mid game bott lane that will be autonomous, and a supporty jungler that can go full retard without items.
EDIT : HOLY SHIET dat was a nice spear from Hosan :o Looks like he really played a lot of Nida.
On April 07 2013 23:58 nafta wrote: And shushei going for a no dmg build lol.He has ALL the peel of the world and still gets more instead of dmg.
Well BotrK is very strong for DPS against Voli, and the active allows you to go hyper fast once he popped his ghost. Why not, why not... He just mustn't go for a def item at any point in the game.
On April 07 2013 23:59 Numy wrote: DB has become so much worse since the qualifiers. Really don't understand them at all. Also I thought Snoopeh said Malunoo was going to tryout for EG?
On April 07 2013 23:59 Numy wrote: DB has become so much worse since the qualifiers. Really don't understand them at all. Also I thought Snoopeh said Malunoo was going to tryout for EG?
April fools and they are missing brokeshard.
That was really April fools. Dam guess it was good since it would have been really good for EG :<
On April 08 2013 00:04 ExoFun wrote: Lets all hope that this joke team is gonna leave LCS and lets welcome an skilled team that is worth of the LCS in EU.
Hey that's not fair hosan is legit. Hosan to MYM or millenium pls.
On April 08 2013 00:04 ExoFun wrote: Lets all hope that this joke team is gonna leave LCS and lets welcome an skilled team that is worth of the LCS in EU.
Hey that's not fair hosan is legit. Hosan to MYM or millenium pls.
Hosan is an 1 trick pony with his Draven. MYM and [M] both got more skilled players on their roster and their AD spots.
On April 07 2013 23:58 nafta wrote: And shushei going for a no dmg build lol.He has ALL the peel of the world and still gets more instead of dmg.
Well BotrK is very strong for DPS against Voli, and the active allows you to go hyper fast once he popped his ghost. Why not, why not... He just mustn't go for a def item at any point in the game.
Why is BotrK good against voli? It would makes sense to me against Renek/Nasus who get a lot of extra HP at the start of the fight, but Voli just gets to stay at low health for a longer time and BotrK isn't that strong when people are low health. The active won't bring much to the table: Kog has nunu's MS buff, and with kog/nunu/lulu/janna you don't need an extra slow. To be honest I'm not sure the lifesteal was that needed either, with a 3 support comp you can afford to have one of them get zeke's herald.
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
Snoopeh is always behind in farm, every game he's underfarmed... And it's not like he's ganking a lot :S
On April 08 2013 00:04 ExoFun wrote: Lets all hope that this joke team is gonna leave LCS and lets welcome an skilled team that is worth of the LCS in EU.
Hey that's not fair hosan is legit. Hosan to MYM or millenium pls.
Is he? How? He has the worst stats of all the ADs in every single category in lcs, except assists, where Jimbo has less.
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
Let's just say that he still didn't adapt to the jungle reworks.
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
first he was trying to deny nida her blue a lot and then he was bot a lot because there were constantly three DB-members
besides that like already said he is always behind ^^
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
first he was trying to deny nida her blue a lot and then he was bot a lot because there were constantly three DB-members
besides that like already said he is always behind ^^
This. I dont like Snopeh, but we should keep it accurate.
Honestly if shushei built the correct items and yamato wasn't so bad they would've put up a really good fight.Their team comp actually is pretty nice but they just got straight up outplayed.
They decide to go for a super passive strat against EG who love farm fest game without fights. And then they just let all inhib go down withou even trying to fight...
I honestly hope they get replaced by another team that doesn't just observe games. Janna just wandering around on the map was awkward.
On April 08 2013 00:10 nafta wrote: I don't get how snoopeh is again behind the enemy jungler.Like can someone pls explain?He didn't really camp and lanes or anything?
Let's just say that he still didn't adapt to the jungle reworks.
What? Snoopeh can't last hit jungle minions or something? It's a conscious decision to be at opponents blue or preventing his bot lane from potential dives or something. He doesn't farm slower by virtue of being Snoopeh, all junglers farm the same speed, bronze or pro. It's just a matter of time allocation.
On April 08 2013 00:16 Redox wrote: Really annoying that DB went for this comp. This way EG cant even feel good about this win and build confidence.
When the playoffs come SK or wolves will probably boot them out. Honestly it felt like DB just went for this in a moment of yolo they didn't feel like they planned or practised 4 protect 1 at all.
Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
someone should buy them a week planer or something. can't be that hard. It's not like everyone else can't organize their days when they work more than 5 hours.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
Which game was it? I'm very ignorant about the North American scene.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
Which game was it? I'm very ignorant about the North American scene.
IPL4 dig primarily ran a 4 protect kog comp with soraka mid and lulu top.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
Which game was it? I'm very ignorant about the North American scene.
IPL4 dig primarily ran a 4 protect kog comp with soraka mid and lulu top.
Both Lulu and Soraka were much stronger at solo-laning at the time though, and stuff like Zed to dive people so well didn't exist yet. It was also during s2.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
Which game was it? I'm very ignorant about the North American scene.
IPL4 dig primarily ran a 4 protect kog comp with soraka mid and lulu top.
Both Lulu and Soraka were much stronger at solo-laning at the time though, and stuff like Zed to dive people so well didn't exist yet. It was also during s2.
Back when lulu's AP ratios were much better making her a pretty damn scary lane bully at that point ye it was more viable back then.
On April 08 2013 00:20 Letmelose wrote: Jesus, what a horrible bastardization of the four support composition played by TPA. I've heard good things about Hosan, but from the little I've seen, it's been pretty disappointing so far.
Come on, if you want attribute that kind of comp to a team give the credit to Dignitas (they used Mundo though, because it gave them a brickwall to bodyblock for Kog and all the shields and heals scale pretty well with him too).
Which game was it? I'm very ignorant about the North American scene.
IPL4 dig primarily ran a 4 protect kog comp with soraka mid and lulu top.
Both Lulu and Soraka were much stronger at solo-laning at the time though, and stuff like Zed to dive people so well didn't exist yet. It was also during s2.
Back when lulu's AP ratios were much better making her a pretty damn scary lane bully at that point ye it was more viable back then.
On April 08 2013 00:30 nafta wrote: Next time my mom asks why I didn't pass an exam I'll explain to her that as a college student it's really hard to cook and study.
I'll tell that my boss when I get late to work. The possibilities..
I was thinking about how CW held against GG despite being behind, since I regard GG being the best team snowballing an advantage. Then Gambit push botlane from outer tower to nexus in one go
I think it's a combination of that it's fairly easy to predict when it's coming, along with that teams tries reaaaally hard to avoid it because if it hits shit will go bad.
The reason CW constanly back off and let GG has a nice team fight even they have a very good Zyra ult might be because Zed didn't have his ulti. He used his on top lane to go on a RENEKTON !! Yeah!
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
As competent as Yellowstar is, it's not even debatable that he makes the most mechanical errors in lane and in teamfights on his team. I've watched about 10 of Fnatic's games during the LCS and he usually will have a solid game and can carry, but will have several instances of less than ideal positioning in teamfights and a lot of missed varus ults. Certainly not a cornerstone of the team. Probably the weakest link.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
As competent as Yellowstar is, it's not even debatable that he makes the most mechanical errors in lane and in teamfights on his team. I've watched about 10 of Fnatic's games during the LCS and he usually will have a solid game and can carry, but will have several instances of less than ideal positioning in teamfights and a lot of missed varus ults. Certainly not a cornerstone of the team. Probably the weakest link.
The comparison was not with his teammates but with other ad carry. And about fnatic, I'd say Cyanide is usually less useful in the team than him. He doesn't put enough pressure imo. But yet again it is about other ad carry. I would agree that this week he was not at his best.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
the problem with stats in lol is that when your team wins the vast majority of their games, you are going to look like one of the best players at your position, people almost unanimously accept that Copp is not a better ADC than Doublelift, but yet Copp blows him out of the water statistically. I realize that Yellowstar comes out ahead in lane for creep a lot of the time, but he gets to lane with nRated, lets face it nRated and Edward are on a whole different level than the rest of the EU supports, when a team gets Thresh in the OGN league I think oh shit I can't believe they let that thru, when Edward gets thresh I think, here comes the pain, when Krepo gets thresh I think ok, w/e.
to be honest if Yellowstar himself thought he was a top tier adc I don't know why he would have joined Fnatic when they've made it perfectly clear they will replace him when Rekkles turns 17.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
the problem with stats in lol is that when your team wins the vast majority of their games, you are going to look like one of the best players at your position, people almost unanimously accept that Copp is not a better ADC than Doublelift, but yet Copp blows him out of the water statistically. I realize that Yellowstar comes out ahead in lane for creep a lot of the time, but he gets to lane with nRated, lets face it nRated and Edward are on a whole different level than the rest of the EU supports, when a team gets Thresh in the OGN league I think oh shit I can't believe they let that thru, when Edward gets thresh I think, here comes the pain, when Krepo gets thresh I think ok, w/e.
to be honest if Yellowstar himself thought he was a top tier adc I don't know why he would have joined Fnatic when they've made it perfectly clear they will replace him when Rekkles turns 17.
Da monies + auditioning for other teams against LCS level teams.
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote: Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.
hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.
tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.
I see that yellowstar in underated in this thread. The thing is Soaz and xPeke are shining so he gets less fame but he is one of the most skilled ad carry. He has better farm than the opposite side most of the time and got good stats compared to other ad carry (first average gold, second gold per second, third kda). You could say it is thanks to his teammates but if you look at his play, you see his has a sick micro and better than that, he is always at the perfect spot in fights.
the problem with stats in lol is that when your team wins the vast majority of their games, you are going to look like one of the best players at your position, people almost unanimously accept that Copp is not a better ADC than Doublelift, but yet Copp blows him out of the water statistically. I realize that Yellowstar comes out ahead in lane for creep a lot of the time, but he gets to lane with nRated, lets face it nRated and Edward are on a whole different level than the rest of the EU supports, when a team gets Thresh in the OGN league I think oh shit I can't believe they let that thru, when Edward gets thresh I think, here comes the pain, when Krepo gets thresh I think ok, w/e.
to be honest if Yellowstar himself thought he was a top tier adc I don't know why he would have joined Fnatic when they've made it perfectly clear they will replace him when Rekkles turns 17.
Yeah why would you join one of the best team in Europe, play in the LCS, live in a progaming house and get paid.. I wonder !
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