• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:26
CEST 13:26
KST 20:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters0Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)64Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!16Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
Animated Gateway NaDa's Body BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map)
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4266 users

[NA LCS] Week 1 - Page 28

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 105 Next
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 07 2013 22:21 GMT
#541
On February 08 2013 07:20 HazMat wrote:
Expecting AD Tresh for qtpie.


Thresh is banned for first week. At least that's what Cop said last night
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#542
holy crap Kiwikid is like a Scarra with a mustache.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#543
WHy are they already 22 mins behind?
Freeeeeeedom
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 22:22:25
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#544
Phreak: "These gays are getting... the GUYS are getting into the game."

Dat slip up.
Hey! How you doin'?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#545
On February 08 2013 07:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:17 HeavenS wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:10 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:07 Amethyst21 wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:06 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:04 TheSinisterRed wrote:
How did Chaox get so far behind Doublelift in the game? I missed the beginning, came in when it was 1 kill to 1 kill but Doublelift was up like 60cs at that time.


Chaox is pretty bad. I dunno why he got hyped up for so long.


I dont think he can do much vs. Urgot with lvl1 blue. He wasn't outstanding by any extent, but he's going to lose that lane, just because Urgot go blue.


Not an excuse to be way behind Urgot for the entire game on Ezreal the easiest AD carry to get farmed on ever. Also not an excuse for the fact that Chaox has looked shitty for half a year now. He's just lucky that he has Regi on his team to make him look better.

Like the way I see it, TSM now has to be carried by OddOne and Dyrus while praying that Chaox and Regi don't do something stupid.


what?? a blue on urgot so he can spam his q isnt a good enough reason for ez to get behind? are u kidding? and ez is not the easiest AD carry our of all of them to farm with, ESPECIALLY when you're heavily outranged by an Urgot with BLUE


I'm inclined to agree. Taric and Urgot w/ Blue is an immense aggro lane. Taric will position himself between creeps and Ez. All the while Urgot just free farms. Urgot gets to spam Charges (E) and hope for a lucky connect. If it does, QQQ. goodbye 2/3 Ez hp.

Ez pick was terrible, plain and simple. Compound that with Chaox's terrible plays in team fights.

Honestly, they should have lane swapped it. Lulu+Ezzy is strong 2v1, and either Elise or Kayle can be used 1v2.
Moderator
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#546
With all the hype Riot put into this, I expected hype videos, interview videos etc to fill time, not Phreak/Riv jabbering away. Sigh, oh well, not everyone can have OGN-level production, I guess
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#547
On February 08 2013 07:19 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:17 HeavenS wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:10 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:07 Amethyst21 wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:06 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:04 TheSinisterRed wrote:
How did Chaox get so far behind Doublelift in the game? I missed the beginning, came in when it was 1 kill to 1 kill but Doublelift was up like 60cs at that time.


Chaox is pretty bad. I dunno why he got hyped up for so long.


I dont think he can do much vs. Urgot with lvl1 blue. He wasn't outstanding by any extent, but he's going to lose that lane, just because Urgot go blue.


Not an excuse to be way behind Urgot for the entire game on Ezreal the easiest AD carry to get farmed on ever. Also not an excuse for the fact that Chaox has looked shitty for half a year now. He's just lucky that he has Regi on his team to make him look better.

Like the way I see it, TSM now has to be carried by OddOne and Dyrus while praying that Chaox and Regi don't do something stupid.


what?? a blue on urgot so he can spam his q isnt a good enough reason for ez to get behind? are u kidding? and ez is not the easiest AD carry our of all of them to farm with, ESPECIALLY when you're heavily outranged by an Urgot with BLUE


It's absolutely retarded to start dorans blade vs an Urgot Taric lane. It's why Lulu got first blooded, straight up.


I agree with you but i don't think they expected to lane vs urgot taric, i think maybe they expected to 2v1 malph and leave dyrus vs urgot taric but clg switched lanes also
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#548
Show nested quote +

what?? a blue on urgot so he can spam his q isnt a good enough reason for ez to get behind? are u kidding? and ez is not the easiest AD carry our of all of them to farm with, ESPECIALLY when you're heavily outranged by an Urgot with BLUE


It's absolutely retarded to start dorans blade vs an Urgot Taric lane. It's why Lulu got first blooded, straight up.


Yep 100%. If you take any amount of damage with Dorans Blade vs a kill lane, the lane is over for you...
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 07 2013 22:23 GMT
#549
On February 08 2013 07:17 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:14 Shiv. wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:13 daSilvaz wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:09 Shiv. wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:07 Amethyst21 wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:06 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:04 TheSinisterRed wrote:
How did Chaox get so far behind Doublelift in the game? I missed the beginning, came in when it was 1 kill to 1 kill but Doublelift was up like 60cs at that time.


Chaox is pretty bad. I dunno why he got hyped up for so long.


I dont think he can do much vs. Urgot with lvl1 blue. He wasn't outstanding by any extent, but he's going to lose that lane, just because Urgot go blue.

Also, ChaoXpecial was legitimately the best bot lane NA for a long time. Not that that says a lot, but that's when he got hyped a lot. He delivered back then.


wat?

It was true in S2, because CLG was in korea for the longest time.

Exactly. The only bot lane that could have challenged them at the time wasn't even a contender because they were in the land of kimchi, Blitzstaring it up.

Well, that argument makes sense, but the way i see it, despite being in Korea they are still from NA ;O

But they never actually played each other frequently enough at the time to judge it and Doublelift improved LOADS since then. You can't take their current performances and project them on their former selves. I really think Chaox and Xpecial were the better bot lane back then.
currently rooting for myself.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
February 07 2013 22:23 GMT
#550
On February 08 2013 07:22 cLutZ wrote:
WHy are they already 22 mins behind?


Cause e-Sports
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#551
On February 08 2013 07:20 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:12 TheLink wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:06 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:04 TheSinisterRed wrote:
How did Chaox get so far behind Doublelift in the game? I missed the beginning, came in when it was 1 kill to 1 kill but Doublelift was up like 60cs at that time.


Chaox is pretty bad. I dunno why he got hyped up for so long.


Every time TSM wins its because one of their lanes crushed hard and everyone raves about "omg this guy so good, always has to carry rest of TSM!". Truth is though all 3 of their lanes could be that one to carries, was just Chaox that last 1-2 times.

TSM play style is to snowball one of their lanes to ridiculousness, then everyone rants about that player and ignores everything that went into making that player strong. Maybe OddOne is just secretly OP. ^^


Not that I fully disagree with your sentiment, you aren't "accidentally" the person who carried in these games. These are not bad yolo queue players, they're coordinated teams you're playing against. If Chaox just happened to be the one who carried hard, then it's probably because he made some nice plays.


That's true but I feel as though TSM is like:

15% Chaox crushes lane and snowballs game to a win
15% Reginald crushes lane and snowballs game to a win
15% Dyrus crushes lane and snowballs game to a win
55% TSM just flat out lose an even game.

OddOne and Xpecial are difficult to rate their impact due to the nature of their roles and how they play them. Point being though that it always annoyed me when people would just claim Chaox always carry TSM when I believe it's actually split pretty evenly.


Dyrus is a lot better than you're giving him credit for. He legitimately does well in lane most games. Xpecial is still a really strong support imo. And yeah, OddOne is amazing.

Chaox got way further behind that game than most other ADs would've. Yeah, in a bad lane you're gonna get behind but he got a lot further behind than most other ADs would have in his shoes imoimo. And even if he literally couldn't have done better in lane (lol) his teamfighting remains shitty.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#552
On February 08 2013 07:22 DragoonTT wrote:
With all the hype Riot put into this, I expected hype videos, interview videos etc to fill time, not Phreak/Riv jabbering away. Sigh, oh well, not everyone can have OGN-level production, I guess


This. Especially on the first day.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 22:24:26
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#553


Hotshot played that game with no runes


Let's let that sink in for a moment.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#554
They really need to fix this downtime. You cant just do this with such a controlled environment / production.

Come on can't they learn from The International and their setup method.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#555
On February 08 2013 07:23 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 07:17 daSilvaz wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:14 Shiv. wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:13 daSilvaz wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:09 Shiv. wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:07 Amethyst21 wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:06 overt wrote:
On February 08 2013 07:04 TheSinisterRed wrote:
How did Chaox get so far behind Doublelift in the game? I missed the beginning, came in when it was 1 kill to 1 kill but Doublelift was up like 60cs at that time.


Chaox is pretty bad. I dunno why he got hyped up for so long.


I dont think he can do much vs. Urgot with lvl1 blue. He wasn't outstanding by any extent, but he's going to lose that lane, just because Urgot go blue.

Also, ChaoXpecial was legitimately the best bot lane NA for a long time. Not that that says a lot, but that's when he got hyped a lot. He delivered back then.


wat?

It was true in S2, because CLG was in korea for the longest time.

Exactly. The only bot lane that could have challenged them at the time wasn't even a contender because they were in the land of kimchi, Blitzstaring it up.

Well, that argument makes sense, but the way i see it, despite being in Korea they are still from NA ;O

But they never actually played each other frequently enough at the time to judge it and Doublelift improved LOADS since then. You can't take their current performances and project them on their former selves. I really think Chaox and Xpecial were the better bot lane back then.

Yeah Doublelift really made leaps and bounds since then. Chaox/Xpecial were pretty unanimously considered the best bot lane in NA, and top 3 in the west.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 22:25:12
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#556
On February 08 2013 07:24 Zooper31 wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLGDoublelift/status/299639921809965058

Show nested quote +
Hotshot played that game with no runes


Let's let that sink in for a moment.

yes we got it,hotshot's a dumbass
Cackle™
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#557
On February 08 2013 07:24 Zooper31 wrote:
https://twitter.com/CLGDoublelift/status/299639921809965058

Show nested quote +
Hotshot played that game with no runes


Let's let that sink in for a moment.


You're late to the party bro.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#558
I agree with you but i don't think they expected to lane vs urgot taric, i think maybe they expected to 2v1 malph and leave dyrus vs urgot taric but clg switched lanes also


Yeah but that just means that Chaox/Xpecial made a wrong decision and got outplayed. Wasn't a problem with Ez vs Urgot but with the players...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#559
I really want to see replay of Dyrus's positioning when he was trying to Teleport.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#560
dat qtpie
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 105 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #96
IntoTheiNu 392
WardiTV351
OGKoka 265
Rex85
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko442
OGKoka 265
Rex 85
Ryung 68
SHIN 63
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2953
Bisu 1591
Britney 1385
Shuttle 1345
Hyuk 1011
BeSt 943
Jaedong 897
firebathero 538
Larva 338
Leta 296
[ Show more ]
Mini 289
Soulkey 196
EffOrt 188
Light 140
Sharp 137
Hyun 130
Soma 117
Dewaltoss 108
Pusan 99
ggaemo 98
Aegong 70
HiyA 69
ZerO 68
Movie 57
Rush 52
Free 44
ToSsGirL 38
scan(afreeca) 37
soO 35
910 28
sorry 27
Sea.KH 23
JulyZerg 23
Sacsri 19
yabsab 17
Terrorterran 16
Barracks 12
Yoon 10
Hm[arnc] 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Stork 7
Dota 2
Dendi559
XcaliburYe238
Other Games
singsing2295
B2W.Neo720
Pyrionflax264
crisheroes261
Sick193
Liquid`LucifroN84
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2280
BasetradeTV233
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH455
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2157
League of Legends
• Stunt494
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
4h 34m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Serral vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Solar
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.