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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 16 2013 22:03 GMT
#21
On January 17 2013 07:00 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I thought rhux was the support(sub)?

The sub can fill in where ever he's needed, that's up to the team to decide

Okay yeah, without Nyjacky I don't seem them being able to pull off any huge upsets, especially if Rhux goes Mid. He mains top and is pretty good at support, but I haven't really seen his mid play. Voy, Cop, and Jacky often split responsibility when it comes to carrying games, but if Rhux can't hold his own Mid that's going to spell trouble for the rest of the team.


Rhux did come out from Curse's 1v1 tournament so he should be decent in mid in an isolated environment. It's all up to his coordination with saint and how much pressure top and bot can exert to keep the enemy jungler away from mid.
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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
January 16 2013 22:11 GMT
#22
Again - A tournament post without a link to the corresponding leaguepedia page. Why is this???
Flaf?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 22:29:49
January 16 2013 22:24 GMT
#23
Some of the M5 scrims today and yesterday were being streamed, and they looked horrible in all that I saw. Not sure whats up with them. I hope they just didnt take these games serious and are actually in good shape.

Also kinda annoying how everybody is only talking about the 1 NA team out of the 8 teams present. I really wonder why they deserve so much more attention.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 16 2013 22:25 GMT
#24
rhux will be alright. i dont think he is an outstanding mid player though, his strength shines in top.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 16 2013 22:29 GMT
#25
On January 17 2013 07:24 Redox wrote:
So annoying how everybody is only talking about the 1 NA team out of the 8 teams present.


i dunno, that one NA team yells pretty loud

Group A: M5 Blaze
Group B: Fnatic Frost

Most interested to see how Fnatic does against Koreans. Hopefully they get to play both Azubus.
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
January 16 2013 23:47 GMT
#26
AZUBU HWAITING!!!
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 16 2013 23:49 GMT
#27
Group A: Blaze should make it, barring a major upset. GG looks shaky as already mentioned, Curse is playing a sub and MYM is probably in good shape, yet not prepared as their focus should be on the upcoming S3 Live Qualifier.

Group B: Again, Frost should have no problems here. fnatic is in a similar situation to MYM (probably in good shape, yet preparing for S3 instead of IEM), but also has to cope with their old/new AD carry. SK might "upset" - if they're preparing for S3 already, they should be prepared for fnatic anyway. AL is a wild card, yet a third tier team by EU standards that didn't even make it past the first round of the online qualifier.

Finals will be Frost vs Blaze with the usual close outcome, nigh unpredictable. Third/Fourth could be anyone, but if I had to bet, I'd go for MYM and SK. Yes, I chronically underrate fnatic, so I can be happier once they win
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3236 Posts
January 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#28
shame no fries in there any1 knows why?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 17 2013 00:38 GMT
#29
They were knocked down by M5 and eliminated by Fnatic.
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Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
January 17 2013 01:19 GMT
#30
As a European I will agree with the normal thoughts and go with: probably Azubu vs Azubu finals ) : dont think that a european team has a chance at the moment (maybe MyM can "upset" it but thats about it)
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 17 2013 01:24 GMT
#31
On January 17 2013 07:24 Redox wrote:
Some of the M5 scrims today and yesterday were being streamed, and they looked horrible in all that I saw. Not sure whats up with them. I hope they just didnt take these games serious and are actually in good shape.

Also kinda annoying how everybody is only talking about the 1 NA team out of the 8 teams present. I really wonder why they deserve so much more attention.

Sorry, that was the Curse fanboy in me.

Group A: Blaze/GG
Group B: Frost/Fnatic

Fnatic/Frost in the finals, Frost wins.
Blaze v Fnatic is kind of up in the air, I'm interested to see Yellowstar in action on Fnatic.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 17 2013 01:38 GMT
#32
I liked Curse's chances of putting up a fight in that group. The lack of Nyjacky really going to hurt. I hope they have a good vacation. Certainly though they were expected and did stomp their way through the NA qualifiers. Was thinking they would come into this with the do or die attitude as well. Then again its pretty obvious the majority of teams would be hard pressed to win a game in the spot they are.

Group A: Gambit/Blaze
Group B: Frost/SK
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 17 2013 01:46 GMT
#33
Group A is brutal wow. Prediction time from me then!

Group A: M5 + Blaze
Sorry, I just can't call them Gambit right now. Doesn't feel right. Anyway M5 is still a great team despite some team coordination problems recently. They are going to be tough for anyone to crack. The same applies to Blaze. Curse.na and MYM are both interesting teams and in theory they're capable of upsets. However, the biggest doubt I have is how slick their game plans are going to be and if they have the confidence to make snap-decision calls the same way M5/Blaze do.

Group B: Frost + Fnatic
Frost is Frost. The better of the two Azubu teams in OGN and very scary. I cannot see them not advancing from this group at all. The second spot is more contentious. I don't know what SK and aL's current form is like, so I am going to have to lean towards Fnatic due to their IPL5 performance. Despite losing Rekkles, it's not that big of a deal. They just need an AD who knows how and when to farm and just to play safe. The real drive from their team is xPeke and sOAZ controlling the tempo of the game. They have gaps in their play that can be abused, but I'm not sure the other teams have the playstyle to capitalise on it though.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 17 2013 02:16 GMT
#34
On January 17 2013 10:46 MoonBear wrote:
Group A is brutal wow. Prediction time from me then!

Group A: M5 + Blaze
Sorry, I just can't call them Gambit right now. Doesn't feel right. Anyway M5 is still a great team despite some team coordination problems recently. They are going to be tough for anyone to crack. The same applies to Blaze. Curse.na and MYM are both interesting teams and in theory they're capable of upsets. However, the biggest doubt I have is how slick their game plans are going to be and if they have the confidence to make snap-decision calls the same way M5/Blaze do.

Group B: Frost + Fnatic
Frost is Frost. The better of the two Azubu teams in OGN and very scary. I cannot see them not advancing from this group at all. The second spot is more contentious. I don't know what SK and aL's current form is like, so I am going to have to lean towards Fnatic due to their IPL5 performance. Despite losing Rekkles, it's not that big of a deal. They just need an AD who knows how and when to farm and just to play safe. The real drive from their team is xPeke and sOAZ controlling the tempo of the game. They have gaps in their play that can be abused, but I'm not sure the other teams have the playstyle to capitalise on it though.

Oh man, only one set of predictions, I hope you chose wisely.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 02:21:36
January 17 2013 02:21 GMT
#35
I wonder if Group A will show upsets or if it will be Az/Gambit/CRS/MYM as everybody expects.

Group 2 is a no-brainer though :/
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2320 Posts
January 17 2013 02:39 GMT
#36
All Azubu finals, no doubt
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
January 17 2013 09:36 GMT
#37
On January 17 2013 07:11 Jamial wrote:
Again - A tournament post without a link to the corresponding leaguepedia page. Why is this???


Just requoting this shamelessly for Jbright to give it some attention.
Flaf?
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
January 17 2013 12:11 GMT
#38
Az/Gambit/CRS/MYM as everybody expects.



I think most people expect:
AZ/Gambit/MyM/crs right? well at least I do it would surprise me if mym loses to curse
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 17 2013 12:39 GMT
#39
Group A: M5 (Such a better name than 'Gambit gaming') and Blaze
Group B: Frost and Fnatic

Sad that crs are playing with a sub, would have liked to see how they would have gone here. Can't see them progressing at all, I mean Alex Ich must be laughing looking at Rhux mid.

Hoping for Fnatic vs M5 finals!
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 13:00:02
January 17 2013 12:55 GMT
#40
I think after season 2 finals M5 or Gambit Gaming has lose their initial strength which is earlt agression and unorthodox picks.
If you see their matches on ipl5 they prefer to passive safe farm vs tpa and that cost their games. They dont theorycraft anymore pick copies the chinese and the koreans, their playstyle is complete different from 3-4 months ago. If they dont win this or at least get in the finals, i think its the end for them. I feel EU teams are falling more behind and withing 5-6 months the only teams that can compete with the Korean teams is the Chinese/taiwanese teams.

The reason why i think they will be inrelevant on season3. GG/ex-m5 dont have gaming house, i doubt they are getting one as Alex is married.
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