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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 20:33:06
December 01 2012 20:32 GMT
#3901
On December 02 2012 05:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Fuck Karthus, that champ is such bullshit. That ultimate just makes me soooooo angry.

to be fair katarina is as stupid as karthus
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2012 20:32 GMT
#3902
On December 02 2012 05:31 SoulSever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
I'd say that all in all there are probably <20 champs that shouldn't see competitive play, period.

The other ~80 all about comfort, playstyles, and drafting intelligently. By and large people saying champs are bad are totally misjudging them.


yeah, quite curious to see this list

I gave a liberal estimate because by and large people are going to disagree with the specifics. I could care less about the exact number or who's on it.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 01 2012 20:32 GMT
#3903
Karthus turns a NA lead into everything just going back to the way it was...so dumb lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
December 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#3904
If Curse NA can keep forcing these teamfights one after another they can win. So much shorter CD on their ults.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#3905
On December 02 2012 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Cop. 2 for 2!

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 05:26 Numy wrote:
Does Jacky not play Kat. That was the most overzealous kill attempt I've seen in awhile :<


clearly it works, but malunoo was there.


Nah there was exhaust still up and Karthus was full hp. That was kind of suicide form Jacky to engage. Best chase he manages to trade kills worse he gets killed like that. If he maybe didn't waste shunpo on engage and just ran in forced exhaust and back out it would have been goo.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 20:35:22
December 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#3906
5 for 6. Damn, Cop best arrower I've seen in a while.

EDIT:5 for 7
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 01 2012 20:35 GMT
#3907
On December 02 2012 05:32 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
I'd say that all in all there are probably <20 champs that shouldn't see competitive play, period.

The other ~80 all about comfort, playstyles, and drafting intelligently. By and large people saying champs are bad are totally misjudging them.

I think 20 is a bit too much.
I'm thinking:
Sejuani
Zed
Tryndamere
Volibear
Talon
Karma
Leblanc
Rammus
Fiora
Galio (unless CLG support Galio makes a comeback? Though Loco still needs to learn regular supports so doubt it)
Brand


Then there's really situational picks but I don't think it's fair to say they shouldn't see competitive play, hell look at the recent AP Yi, GP, and Nasus picks.

Heimer
AP Master Yi
Gankplank
AD Sion
Nasus
Mordekaiser
Poppy

Fizz gets a special placement because he's viable but no one plays him, at least in my opinion.

EC Tabzz plays Fizz
I too think Fizz is viable
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 01 2012 20:35 GMT
#3908
Yeah I've heard of Tabzz but I've never seen it in action. I'm too ignorant of the European scene o/
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
December 01 2012 20:35 GMT
#3909
Ashe becomes god tier if you hit all your arrrows : P.
444 444 444 444
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 01 2012 20:37 GMT
#3910
Curse.NA doesn't seem to have any sort of gameplan here.
Zero fighting.
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 01 2012 20:37 GMT
#3911
Dat laywaste was SOOO well timed, Katarina had no chance of doing anything after coming out of Zhonyas,
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 01 2012 20:37 GMT
#3912
On December 02 2012 05:35 HazMat wrote:
Yeah I've heard of Tabzz but I've never seen it in action. I'm too ignorant of the European scene o/


Didn't see him play Fizz much. Only time I've seen him play Fizz recently was when xPeke(Think it was him) picked Darius and pooped on him
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#3913
On December 02 2012 05:35 HazMat wrote:
Yeah I've heard of Tabzz but I've never seen it in action. I'm too ignorant of the European scene o/

It's almost always banned on him. Essentially similar to hsgg's nidalee, froggen's anivia, misaya's tf, etc etc.
liftlift > tsm
MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
December 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#3914
Is the NASL Sound guy working on the IPL 5 ? Because I have some weird sound switch.
@AbeggJip
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
December 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#3915
On December 02 2012 05:35 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Ashe becomes god tier if you hit all your arrrows : P.


if Corki had ashe ulti Cop would never play another champ again, Ever
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 20:41:31
December 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#3916
Damn, cop is 7 for 9 with arrows. THAT IS HOW YOU FUCKING PLAY. FUCK YEAH!!!!

Cop not just #1 phage proccer, he's #1 arrower. Nyjacky with DA PLAYS.
liftlift > tsm
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#3917
YES. Jacky you boss!!!!
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
December 01 2012 20:41 GMT
#3918
Oh resets :D
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 01 2012 20:41 GMT
#3919
and retarded katarina strikes again
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
December 01 2012 20:41 GMT
#3920
Wow that was an excellent ult from voyboy to zone all of them away from jax long enought to kill him, really wp by crs na.
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