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On November 04 2012 04:46 LaNague wrote:
ok, im really frustrated with this MLG.
so many delays and no info, just a "coming up next, go stare at screen for one hour, noobs". Meanwhile they dont even stream all games.
No idea why MLG is so big, looks very mismanaged.
Dont worry. MLG is living off massive venture capital. Its only matter of time until they stop throwing money in the money hole and just let it die. Meanwhile im enjoying Gom and IPL for actual high quality tournaments.
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Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.
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On November 04 2012 04:47 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 04:39 adriftt wrote:
The thing that is so impressive about KR LoL scene is the huge amount of top tier teams. China has IG and WE who are both very good but outside of that its pretty rough. TPA is great but the other TW teams are nowhere near them. M5 and (maybe) CLG.EU are good but the rest of EU is pretty far behind.
The main reason that China lags behind Korea IMO is that Korea had a massively greater infusion of talent at the start of it's competitive scene. Korean LoL more or less started with a small handful of semi-pro players who would form the first 3 Korean pro teams. They more or less covered every role in significant capacity, which would lead to bringing up future talent very rapidly. Chinese LoL started with basically nothing--the only knowhow they started with was CCM/iG picking up HKEGG, and even then they only kept Wh1t3zz and MikakoTabe. It's no coincidence that TF is China's signature AP, that Chinese bot lanes are so strong, and that Chinese top and jungle play is lacking.
I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about chinese scene but I think some of the lack of talent is due to China being so big on DoTA right? I know that they still play classic DoTA competitively there and iG has been dominating in DoTA2
But yeah you're right, the top SEA teams are all old NA players. TPA/WE at least I'm not sure about iG's current players
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On November 04 2012 04:47 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 04:39 adriftt wrote:
The thing that is so impressive about KR LoL scene is the huge amount of top tier teams. China has IG and WE who are both very good but outside of that its pretty rough. TPA is great but the other TW teams are nowhere near them. M5 and (maybe) CLG.EU are good but the rest of EU is pretty far behind.
The main reason that China lags behind Korea IMO is that Korea had a massively greater infusion of talent at the start of it's competitive scene. Korean LoL more or less started with a small handful of semi-pro players who would form the first 3 Korean pro teams. They more or less covered every role in significant capacity, which would lead to bringing up future talent very rapidly. Chinese LoL started with basically nothing--the only knowhow they started with was CCM/iG picking up HKEGG, and even then they only kept Wh1t3zz and MikakoTabe. It's no coincidence that TF is China's signature AP, that Chinese bot lanes are so strong, and that Chinese top and jungle play is lacking.
Also, China favours Dota 2 
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On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.
you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series?
Also dyrus sometimes does really well while his team doesn't.
Eve hasn't been nerfed yet in the khazik patch right?
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While I have only seen Chaox on Sivir twice, he was phenomenally underwhelming both times.
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On November 04 2012 04:51 adriftt wrote:
I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about chinese scene but I think some of the lack of talent is due to China being so big on DoTA right? I know that they still play classic DoTA competitively there and iG has been dominating in DoTA2
You're correct. As far as MOBAs go, DotA 1 is still the enormous elephant in the room.
On November 04 2012 04:51 adriftt wrote:
But yeah you're right, the top SEA teams are all old NA players. TPA/WE at least I'm not sure about iG's current players
Technically, this isn't quite correct for WE. While it's true that WE did play NA Go4LoLs and such in season 1, 4/5 of their current lineup weren't on the team yet at that point in time.
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On November 04 2012 04:53 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand. you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series?
No he means Dyrus, they banned Darius and Olaf. NaJin also banned those champs because Dyrus plays them.
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Eve + Shen gonna be real terror in mid game.
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Let's see if TSM can take down a turret today.
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Regi trying to be Alex Ich
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On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.
Cos hes the only one that ban-worthy? You normally don't ban bot lane except when you play vs Asian teams(dat Ezereal), Reginald mid kind of...whatever, Oddone doesn't strike that hes best with any particular junglers.
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On November 04 2012 04:53 foxmeep wrote:Also, China favours Dota 2
DotA 1. DotA 2 in China is still comparatively small, even though the professional teams play both and DotA fans like to lump them together.
On November 04 2012 04:55 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand. Cos hes the only one that ban-worthy? You normally don't ban bot lane except when you play vs Asian teams(dat Ezereal), Reginald mid kind of...whatever, Oddone doesn't strike that hes best with any particular junglers.
I actually think banning Oddone could have merit because TSM likes to pick junglers that he's bad at even knowing that he's bad at them.
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guys, guys, for the first time in my life im ready to take up ma pitchforks and start seriously boycotting/complaining about MLG. So many games aren't streamed (the good ones, too!) and it's making me so sad. Just bad organization. We shouldn't tolerate this.
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On November 04 2012 04:54 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 04:53 oogieogie wrote:On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand. you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series? No he means Dyrus, they banned Darius and Olaf. NaJin also banned those champs because Dyrus plays them.
eh would rather ban out dyrus then regi/TOO/chaox. Also top is just so snowbally that dyrus not getting his best champs is good.
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Eve has 100% winrate this tourny. TSM wins.
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On November 04 2012 04:55 TheYango wrote:DotA 1. DotA 2 in China is still comparatively small, even though the professional teams play both and DotA fans like to lump them together.
Is it because of the low system requirements of dota?
I was under the impression both are pretty much the same game,just that valve supports dota2.
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Solid late teamcomp for CLG EU, turtlefest incoming?
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