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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22061 Posts
November 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#1721
On November 04 2012 04:46 LaNague wrote:
ok, im really frustrated with this MLG.

so many delays and no info, just a "coming up next, go stare at screen for one hour, noobs". Meanwhile they dont even stream all games.
No idea why MLG is so big, looks very mismanaged.


Dont worry. MLG is living off massive venture capital. Its only matter of time until they stop throwing money in the money hole and just let it die. Meanwhile im enjoying Gom and IPL for actual high quality tournaments.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
November 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#1722
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.
Quote?
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
November 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#1723
On November 04 2012 04:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:39 adriftt wrote:
The thing that is so impressive about KR LoL scene is the huge amount of top tier teams. China has IG and WE who are both very good but outside of that its pretty rough. TPA is great but the other TW teams are nowhere near them. M5 and (maybe) CLG.EU are good but the rest of EU is pretty far behind.

The main reason that China lags behind Korea IMO is that Korea had a massively greater infusion of talent at the start of it's competitive scene.

Korean LoL more or less started with a small handful of semi-pro players who would form the first 3 Korean pro teams. They more or less covered every role in significant capacity, which would lead to bringing up future talent very rapidly.

Chinese LoL started with basically nothing--the only knowhow they started with was CCM/iG picking up HKEGG, and even then they only kept Wh1t3zz and MikakoTabe. It's no coincidence that TF is China's signature AP, that Chinese bot lanes are so strong, and that Chinese top and jungle play is lacking.


I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about chinese scene but I think some of the lack of talent is due to China being so big on DoTA right? I know that they still play classic DoTA competitively there and iG has been dominating in DoTA2

But yeah you're right, the top SEA teams are all old NA players. TPA/WE at least I'm not sure about iG's current players
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#1724
On November 04 2012 04:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:39 adriftt wrote:
The thing that is so impressive about KR LoL scene is the huge amount of top tier teams. China has IG and WE who are both very good but outside of that its pretty rough. TPA is great but the other TW teams are nowhere near them. M5 and (maybe) CLG.EU are good but the rest of EU is pretty far behind.

The main reason that China lags behind Korea IMO is that Korea had a massively greater infusion of talent at the start of it's competitive scene.

Korean LoL more or less started with a small handful of semi-pro players who would form the first 3 Korean pro teams. They more or less covered every role in significant capacity, which would lead to bringing up future talent very rapidly.

Chinese LoL started with basically nothing--the only knowhow they started with was CCM/iG picking up HKEGG, and even then they only kept Wh1t3zz and MikakoTabe. It's no coincidence that TF is China's signature AP, that Chinese bot lanes are so strong, and that Chinese top and jungle play is lacking.


Also, China favours Dota 2
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:54:07
November 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#1725
oh you meant darius.tt
Cackle™
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:54:50
November 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#1726
On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.

you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series?

Also dyrus sometimes does really well while his team doesn't.

Eve hasn't been nerfed yet in the khazik patch right?
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#1727
While I have only seen Chaox on Sivir twice, he was phenomenally underwhelming both times.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#1728
THE INFAMOUS YORICK PICK
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#1729
On November 04 2012 04:51 adriftt wrote:
I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about chinese scene but I think some of the lack of talent is due to China being so big on DoTA right? I know that they still play classic DoTA competitively there and iG has been dominating in DoTA2

You're correct. As far as MOBAs go, DotA 1 is still the enormous elephant in the room.

On November 04 2012 04:51 adriftt wrote:
But yeah you're right, the top SEA teams are all old NA players. TPA/WE at least I'm not sure about iG's current players

Technically, this isn't quite correct for WE. While it's true that WE did play NA Go4LoLs and such in season 1, 4/5 of their current lineup weren't on the team yet at that point in time.
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#1730
On November 04 2012 04:53 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.

you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series?


No he means Dyrus, they banned Darius and Olaf. NaJin also banned those champs because Dyrus plays them.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#1731
Eve + Shen gonna be real terror in mid game.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#1732
Let's see if TSM can take down a turret today.
Cackle™
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#1733
Regi trying to be Alex Ich
Administrator@TL_Zess
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#1734
On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.

Cos hes the only one that ban-worthy? You normally don't ban bot lane except when you play vs Asian teams(dat Ezereal), Reginald mid kind of...whatever, Oddone doesn't strike that hes best with any particular junglers.
Terran
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 19:56:20
November 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#1735
On November 04 2012 04:53 foxmeep wrote:
Also, China favours Dota 2

DotA 1. DotA 2 in China is still comparatively small, even though the professional teams play both and DotA fans like to lump them together.

On November 04 2012 04:55 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.

Cos hes the only one that ban-worthy? You normally don't ban bot lane except when you play vs Asian teams(dat Ezereal), Reginald mid kind of...whatever, Oddone doesn't strike that hes best with any particular junglers.

I actually think banning Oddone could have merit because TSM likes to pick junglers that he's bad at even knowing that he's bad at them.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#1736
guys, guys, for the first time in my life im ready to take up ma pitchforks and start seriously boycotting/complaining about MLG. So many games aren't streamed (the good ones, too!) and it's making me so sad. Just bad organization. We shouldn't tolerate this.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#1737
On November 04 2012 04:54 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:53 oogieogie wrote:
On November 04 2012 04:51 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why do people ban dyrus, I don't understand.

you mean darius? Did you see the dunks that he had in the curse vs tsm series?


No he means Dyrus, they banned Darius and Olaf. NaJin also banned those champs because Dyrus plays them.

eh would rather ban out dyrus then regi/TOO/chaox. Also top is just so snowbally that dyrus not getting his best champs is good.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#1738
Eve has 100% winrate this tourny. TSM wins.
Hey! How you doin'?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#1739
On November 04 2012 04:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 04:53 foxmeep wrote:
Also, China favours Dota 2

DotA 1. DotA 2 in China is still comparatively small, even though the professional teams play both and DotA fans like to lump them together.

Is it because of the low system requirements of dota?
I was under the impression both are pretty much the same game,just that valve supports dota2.
Cackle™
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9154 Posts
November 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#1740
Solid late teamcomp for CLG EU, turtlefest incoming?
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