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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:10 Kavas wrote: Team Dynamic 0-2 Azubu Blaze NaJin Sword 1-2 CLG.na Curse.na 0-2 Team SoloMid Dignitas 0-2 CLG.eu Seems right. I agree except I think Sword will beat CLG, and Curse will take one game off of TSM. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9215 Posts
CLG EU, TSM Tier 'out of form': Dignitas, Curse Tier 'roster overhaul': CLG NA, TD Tier 'one of them will win': NJSW, AZB | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22412 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:10 Kavas wrote: Team Dynamic 0-2 Azubu Blaze NaJin Sword 1-2 CLG.na Curse.na 0-2 Team SoloMid Dignitas 0-2 CLG.eu Seems right. Oo you really think CLG.NA is in the position to even take a game off a korean team? TD 0-2 Blaze Sword 2-0 CLG.NA Curse 1-2 TSM Dig 0-2 CLG.EU | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:32 Gorsameth wrote: Oo you really think CLG.NA is in the position to even take a game off a korean team? TD 0-2 Blaze Sword 2-0 CLG.NA Curse 1-2 TSM Dig 0-2 CLG.EU Off Najin Sword specifically. IDK but looking at their recent games they seem to have very definite issues. 1) When Maknoon isn't fed Sword seems to have no idea what to do since they have 0 initiator; their jungle tries but it feels they aren't on the same page and he is definitely not of the same caliber. 2) Ssong feels a lot like what people describe as passive mid-farmer. He doesn't pressure the map that much and his teamfighting is lacklustre. Of course this is against other korean mid-laners so I'm not sure how he matches up against Jiji. 3) Their bot lane is decent but I don't think they can matchup to Doubledoco. I'm pretty sure CLG.na could come up with some counter-measure against this. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:42 Kavas wrote: Off Najin Sword specifically. IDK but looking at their recent games they seem to have very definite issues. 1) When Maknoon isn't fed Sword seems to have no idea what to do since they have 0 initiator; their jungle tries but it feels they aren't on the same page and he is definitely not of the same caliber. 2) Ssong feels a lot like what people describe as passive mid-farmer. He doesn't pressure the map that much and his teamfighting is lacklustre. Of course this is against other korean mid-laners so I'm not sure how he matches up against Jiji. 3) Their bot lane is decent but I don't think they can matchup to Doubledoco. I'm pretty sure CLG.na could come up with some counter-measure against this. Najin Sword's botlane has been hailed by other Korean teams to be one of the best in Korea. Watching their games against Azubu Blaze and Frost recently seem to reinforce this idea imo | ||
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
1. Naijin Sword 2. Azubu Blaze 3. CLG EU 4. TSM | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22412 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:02 smOOthMayDie wrote: Does anyone here think Curse has the potential to win it? Not even a slim one. Both korean teams, CLG.EU and TSM are stronger and they will struggle vs TD, CLG.US and Dig. I like saint a lot but there team just isnt strong enough atm. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:42 Kavas wrote: Off Najin Sword specifically. IDK but looking at their recent games they seem to have very definite issues. 1) When Maknoon isn't fed Sword seems to have no idea what to do since they have 0 initiator; their jungle tries but it feels they aren't on the same page and he is definitely not of the same caliber. 2) Ssong feels a lot like what people describe as passive mid-farmer. He doesn't pressure the map that much and his teamfighting is lacklustre. Of course this is against other korean mid-laners so I'm not sure how he matches up against Jiji. 3) Their bot lane is decent but I don't think they can matchup to Doubledoco. I'm pretty sure CLG.na could come up with some counter-measure against this. You expect this to be a problem when Maknoon is facing Hotshot? Maknoon isn't going to "not get fed". Most of what you stated are issues against higher-caliber teams, but look at how they did at Worlds. They lost to TPA (but so did everyone else), but they beat CLG.Eu and Dignitas. I wouldn't put CLG.NA's current form ahead of CLG.Eu/Dignitas' form at Worlds. On November 03 2012 03:02 smOOthMayDie wrote: Does anyone here think Curse has the potential to win it? Given Curse's recent record at WESM, they have zero chance against either Korean team. They lost to WE's B-team that wins against literally nobody among other Asian teams lol. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:08 TheYango wrote: You expect this to be a problem when Maknoon is facing Hotshot? Maknoon isn't going to "not get fed". Most of what you stated are issues against higher-caliber teams, but look at how they did at Worlds. They lost to TPA (but so did everyone else), but they beat CLG.Eu and Dignitas. I wouldn't put CLG.NA's current form ahead of CLG.Eu/Dignitas' form at Worlds. Given Curse's recent record at WESM, they have zero chance against either Korean team. They lost to WE's B-team that wins against literally nobody among other Asian teams lol. Damn  I think the only reason I really like Curse is because Saintvicious and Elementz are on it. I want the two former CLG members to do really well | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:02 smOOthMayDie wrote: Does anyone here think Curse has the potential to win it? Curse is quite terrible as a team. They have a lot of work to do if they ever want to get competitive. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:26 Dan HH wrote: Tier 'out of practice': CLG EU, TSM Tier 'out of form': Dignitas, Curse Tier 'roster overhaul': CLG NA, TD Tier 'one of them will win': NJSW, AZB This sounds about right. Btw, does anyone know who is the sub for CLG.eu? | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:45 Redox wrote: This sounds about right. Btw, does anyone know who is the sub for CLG.eu? Supposedly LemonNation, oRb's support. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:53 NeoIllusions wrote: Supposedly LemonNation, oRb's support. What? I thought they announced they were going with some 2500 Elo EU support a week or two back. Did they end up getting LemonNation? | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 03 2012 03:34 smOOthMayDie wrote: What makes curse a bad team? Do they lack individual talent, or is it something else? Elementz and Westrice are really far behind other pro players and Cop is mediocre. Their teamwork seems okay but it doesn't make up for their individual weakness. Saint and Jacky are good though. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On November 03 2012 04:00 HazMat wrote: Elementz and Westrice are really far behind other pro players and Cop is mediocre. Their teamwork seems okay but it doesn't make up for their individual weakness. Saint and Jacky are good though. Westrice is the SilSol of tourny play, I believe Curse 2-1 TSM npnp. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On November 03 2012 04:07 Kouda wrote: Westrice is the SilSol of tourny play, I believe Curse 2-1 TSM npnp. What does SilSol of tourny play mean? Good or bad? | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On November 03 2012 04:12 smOOthMayDie wrote: What does SilSol of tourny play mean? Good or bad? Get shit on in lane, win game. | ||
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