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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 21:41:52
November 04 2012 21:40 GMT
#3541
I'm a little surprised Maknoon still isn't 6 items yet. Still got a Randuin to buy.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2012 21:40 GMT
#3542
On November 05 2012 06:39 fantasticoranges wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:36 SoulSever wrote:
but there's a reason CLG EU have a rather large amount of NA fans compared to Blaze who have almost had the same exposure to NA fans


That isn't right at all. While CLG.EU hasn't been around forever, the people in it have.
I know wickd has been around for a very long time.

The rest of blaze though? Eh... Not much exposure to na.


Also, everyone on CLGeu speaks English. No one on Blaze does afaik.

Why do people think Maknoon is so popular? lol
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 04 2012 21:40 GMT
#3543
On November 05 2012 06:40 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:39 fantasticoranges wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:36 SoulSever wrote:
but there's a reason CLG EU have a rather large amount of NA fans compared to Blaze who have almost had the same exposure to NA fans


That isn't right at all. While CLG.EU hasn't been around forever, the people in it have.
I know wickd has been around for a very long time.

The rest of blaze though? Eh... Not much exposure to na.


Also, everyone on CLGeu speaks English. No one on Blaze does afaik.

Why do people think Maknoon is so popular? lol

He posts on Reddit and speaks broken English.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 21:43:22
November 04 2012 21:42 GMT
#3544
On November 05 2012 06:38 jgoonld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:34 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:32 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:27 MoonBear wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:22 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:20 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:09 MoonBear wrote:
It's sadly just a fact that people are less engaged when they lack an emotional connection to the players or teams involved. As Yango has said, the real challenge to LoL is if Koreans/Other Asians take over everything and make it harder for people to want to care. I mean, look at MLG SC2. There's only been one foreign winner of an MLG ever since the Koreans arrived (HuK) and one other Finals with a Foreigner (Naniwa). Ever since 2012, no foreigner has made it to the Finals at all.


Yes, completely agree. I didnt play sc2 at all besides campaign and customs but I really enjoyed all the tournaments since beta. Since all these koreans popped up it just stopped being interesting because of the lack of connection with the players. Not that I am discriminating, it's just that they don't speak english and so it's harder for me to understand them and like their personality. The same holds true for football, I can't quite like some foreign players and teams (mostly eastern europeans and russians) although I believe they play phenomenally.

The fact that LoL is so much funier to play than it is to watch is due to the game being more fun to play than sc2 imo :p

I fail to understand why personality matters more than good play. It just doesn't make sense.

Watching tournaments and streams is about entertainment rather than education for the most part. That means you want to have an emotional connection to the media at hand for maximum impact (just like how you want to connect with the characters of a book or movie). Feeling the highs as your team wins, or the sad swings when they lose; it makes the experience more intense.


Exactly. If everyone was rooting for winners, last year everyone would be a Barcelona fan, this year everyone would be a Chelsea fan. Yet, why are so many ppl Mourinho fans if he doesnt win the biggest league since 04?

Apparently I'm the only person that likes to watch the best teams and players. Strange


Not the only, just probably in the minority. There are some people that watch the game for just their love of the game; but for a lot of people who watch any sort of competitive activities, they follow a few teams and individuals most closely. When the people that they have made some sort of emotional connection with are gone, they lose interest. I don't consider it bad or good, it's just how most of us work.

Oh come on. people are clearly overstating this point. There are maybe 20% less viewers less than for the most watched games with NA involvement. The people that only watch the NA games are the minority.

Or is it even 20%? Difference might be lower. Need solid numbers here.
Off-season = best season
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3545
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/12mbpy/im_mid_king_eur_move_top_3_korea_ladder/

Anyone know if this is legit?

My spidey senses are tingling really hard
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 21:43:20
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3546
#1 lesson from CLG: When all else fails, splitpush.

THEN dive when it's 4v4.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3547
Corki with three lives, Zil the manliest champion.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2338 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3548
Maknoon is the biggest troll lol.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3549
On November 05 2012 06:39 fantasticoranges wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:36 SoulSever wrote:
but there's a reason CLG EU have a rather large amount of NA fans compared to Blaze who have almost had the same exposure to NA fans


That isn't right at all. While CLG.EU hasn't been around forever, the people in it have.
I know wickd has been around for a very long time.

The rest of blaze though? Eh... Not much exposure to na.

I would argue Blaze has a fair amount of recognition since they were the first Korean team a lot of people saw, at the MLG Summer Arena. Captain Jack is pretty well known anyway.

On a different note, Lustboy does it again, Haunting Guise on Zyra. They lost but I like the idea of HG on supports.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3550
On November 05 2012 06:42 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:38 jgoonld wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:34 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:32 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:27 MoonBear wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:22 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:20 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:09 MoonBear wrote:
It's sadly just a fact that people are less engaged when they lack an emotional connection to the players or teams involved. As Yango has said, the real challenge to LoL is if Koreans/Other Asians take over everything and make it harder for people to want to care. I mean, look at MLG SC2. There's only been one foreign winner of an MLG ever since the Koreans arrived (HuK) and one other Finals with a Foreigner (Naniwa). Ever since 2012, no foreigner has made it to the Finals at all.


Yes, completely agree. I didnt play sc2 at all besides campaign and customs but I really enjoyed all the tournaments since beta. Since all these koreans popped up it just stopped being interesting because of the lack of connection with the players. Not that I am discriminating, it's just that they don't speak english and so it's harder for me to understand them and like their personality. The same holds true for football, I can't quite like some foreign players and teams (mostly eastern europeans and russians) although I believe they play phenomenally.

The fact that LoL is so much funier to play than it is to watch is due to the game being more fun to play than sc2 imo :p

I fail to understand why personality matters more than good play. It just doesn't make sense.

Watching tournaments and streams is about entertainment rather than education for the most part. That means you want to have an emotional connection to the media at hand for maximum impact (just like how you want to connect with the characters of a book or movie). Feeling the highs as your team wins, or the sad swings when they lose; it makes the experience more intense.


Exactly. If everyone was rooting for winners, last year everyone would be a Barcelona fan, this year everyone would be a Chelsea fan. Yet, why are so many ppl Mourinho fans if he doesnt win the biggest league since 04?

Apparently I'm the only person that likes to watch the best teams and players. Strange


Not the only, just probably in the minority. There are some people that watch the game for just their love of the game; but for a lot of people who watch any sort of competitive activities, they follow a few teams and individuals most closely. When the people that they have made some sort of emotional connection with are gone, they lose interest. I don't consider it bad or good, it's just how most of us work.

Oh come on. people are clearly overstating this point. There are maybe 20% less viewers less than for the most watched games with NA involvement. The people that only watch the NA games are the minority.

20% less viewers is a lot, especially when you take into account the fact that typically finals have MORE viewers than earlier stages, not less.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 04 2012 21:43 GMT
#3551
Meh Cpt Jack doesn't look very impressive against good teams.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 04 2012 21:44 GMT
#3552
just noticed maknoon sits in the middle of his team, which is really rare for a top-laner. just one more thing that shows how njs is centred around him
cool beans
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 04 2012 21:45 GMT
#3553
This week soloQ fotm: Nashor Tooth Jax ty Maknoob
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#3554
On November 05 2012 06:43 Doctorbeat wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/12mbpy/im_mid_king_eur_move_top_3_korea_ladder/

Anyone know if this is legit?

My spidey senses are tingling really hard

After reading over it swiftly I have a feeling its legit.
Off-season = best season
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#3555
On November 05 2012 06:44 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
just noticed maknoon sits in the middle of his team, which is really rare for a top-laner. just one more thing that shows how njs is centred around him


Pun intended?
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#3556
On November 05 2012 06:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
This week soloQ fotm: Nashor Tooth Jax ty Maknoob

That's next week, this week it's mid lee sin.
Glorious SEA doto
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
November 04 2012 21:49 GMT
#3557
What's wrong with Nashors Tooth on Jax?
Quote?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 04 2012 21:49 GMT
#3558
On November 05 2012 06:47 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:44 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
just noticed maknoon sits in the middle of his team, which is really rare for a top-laner. just one more thing that shows how njs is centred around him


Pun intended?

I think it's more a statement of fact rather than a pun lol
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#3559
Yiliang Peng ‏@Doubleliftx
After watching this game I can safely say Captain Jack gets carried by Lustboy
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 04 2012 21:51 GMT
#3560
On November 05 2012 06:44 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
just noticed maknoon sits in the middle of his team, which is really rare for a top-laner. just one more thing that shows how njs is centred around him


Yes! I noticed that during worlds as well. The team is definitely "his" in that he obviously makes the calls.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
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