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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3501
The thing is, I'd expect TL to have a much higher percentage of viewers with the necessary understanding to appreciate top-level play, so it's more or less expected that a lot of TL viewers would enjoy even seeing two "faceless" teams that play at the top level. But this isn't going to hold to communities that have lower average skill level, where the majority of viewers don't appreciate the nuances.

And even on TL we have players like Shake that have that high-level understanding and STILL value the emotional investment in a team they care about over seeing top level play.
Moderator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3502
wtf? sword throw so hard.
liftlift > tsm
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3503
LOL that fight

was intense.. but towers too good
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3504
Sword super dives and ignores the tower, and then dies to tower. LOL
Administrator@TL_Zess
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9805 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3505
rofl what
boomer hands
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3506
What the hell is happening... lol
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3507
On November 05 2012 06:27 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:22 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:20 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:09 MoonBear wrote:
It's sadly just a fact that people are less engaged when they lack an emotional connection to the players or teams involved. As Yango has said, the real challenge to LoL is if Koreans/Other Asians take over everything and make it harder for people to want to care. I mean, look at MLG SC2. There's only been one foreign winner of an MLG ever since the Koreans arrived (HuK) and one other Finals with a Foreigner (Naniwa). Ever since 2012, no foreigner has made it to the Finals at all.


Yes, completely agree. I didnt play sc2 at all besides campaign and customs but I really enjoyed all the tournaments since beta. Since all these koreans popped up it just stopped being interesting because of the lack of connection with the players. Not that I am discriminating, it's just that they don't speak english and so it's harder for me to understand them and like their personality. The same holds true for football, I can't quite like some foreign players and teams (mostly eastern europeans and russians) although I believe they play phenomenally.

The fact that LoL is so much funier to play than it is to watch is due to the game being more fun to play than sc2 imo :p

I fail to understand why personality matters more than good play. It just doesn't make sense.

Watching tournaments and streams is about entertainment rather than education for the most part. That means you want to have an emotional connection to the media at hand for maximum impact (just like how you want to connect with the characters of a book or movie). Feeling the highs as your team wins, or the sad swings when they lose; it makes the experience more intense.


Exactly. If everyone was rooting for winners, last year everyone would be a Barcelona fan, this year everyone would be a Chelsea fan. Yet, why are so many ppl Mourinho fans if he doesnt win the biggest league since 04?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3508
These Najin throws 0o
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3509
I switch to SC2 because I hear screams now I see sword got owned what just happened.
Glorious SEA doto
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 04 2012 21:32 GMT
#3510
Wtf was that NaJin. Such a bad dive.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
November 04 2012 21:33 GMT
#3511
Erm, Jax usually isn't supposed to be the primary initiator on a team.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 04 2012 21:33 GMT
#3512
On November 05 2012 06:32 MoonBear wrote:
Wtf was that NaJin. Such a bad dive.


terrible dive, game still over. just going to take longer now.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2012 21:34 GMT
#3513
Kr vs Kr, CLG.EU EDITION.
liftlift > tsm
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
November 04 2012 21:34 GMT
#3514
On November 05 2012 06:32 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:27 MoonBear wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:22 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:20 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:09 MoonBear wrote:
It's sadly just a fact that people are less engaged when they lack an emotional connection to the players or teams involved. As Yango has said, the real challenge to LoL is if Koreans/Other Asians take over everything and make it harder for people to want to care. I mean, look at MLG SC2. There's only been one foreign winner of an MLG ever since the Koreans arrived (HuK) and one other Finals with a Foreigner (Naniwa). Ever since 2012, no foreigner has made it to the Finals at all.


Yes, completely agree. I didnt play sc2 at all besides campaign and customs but I really enjoyed all the tournaments since beta. Since all these koreans popped up it just stopped being interesting because of the lack of connection with the players. Not that I am discriminating, it's just that they don't speak english and so it's harder for me to understand them and like their personality. The same holds true for football, I can't quite like some foreign players and teams (mostly eastern europeans and russians) although I believe they play phenomenally.

The fact that LoL is so much funier to play than it is to watch is due to the game being more fun to play than sc2 imo :p

I fail to understand why personality matters more than good play. It just doesn't make sense.

Watching tournaments and streams is about entertainment rather than education for the most part. That means you want to have an emotional connection to the media at hand for maximum impact (just like how you want to connect with the characters of a book or movie). Feeling the highs as your team wins, or the sad swings when they lose; it makes the experience more intense.


Exactly. If everyone was rooting for winners, last year everyone would be a Barcelona fan, this year everyone would be a Chelsea fan. Yet, why are so many ppl Mourinho fans if he doesnt win the biggest league since 04?

Apparently I'm the only person that likes to watch the best teams and players. Strange
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
November 04 2012 21:34 GMT
#3515
On November 05 2012 06:32 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:27 MoonBear wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:22 scarper65 wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:20 misirlou wrote:
On November 05 2012 06:09 MoonBear wrote:
It's sadly just a fact that people are less engaged when they lack an emotional connection to the players or teams involved. As Yango has said, the real challenge to LoL is if Koreans/Other Asians take over everything and make it harder for people to want to care. I mean, look at MLG SC2. There's only been one foreign winner of an MLG ever since the Koreans arrived (HuK) and one other Finals with a Foreigner (Naniwa). Ever since 2012, no foreigner has made it to the Finals at all.


Yes, completely agree. I didnt play sc2 at all besides campaign and customs but I really enjoyed all the tournaments since beta. Since all these koreans popped up it just stopped being interesting because of the lack of connection with the players. Not that I am discriminating, it's just that they don't speak english and so it's harder for me to understand them and like their personality. The same holds true for football, I can't quite like some foreign players and teams (mostly eastern europeans and russians) although I believe they play phenomenally.

The fact that LoL is so much funier to play than it is to watch is due to the game being more fun to play than sc2 imo :p

I fail to understand why personality matters more than good play. It just doesn't make sense.

Watching tournaments and streams is about entertainment rather than education for the most part. That means you want to have an emotional connection to the media at hand for maximum impact (just like how you want to connect with the characters of a book or movie). Feeling the highs as your team wins, or the sad swings when they lose; it makes the experience more intense.


Exactly. If everyone was rooting for winners, last year everyone would be a Barcelona fan, this year everyone would be a Chelsea fan. Yet, why are so many ppl Mourinho fans if he doesnt win the biggest league since 04?


Which league are you talking about? I would assume the Champions League but Mourinho won that in 2010 with Inter.
Zero fighting.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 04 2012 21:35 GMT
#3516
On November 05 2012 06:33 dukethegold wrote:
Erm, Jax usually isn't supposed to be the primary initiator on a team.


He is with Zilean bomb + speed + ult. Corki dived waaaaay too far though and Zilean couldn't ult both.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
November 04 2012 21:35 GMT
#3517
On November 05 2012 06:32 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, I'd expect TL to have a much higher percentage of viewers with the necessary understanding to appreciate top-level play, so it's more or less expected that a lot of TL viewers would enjoy even seeing two "faceless" teams that play at the top level. But this isn't going to hold to communities that have lower average skill level, where the majority of viewers don't appreciate the nuances.

And even on TL we have players like Shake that have that high-level understanding and STILL value the emotional investment in a team they care about over seeing top level play.


Im not saying I dont enjoy seeing them, I'm watching it right now. I just dont enjoy as much. Good teamfights still get the adrenaline pumping, but at the end of the game I just wont care who won.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 04 2012 21:36 GMT
#3518
the throws are strong
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
November 04 2012 21:36 GMT
#3519
sword forcing these too hard
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
November 04 2012 21:36 GMT
#3520
Not really trying to make this a race thing but my point was that the majority of people watching are most likely white and resent (even on a small level) asians teams smacking around their NA favorites. That isn't to say that KR teams can't have NA followings but there's a reason CLG EU have a rather large amount of NA fans compared to Blaze who have almost had the same exposure to NA fans
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