EPTOn October 08 2012 05:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so like, how long does it take to get good at dota2?
so like, how long does it take to get good at dota2?
You start to get decent after like 200~ games.
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
You start to get decent after like 200~ games. | ||
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Solaris.playgu
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On October 08 2012 05:53 PassiveAce wrote: You start to get decent after like 200~ games. TIL i am a horrible Dota2 player | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On October 08 2012 05:44 onlywonderboy wrote: Wins a win. SK should have know they had teleport off of cooldown and responded properly. They over committed in CLG's base without being able to finish the game, and in turn couldn't blue pill fast enough to get back and stop the CLG's teleport push. Those are elements of the game a pro team should be aware of and be able to react accordingly. I really disliked a lot of the excuses the NA teams made up though. The blue side strategy only thing from CLG made me facepalm. Oh don't get me wrong. SK got outplayed by CLG. But it's not even that great of a thing. The only game the NA teams won all tournament was against SK Gaming and it was won almost entirely based upon SK being stupid not CLG being amazing (although Doublelift did play that situation quite well). This isn't addressed to you but... It's fucking pathetic that the community and the teams are throwing out bullshit like Frost looking at the minimap (when TSM did too). As if that level 1 strategy failing caused TSM to get outplayed for the rest of the set (especially since Frost always level 1 checks brush so they would've gotten spotted anyway, Dyrus admitted this already too lol). Like it or not the NA teams are worse than the Asians and Europeans. The teams don't want to admit that, they want to protect their egos, and that's why NA will never win a Season Championship in LoL until a team is willing to say, "ok, we got our shit rocked and we have a lot of improving to do before we can challenge these teams." I mean, look at how hard iG rocked CLG. Or how hard Najin rocked Dignitas. And both of those teams have already been eliminated. Several teams look to be capable of beating Frost and will probably put up stronger showings than TSM did. Instead of taking a step back and saying, "the NA teams need a lot of improvement." The teams themselves and the actual community is looking for other reasons why they lost and going so far as to demand a DQ or a re-game. TSM, CLG, Dignitas are not even A tier teams. Get over it. Hopefully they improve enough to challenge quality teams in Season 3. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I've spent too much time and money on LoL, if I quit I ain't spending time learning another moba just to get that pissed again. | ||
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scarper65
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 08 2012 05:59 overt wrote: Oh don't get me wrong. SK got outplayed by CLG. But it's not even that great of a thing. The only game the NA teams won all tournament was against SK Gaming and it was won almost entirely based upon SK being stupid not CLG being amazing (although Doublelift did play that situation quite well). This isn't addressed to you but... It's fucking pathetic that the community and the teams are throwing out bullshit like Frost looking at the minimap (when TSM did too). As if that level 1 strategy failing caused TSM to get outplayed for the rest of the set (especially since Frost always level 1 checks brush so they would've gotten spotted anyway, Dyrus admitted this already too lol). Like it or not the NA teams are worse than the Asians and Europeans. The teams don't want to admit that, they want to protect their egos, and that's why NA will never win a Season Championship in LoL until a team is willing to say, "ok, we got our shit rocked and we have a lot of improving to do before we can challenge these teams." I mean, look at how hard iG rocked CLG. Or how hard Najin rocked Dignitas. And both of those teams have already been eliminated. Several teams look to be capable of beating Frost and will probably put up stronger showings than TSM did. Instead of taking a step back and saying, "the NA teams need a lot of improvement." The teams themselves and the actual community is looking for other reasons why they lost and going so far as to demand a DQ or a re-game. TSM, CLG, Dignitas are not even A tier teams. Get over it. Hopefully they improve enough to challenge quality teams in Season 3. TSM didn't made excuses for their loss, they said that Azubu Frost outplayed them - watch OddOne's interview, chaox and Regi, they all said the same. Oddone didn't even talk about the supposed cheat. Also, TSM is not AZF tier, but they are still at world level. Saying the opposite is just wrong. As for dignitas, I didn't hear them make any excuses. CLG.NA =/= all NA teams. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On October 08 2012 06:04 scarper65 wrote: are there going to any games played today? doesn't look like it. My money is on sometime mid next week | ||
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Solaris.playgu
Sweden480 Posts
On October 08 2012 05:57 Solaris.playgu wrote: So, why do they keep saying that WE is up 1-0 against CLG? Cuz I'm quite certain I saw CLG getting a comeback victory game 2 yesterday, before everything got fucked up. Nvm I'm an idiot, I am watching a rebroadcast LOL | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
TSM says Frost outplayed them but then throws in, "they cheated and that ruined our level 1 strategy." Doublelift admits to being outplayed but adds the caveat of getting purple every game. These teams shouldn't need to come up with any excuse. Saying, "we got outplayed but also xyz happened," is a shitty attitude to have. And no, I do not believe that TSM is at the same level of teams like iG, Najin, TPA, or M5. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 08 2012 06:05 Numy wrote: There was an interview where they said their strat got leaked. Ho dignitas ? didn't know | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
link from the interview plz | ||
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Shivaz
Canada1783 Posts
On October 08 2012 05:59 overt wrote: This isn't addressed to you but... It's fucking pathetic that the community and the teams are throwing out bullshit like Frost looking at the minimap (when TSM did too). As if that level 1 strategy failing caused TSM to get outplayed for the rest of the set (especially since Frost always level 1 checks brush so they would've gotten spotted anyway, Dyrus admitted this already too lol). Just a few of the facts straight, (I am not a TSM fan also I actually liked azubu frost before all this shit) http://i.imgur.com/hntqU.jpg That is the evidence of frost looking, and pinging top lane. - Dyrus looking was when regi was reporting about azubu looking with a riot employee and dyrus thought the game was going to be remade because of the paused (the game wasnt even started at that point) - Regi said in his own interview that they would have lost even if their lvl 1 strat worked so they are not using it as an excuse, and also even if it is an excuse i dont see how that relates to the fact whether azubu cheated or not, TSM can be bad and azubu can cheat they are not exclusive. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On October 08 2012 06:15 crms wrote: wait so is the entire tournament called off for now? Sorry I'm not really a LoL fan I tried watching this event with an open mind but seems they shit the bed? Cheating, production issues etc. If I believed in Karma I might think this is payback for all of Riot's shady dealings in regards to other moba games lol. takes time to find a venue and set up what's going to happen. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It was Dominate, not Crumbzz who made that claim. My b. 100% guarantee you that every team looked at the screen during one of their matches. Regardless of if it was caught on film or not. It's Riot's fault for poor stage set up. Crucifying all of the Asian teams is getting really close to racism lol. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On October 08 2012 06:21 nojitosunrise wrote: takes time to find a venue and set up what's going to happen. You mean the whole year that they had to prepare? | ||
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