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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:59 cascades wrote: Anyone has WE vs CLG game 2 vods Even with all the remakes and all. Can;'t find any I guess everyone pissed out. And the finals better have booths. Not negotiable. look at the bottom of OP. There is a link to every vod | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:59 cascades wrote: Anyone has WE vs CLG game 2 vods Even with all the remakes and all. Can;'t find any I guess everyone pissed out. And the finals better have booths. Not negotiable. trust me, you do not want to see that game, one of the most boring matches i have seen. clg is behind, turtles for 40 mins and then WE jungler gets caught 2 times and CLG wins. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9246 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:59 cascades wrote: Anyone has WE vs CLG game 2 vods Even with all the remakes and all. Can;'t find any I guess everyone pissed out. Don't do this to yourself, you deserve better. | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + good to see regi's being a good sports about it and although we have proof and frost and WE indeed "cheated" nobody should act hasty and bash frost superhard and if there's indeed a consequence for Frost there should be a huge shitstorm from the korean community and Im pretty sure k-netizens ( those guys are crazy) will find evidence that one of the western teams also looked behind them during a game at one point. riot pls There aren't any talks about the screen looking incidents in the korean community. Although there are a bit of posts about disappointment regarding the delay and they are really disappointed about that. Most of them are saying something along the lines of 'this wouldn't happen in korea'. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
It's Riot who should be blamed imo for the poor setup (why no booths etc instead of the ridiculous rotating stages). Also watching g2,3,4,5 of clg vs we is a complete waste of time. | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
On October 07 2012 19:03 WhiteDog wrote: If you watch the edited Reginald interview where he talk about that, they said that they watched Azubu Frost's game and found a flaws at the beginning : the support always ward the top bush. So they decided to just kill the support and get easy first blood. It's quite a good part of their strategy, I don't think it's something that cost them the game but still. I still really wanna see the edited out portion of that interview. I really do. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On October 07 2012 22:20 Jamial wrote: I still really wanna see the edited out portion of that interview. I really do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhDfMm58Xwg | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:15 LaNague wrote: riot allready stated that they watched the players and everything was ok, they cant just dismiss that and tell us that the stream footage would be of higher priority than their referees. well, they could, but then AF could use Riots statement to fight it. I dont think Riot wants this in a court. i also think everyone did it, but thats not a valid defence for cheating. I'm not sure how AF could take Riot to court if Riot decided that the refs screwed up in light of any other strong evidence they had for cheating. I'm sure the teams signed something to show up but in the end it is Riot's tournament. | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
Yes, I saw that. I wanna hear his ORIGINAL comments on it. | ||
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thefreed
United States222 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:29 Full.tilt wrote: People have already posted pics of Dryus checking out the minimap during a game pause. Of course if you make it THIS easy to cheat, like just turning your shoulders alittle and you see it, then people would maybe intentionally or unintentionally look at it. I am sure other people did this throughout the tournament if they felt the impulse to. | ||
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thefreed
United States222 Posts
You guys must be really butthurt by the Korean dominance in SC2 at the time. If someone really wanted to invest the time to catch any other teams cheating then I am sure they would find it. When Reginald said they looked over at AZUBU frost, they could also see AZUBU frost's minimap... So it's not like they didn't peek too. I mean it's really the fault of their being no booths I think. | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:29 Full.tilt wrote: People have already posted pics of Dryus checking out the minimap during a game pause. The thing is the minimap is supposet to be off during a pause... so more fuck ups by riot. If you see the same screenshot, Regi is actually talking to an admin two seats down from Dyrus - so unless Dyrus is really stupid he wasn't trying to sneak a glance. The sentiment seems to be that Regi was explaining to the admin that the minimap/screen was still on during the pause and Dyrus overheard and looked at it. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 07 2012 22:29 thefreed wrote: Of course if you make it THIS easy to cheat, like just turning your shoulders alittle and you see it, then people would maybe intentionally or unintentionally look at it. I am sure other people did this throughout the tournament if they felt the impulse to. The last curious thing is the fact that Riot had "verified" it with player's cameras. So either they are right and nobody did it, or they lie to us because everyone did it and they don't want to disqualify every team. Edit: Thinking back about this screen : http://i.imgur.com/hntqU.jpg On it, you can see on the minimap that Jayce was already top with Blitz when the ping went down. This means that Madlife wanted to ward the bush like (according to TSM) they usually do, and Shy went to help him to avoid any risk by checking with Q. I must say that I find all this stuff very annoying because it's an NA team complaining again. We've got Hotshitgg QQing, IWillDominate QQing, and now TSM. You lost NA, stop it and go do some training for season 3 dammit. Edit2: At the time of that pause, Riot was truing to make sure that Azubu wouldn't be blinded by the sun. Tell me how do you watch that minimap when you have a bright sun in your eyes. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
No idea why they would make up fake referees that only exist in marcous head. I think Riot needs to care less for prestige and more for integrity. -rotating stage vs booths -fancy outdoor vs safe indoor etc | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On October 07 2012 22:34 -Zoda- wrote: The last curious thing is the fact that Riot had "verified" it with player's cameras. So either they are right and nobody did it, or they lie to us because everyone did it and they don't want to disqualify every team. Regardless of Riot's attitude towards cheating in this instance, they still royally fucked up by letting this kind of ambiguity exist in the first place. How hard is it to just have 1 side open on those player desks? That's 4 walls to be made, and it could be just triplex or multiplex or anything simple, as the players have used just headsets for soundproofing anyway. Keep the front side open for contact with the audience. Easy as that. It would probably lessen the effect of sun glare as well. That's maybe ~200 bucks in material costs and you can set it up in less than an hour with adequate tools. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On October 07 2012 20:19 henrikyo wrote: If CLG.eu looses the 3rd game, shit will go down. Fine, WE was ahead on the first match that DC'ed. But CLG had everything going for them in the other matches that DC'ed. This event reeks of failure on riot's side. I hope they learned from valve and i2 I firmly believe that CLG could not have won the first game that got DCed. As we saw from the next few games CLG really only has one strategy and that is to take it waaay into the lategame where they are better at decision making and positioning in teamfights, then win one big teamfight or slow-push into next week. They wouldn't have been able to do this the first game that got DCed because they had short term memory loss or something and didn't think banning Blitz was a good idea. There is no way they could have turtled into the late game the way WE was landing those hooks. And lo and behold after the remake the only difference in bans was CLG banning out Blitz. I understand that what happened with the remakes had to happen, and you can't blame either team for it, but if we are talking about who would have won without any DC's then it would be WE 2-0 100%. Either way, Riot does need to make sure this doesn't happen again. As great as things like the French stream later in the day was, it does not look favorably upon Riot. | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
http://gosugamers.net/lol/gosubet/130850 Edit:It probably invalid since Riot had not release anything on the schedule. | ||
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