• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:16
CEST 07:16
KST 14:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy6[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Bot on ladder BSL Season 23 [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8331 users

[IPL] San Francisco Showdown Discussion - Page 33

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 64 Next
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
August 12 2012 20:20 GMT
#641
anybody know where I can find that Phantomlord vid of him dying in the jungle? after he thought he had escaped?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 12 2012 20:24 GMT
#642
On August 13 2012 05:20 kleetzor wrote:
anybody know where I can find that Phantomlord vid of him dying in the jungle? after he thought he had escaped?


lol the the right topic ask right?

http://www.own3d.tv/PhantomL0rd/video/685557

only knew where it was because it was featured on own3d site for several weeks now.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:25:10
August 12 2012 20:24 GMT
#643
On August 13 2012 05:20 JonnyLaw wrote:
Triple jungle ban but leave cow open? Seems questionable from MTW.

edit - @above Spectator is synced with player's game.

Honestly, I'd leave Shyvana open because you know that all Saint does on Shyvana is try to dive your AD Carry as hard as possible, even if it's not the correct decision. Maybe they were scared of Ori-Shyvana combo? Then again, I am bad at drafting.

Even if they first picked Ali and somehow Curse banned Shen there's still Mundo open. Saint's competitive jungle pool may be small, but it's not quite old-HSGG-level bannable.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 12 2012 20:25 GMT
#644
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
August 12 2012 20:27 GMT
#645
Who decided to let westrice play Akali? He goes from the weak link to the best player on the team.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 12 2012 20:27 GMT
#646
On August 13 2012 05:20 JonnyLaw wrote:
Triple jungle ban but leave cow open? Seems questionable from MTW.

edit - @above Spectator is synced with player's game.

Jungle cow in a tournament is different than in solo queue. If your team is confident they can not get ganked via wards and not pushing then cow is pretty weak.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#647
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.


try and make trist super cuddly safe and get him to late game where nunu makes him super big? idk guess and cause graves
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 12 2012 20:29 GMT
#648
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.

Cop+Ele isn't at the level where they can just farm champions with Graves. Which is kinda what Graves should be doing against a weak lane. A little odd. Most likely mTw is looking for the team-fight power rather than lane power.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:32:05
August 12 2012 20:30 GMT
#649
On August 13 2012 05:28 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.


try and make trist super cuddly safe and get him to late game where nunu makes him super big? idk guess and cause graves


Soraka's mana sustain is useless on Tristana - Tristana does not use E spam to harass. Tristana wins lanes via being aggressive and goes all-in - Soraka does not help with that. I think Tristana needs an aggressive support such as Alistar or Leona.

This is not the first time I see this pairing, but honestly I feel that this is not the ideal combination.


On August 13 2012 05:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.

Cop+Ele isn't at the level where they can just farm champions with Graves. Which is kinda what Graves should be doing against a weak lane. A little odd. Most likely mTw is looking for the team-fight power rather than lane power.


And Soarka has more team fight power....? More than Leona?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
August 12 2012 20:30 GMT
#650
i sitting between regi and leena. greatest cockblock gg.
GANDHISAUCE
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 12 2012 20:31 GMT
#651
On August 13 2012 05:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:28 CeriseCherries wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.


try and make trist super cuddly safe and get him to late game where nunu makes him super big? idk guess and cause graves


Soraka's mana sustain is useless on Tristana - Tristana does not use E spam to harass. Tristana wins lanes via being aggressive and goes all-in - Soraka does not help with that. I think Tristana needs an aggressive support such as Alistar or Leona.

This is not the first time I see this pairing, but honestly I feel that this is not the ideal combination.

Maybe they just wanted Soraka in their teamcomp instead of going for the lane. At the tournament level bot lane, just like all lanes, is just a farm fest. They probably want Soraka because shen ult + soraka ult turns around ganks so well which is what cow and akali will be looking to do.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 12 2012 20:32 GMT
#652
boring game t.t not even dragon contest
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:36:36
August 12 2012 20:34 GMT
#653
On August 13 2012 05:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.

Cop+Ele isn't at the level where they can just farm champions with Graves. Which is kinda what Graves should be doing against a weak lane. A little odd. Most likely mTw is looking for the team-fight power rather than lane power.


And Soarka has more team fight power....? More than Leona?

The heal is pretty big reversal power against the burst of, say, Akali who wants to chain kills. Soraka+Anivia helps turtle if they need to. Passive helps too. Having a ranged support in lane is also a big deal rather than Leona's melee. Ranged-CC from the silence also helps more than the melee-stun. That's how I see it at least.

On August 13 2012 05:30 De4ngus wrote:
i sitting between regi and leena. greatest cockblock gg.

Lol
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:38:29
August 12 2012 20:37 GMT
#654
On August 13 2012 05:34 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.

Cop+Ele isn't at the level where they can just farm champions with Graves. Which is kinda what Graves should be doing against a weak lane. A little odd. Most likely mTw is looking for the team-fight power rather than lane power.


And Soarka has more team fight power....? More than Leona?

The heal is pretty big reversal power against the burst of, say, Akali who wants to chain kills. Soraka+Anivia helps turtle if they need to. Passive helps too. Having a ranged support in lane is also a big deal rather than Leona's melee.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:30 De4ngus wrote:
i sitting between regi and leena. greatest cockblock gg.

Lol


Well now I think about it they are also running Anivia, so Soraka will help in that aspect.

But this is such a farm feast on the bottom lane.... if Tristana does not get ahead in the early game it's hard to win the mid game with her.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 12 2012 20:37 GMT
#655
So will we be seeing Athenes on Nunu or not, gentlemen? :D
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 20:39:47
August 12 2012 20:39 GMT
#656
On August 13 2012 05:37 Celial wrote:
So will we be seeing Athenes on Nunu or not, gentlemen? :D


no since its jungle nnunu!! athenes top nunu only!!!


On August 13 2012 05:30 De4ngus wrote:
i sitting between regi and leena. greatest cockblock gg.


lol, is she pretty in rl?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 12 2012 20:39 GMT
#657
On August 13 2012 05:37 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:34 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Why does aphromoo/muffinQT like to run Tristana + Soraka? It feels to me that they have the worst synergy possible.

Cop+Ele isn't at the level where they can just farm champions with Graves. Which is kinda what Graves should be doing against a weak lane. A little odd. Most likely mTw is looking for the team-fight power rather than lane power.


And Soarka has more team fight power....? More than Leona?

The heal is pretty big reversal power against the burst of, say, Akali who wants to chain kills. Soraka+Anivia helps turtle if they need to. Passive helps too. Having a ranged support in lane is also a big deal rather than Leona's melee.

On August 13 2012 05:30 De4ngus wrote:
i sitting between regi and leena. greatest cockblock gg.

Lol


Well now I think about it they are also running Anivia, so Soraka will help in that aspect.

But this is such a farm feast on the bottom lane.... if Tristana does not get ahead in the early game it's hard to win the mid game with her.

Considering how passive they're playing and with Anivia turtle+Shen splitpush, I think they're content to just let it run into the late-game and have Nunu press W on Trist.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
August 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#658
Aphro/muffin don't even need to try and push Graves or even win lane. Just make it to mid/late game and all team fights will be 4v5 since SV has no successful ganks as Ali which will make him so useless after the initial hb/pulv.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 12 2012 20:43 GMT
#659
So apparently...

KR > NA > CN.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13422 Posts
August 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#660
On August 13 2012 05:32 CeriseCherries wrote:
boring game t.t not even dragon contest


I am trying to learn a little bit of lol and this is for sure really boring for me

That one hour long game earlier with the Spawn Ultimate by Reginald I think (the player not the champ idk what champ it is lol) was fun to watch.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 64 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 180
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1917
GuemChi 1351
Leta 548
sorry 49
Snow 31
Icarus 5
League of Legends
JimRising 727
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox510
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor222
Other Games
WinterStarcraft648
Maynarde149
Livibee126
Sick117
ViBE57
Mew2King56
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH71
• mYiSmile16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21667
League of Legends
• Lourlo1097
• Rush803
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 44m
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
5h 44m
Monday Night Weeklies
10h 44m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Light vs EffOrt
OSC
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
GSL
6 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.