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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#5021
On March 09 2012 21:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:50 cascades wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:48 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
It wasn't a HSGG throw. Anyone on their team could have been not retarded and said to fight with two 4000g items more on their team. HSGG was just the one who got caught and was split pushing. Got a 8000g advantage as a team, threw it as a team.


Depend IF someone called it, or IF hotshotgg would listen.

If hotshot went against what his team wanted, and himself said that they should split push against even one of his teammates, then the loss is entirely his fault. If CLG as a team thought hotshot should split push, then it's all their throw, hotshot just was the unfortunate dead.

To be fair it was like, the worst team to split against. Between heroes like nocturne and ashe there's a good chance you could get caught if you don't have vision for like 5 seconds.
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
March 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#5022
On March 09 2012 21:52 generalyao wrote:
First, doublelift first game. Second, hotshotgg 2nd game.


to be fair... urgot is gonna dominate a melee support (ali) and short range AD (vayne). Thats just my opinion and I don't feel like it was really Dlift throwing it. You could see he had a hard time and just got zoned out by Genja's fantastic urgot play.

Not to mention Genja landed some suhhhhweeet ultis mid game.

Oh and stop giving away free dragons CLG! Behind you give dragon.. ahead you give dragon ?? Can't compute.
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#5023
On March 09 2012 21:54 billy5000 wrote:
neglecting dragon really allowed m5 to get back into the game. clg's arrogance is hilarious. if they had controlled dragon with an early lead, they would have cut off m5's economy for sure. of course, m5's comp is heavily directed at late game, and dragon helped for sure. oh and hs throwing the game lol

once i heard chauster saying: "dragon is overrated", i was like :O
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#5024
Reecopibe: REPORT CHO GATH PLEASE

Hehehe...

I don't think it's a big deal HS got caught. It happens. Especially with split pooshers, but it makes games more exciting. Lee Sin is really strong. SO TRUE. One big problem almost all AD's have with nocturne is the ult dive. Since your allies aren't always gonna be in position to save you, then you either have to be tristana, because if you kill noct u get low, or get some more defensives

One thing I really hated was that the last fight ended without me understanding wtf happened. I just watched DL get ulted. The spectator experience of LoL is worse than that of SC2.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 09 2012 12:55 GMT
#5025
On March 09 2012 21:54 beefhamburger wrote:
DL needs to learn more champs? Who else could he really pick up? He's quite good with like every AD already.


He's way better at Vayne/Cait then at most ad's. HS probably meant that he should get the others up to S-class level.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 09 2012 12:56 GMT
#5026
On March 09 2012 21:54 beefhamburger wrote:
DL needs to learn more champs? Who else could he really pick up? He's quite good with like every AD already.

He only plays like ezreal, caitlyn, and vayne.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 12:56:18
March 09 2012 12:56 GMT
#5027
On March 09 2012 21:53 Pinith wrote:
I'd say Hotshot (or someone else on CLG) correctly predicted that M5 had the stronger team fight comp. The only late game team fight they won was when kennen got totally caught with no chance to flash or ult

So split pushing with cho had merit. The problem was ashe+nocturne being able to catch him out pretty easily.

Pretty sure that if they fought with the 10k gold lead they wouldn't have lost those teamfights
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
March 09 2012 12:56 GMT
#5028
On March 09 2012 21:54 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:49 triangle wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:48 Zealot Orgy wrote:
7W-0L


And yet tomorrow people will give Dignitas the odds.

M5 has won multiple games because of opponents fucking up terribly.

Dignitas' only loss came when they fucked up terribly, otherwise they've looked dominant.


So someone with written "United States" next to his name claiming that a United States team is much better because a Russian team wins "because of others mistakes" in which dimension should be considered an un-biased comment?

I was not claiming Dignitas is better I am explaining to you why arguing Dignitas is better is not unreasonable, despite their worse record.

Did you even watch the games? Are you telling me M5's wins today looked better than Dignitas's? C'mon man.

Also I'm actually in the UK
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5029
what a heartbreaking game...

im pretty sure CLG can come back stronger than ever from that though
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5030
Getting caught also directly led to a baron for M5.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5031
On March 09 2012 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:53 Pinith wrote:
I'd say Hotshot (or someone else on CLG) correctly predicted that M5 had the stronger team fight comp. The only late game team fight they won was when kennen got totally caught with no chance to flash or ult

So split pushing with cho had merit. The problem was ashe+nocturne being able to catch him out pretty easily.

Pretty sure that if they fought with the 10k gold lead they wouldn't have lost those teamfights

The one dragon that stood out to me was when they were pushing bottom, they backed off, were getting chased, had an opportunity to fight for dragon and they all just backed off with a 10k gold lead. Udyr was a bit chunked but honestly not so much to warrant backing off a fair fight otherwise.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5032
On March 09 2012 21:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
I love it.
The only thing we need now is TSM giving CLG shit for losing against M5! Reddit drama go!



HAHAHA this so much, time for a new VLOG
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5033
He also plays Corki really well and said his Kog is good (according to him), so that leaves like Sivir and Trist? Sivir would be a nice pickup for that utility.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5034
On March 09 2012 21:55 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:54 billy5000 wrote:
neglecting dragon really allowed m5 to get back into the game. clg's arrogance is hilarious. if they had controlled dragon with an early lead, they would have cut off m5's economy for sure. of course, m5's comp is heavily directed at late game, and dragon helped for sure. oh and hs throwing the game lol

once i heard chauster saying: "dragon is overrated", i was like :O

It is overrated. The problem is that when CLG isn't in the position to contest dragon, they're usually also not in the position to punish the other team overcommitting people to take dragon.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
March 09 2012 12:57 GMT
#5035
Wasn't DL a really good Lee at some time? It would be interesting if they pull that out in the future.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#5036
On March 09 2012 21:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:54 beefhamburger wrote:
DL needs to learn more champs? Who else could he really pick up? He's quite good with like every AD already.

He only plays like ezreal, caitlyn, and vayne.

i wish he could have played kogmaw =(
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#5037
On March 09 2012 21:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:54 beefhamburger wrote:
DL needs to learn more champs? Who else could he really pick up? He's quite good with like every AD already.


He's way better at Vayne/Cait then at most ad's. HS probably meant that he should get the others up to S-class level.

I think he meant that they need to practise more AD/support combos.
Which is true, Chauster and DL both play like 3 champs each. Kog/nunu would already be a huge step up from Cait/Nunu concerning lategame-power.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
March 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#5038
Yeah, for example, doublelift isn't good at ashe. he even said on his stream a while ago that he doesn't know ashe well. I feel like CLG could run some sick team comps with ashe. Seeing M5 and other good teams with ashe makes ashe look so op.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#5039
On March 09 2012 21:57 Bwaaaa wrote:
Wasn't DL a really good Lee at some time? It would be interesting if they pull that out in the future.


Chauster is. Chauster also has a really good Vlad, and a good Xerath.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#5040
Doublelift renowned fksk at Ashe, doesn't know how to play pussy (true pussy, cait and ez can be aggressive and disengage a lot easier). I'm sure they'll want to practice more Urgot also, even though Dbl knows how to play him.
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