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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#2441
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


because he got buffed and is super stronk now. basically the same reason why shen was permaban back in the day, he's just really annoying to play against. Annoying lane, annoying ult, annoying splitpush.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#2442
On March 08 2012 00:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


Near infinite sustain, scales incredibly hard off HP items, allows for insane split pushing midgame, denies most mid game ganks.

And only true global in the game left.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#2443
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


He has very strong laning phase post buffs and his global ultimate presence and intimidation factor of changing any 1/2/3/4vX fight immediately the other way. If he gets his farm and his health up he is nearly unkillable while being highly disruptive, capable 1v1er and splitpusher.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
March 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#2444
On March 08 2012 00:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


Near infinite sustain, scales incredibly hard off HP items, allows for insane split pushing midgame, denies most mid game ganks.


Huh. Was this always the case or was it the recent buffs he received (if any)?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 07 2012 15:05 GMT
#2445
On March 08 2012 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
m5 going for the "protect the kog"

The correct way to play protect the kog. Offensivly, not defensivly.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 07 2012 15:05 GMT
#2446
On March 07 2012 23:56 HazMat wrote:
Can soneone give me a rundown of who Moscow5 are? I've never heard of them but it seems they won Kiev? And they're famous for something?


Russian Team that did extremely well online and had an impressive first performance at IEM Kiev, winning the entire tournament.

Known for an extremely aggressive playstyle, impressive counterjungling and scary coordination during teamfights. They will try to aggressively take enemy buffs by invading the enemy jungle with several players. And if they get a chance to dive... they will dive and kill you. They often put their enemies on backfoot with relentless aggression and capitalize on small slip-ups with even more aggression.

On a more negative note, they are also known for being bad mannered. Having a huge feud with TSM, that started because of some rumors that they were shit talking about TSM on their russian stream. Nobody actually knows if that's true but they have shown some quite questionable manners during game chat while playing in online tournaments.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 15:07:01
March 07 2012 15:05 GMT
#2447
On March 07 2012 23:56 HazMat wrote:
Can soneone give me a rundown of who Moscow5 are? I've never heard of them but it seems they won Kiev? And they're famous for something?


- Started getting noticed by beating a few top teams in (SK, TSM and some others) in scrims and Go4lols
- Untested on big stage going into Kiev but considered dark horse
- Completely dominated the tourney with a previously unseen style that revolved around hyper aggressive counter jungling and generally really co-ordinated teamwork
-- Didn't drop a game all tourney until the final
- Arguably popularised several now common picks like Shyvanna and support Nunu
- Had quite a few interesting picks and strategies such as giving GP buffs at level 1 then sending him bot lane to 2v1, their AD carry building triple dorans > wriggles > PD, bot lane AD Kennen
- That video that Craton linked

edit

Wow so slow =(
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 07 2012 15:05 GMT
#2448
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.

Or maybe, just maybe, they don't think Shen's that strong?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 07 2012 15:06 GMT
#2449
On March 08 2012 00:04 Meteora.GB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


Near infinite sustain, scales incredibly hard off HP items, allows for insane split pushing midgame, denies most mid game ganks.


Huh. Was this always the case or was it the recent buffs he received (if any)?

Recent buffs. Go watch CLG vs aAa from yesterday if you want to see what happens if a Shen gets farmed.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 07 2012 15:06 GMT
#2450
On March 08 2012 00:04 Meteora.GB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


Near infinite sustain, scales incredibly hard off HP items, allows for insane split pushing midgame, denies most mid game ganks.


Huh. Was this always the case or was it the recent buffs he received (if any)?


Recent buffs. He even got hotfix'd nerfs soon after. Still stronk.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21943 Posts
March 07 2012 15:06 GMT
#2451
On March 08 2012 00:04 Meteora.GB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:03 Meteora.GB wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.


Why is Shen banned all the time now?


Near infinite sustain, scales incredibly hard off HP items, allows for insane split pushing midgame, denies most mid game ganks.


Huh. Was this always the case or was it the recent buffs he received (if any)?


Yep, buffed in Nautilus patch, then nerfed in a hotfix but it didnt do much to nerf him (minor sustain and dmg reduction)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
March 07 2012 15:07 GMT
#2452
Why does twitch hate me so much lag today its really really painful to watch.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 07 2012 15:07 GMT
#2453
How has CandyPanda/Nyph done so far btw? Missed all SK games, are they finally rising back to their former glory or still mediocre playing?
#freeshauni
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 15:09:25
March 07 2012 15:08 GMT
#2454
On March 08 2012 00:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.

Or maybe, just maybe, they don't think Shen's that strong?

Eu never got shen, even in the first round of his buff->nerf cycle. They still dont get him after THIS buff cycle. God if I know why. Hard to explain why an entire set of top teams can be so horribly wrong.

But then again, they still think amumu is a top tier jungle. So Eu teams do get weird at times.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 07 2012 15:09 GMT
#2455
Amumu is gonna be so fked if SK don't start defending jungle.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 07 2012 15:09 GMT
#2456
On March 08 2012 00:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:05 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.

Or maybe, just maybe, they don't think Shen's that strong?

Eu never got shen, even in the first round of his buff->nerf cycle. They still dont get him after THIS buff cycle. God if I know why. Hard to explain why an entire set of top teams can be so horribly wrong.

But then again, they still think amumu is a top tier jungle. So they Eu teams do get weird at times.


Can't remember a single recent tournament or scrim where any team ran mumu jungle...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
March 07 2012 15:09 GMT
#2457
I like how SK picked the most vulnerable jungler in the game vs the most aggressive counterjungler on the most aggressive champion (except maybe shaco).
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 07 2012 15:10 GMT
#2458
On March 08 2012 00:09 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 00:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:05 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 00:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
EU don't understand Shen, lol.

Not banned or picked.

Or maybe, just maybe, they don't think Shen's that strong?

Eu never got shen, even in the first round of his buff->nerf cycle. They still dont get him after THIS buff cycle. God if I know why. Hard to explain why an entire set of top teams can be so horribly wrong.

But then again, they still think amumu is a top tier jungle. So they Eu teams do get weird at times.


Can't remember a single recent tournament or scrim where any team ran mumu jungle...

There was an interview before an IEM last year when an EU jungle stated that they were gonna make the Americans realize why Mumu was a common ban in Europe. Didnt work out that way.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 07 2012 15:10 GMT
#2459
EU doesn't think Amumu is top tier lol, I'm baffled by the amumu pick either, I know snoopeh wants to rerun him but he says its unviable atm.

EU for some reason don't play shen much besides aAa, why? I have no idea
Go go Alliance.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 15:12:31
March 07 2012 15:11 GMT
#2460
On March 08 2012 00:09 TheLink wrote:
I like how SK picked the most vulnerable jungler in the game vs the most aggressive counterjungler on the most aggressive champion (except maybe shaco).


Makes you think what goes on the pro's minds sometimes

SK really, trying to counter jungle _the_ counter jungler

darien doesn't even pop his red pot lol
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