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Live Stream: 01:00 GMT (+00:00) February 23th
European Rebroadcast: 17:30 GMT (+00:00) February 24thStream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/ipl_lolVoDs will be uploaded here: http://www.youtube.com/IPLLoLOfficial Page / Rules: http://esports.ign.com/lol/rulesOriginal Announcement Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=300757IPL Killing Spree Week 1 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302399IPL Killing Spree Week 2 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304255IPL Killing Spree Week 3 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306565IPL Killing Spree Week 4 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308568IPL Killing Spree Week 5 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310477IPL Killing Spree Week 6 Discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=312651With Guest Commentary from Dan Dihn!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IB13B.png) + Show Spoiler [Team Rosters] ++ Show Spoiler [TSM] +Top Lane: TheRainMan
Middle Lane: Reginald
Bottom Lane AD: Chaox
Bottom Lane Support: Xpecial
Jungler: TheOddOne Top Lane: MrParadoXical
Middle Lane: NintendudeX
Bottom Lane AD: Pixel3
Bottom Lane Support: EliteJC
Jungler: NOthing12real + Show Spoiler [Game 1] +TSM Bans: Shen, Sona, CassiOPeia
Mono ESPORTS Bans: (First) Karthus, Meowkai, Rammus
TSM Picks: Koggles, GP, Shyvananana, Nununu, Ziggs
Mono ESPORTS Picks: Ryze, Janna, Graves, Udyr, Skarner
TSM Bans: Udyr, Ryze, Ahri
Mono ESPORTS Bans: Shen, Rammus, CassiOPeia
TSM Picks: Sona, Sivir, Maokai, Gragas, Vlad
Mono ESPORTS Picks: Shyvanna, Graves, Janna, Irelia, Xerath
TSM Bans: Udyr, Ryze, Shen
Mono ESPORTS Bans: Ahri, Rammus,
TSM Picks: Gangplank, Karthus, Soraka, Yorick, Tristana
Mono ESPORTS Picks: Rumble, Janna, Graves, Nocturne, Cassiopia
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Dem small teamsPoll: Fill in the Blank: The best TSM strategy is _________ .Blame Rainman (17) 47% BAYLIFE (16) 44% Rage (2) 6% Snowball-Meta (1) 3% Wriggles E'rrywhere (0) 0% 36 total votes Your vote: Fill in the Blank: The best TSM strategy is _________ . (Vote): Rage
(Vote): Snowball-Meta
(Vote): Wriggles E'rrywhere
(Vote): Blame Rainman
(Vote): BAYLIFE
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Well hopefully TSM is off the "Snowball Meta" bullshit after they lost vs CLG. In a Vlog one TSM member talked about how they realized it was wrong to go into a series with set strategy and they should go back to picking comps based on what the enemy picks. No idea who the other team is, just recognize Nintendude and ParadoX from some streams.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Blame Rainman imo. Bot fails? Blame Rainman. Regi feeds? Blame Rainman? Rainman plays like shit? Obvious solution is to blame Rainman.
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I think you forgot to update the dates in the OP.
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On February 24 2012 04:16 Craton wrote:
I think you forgot to update the dates in the OP.
Lies! I definitely did not copy and paste my template and forget to edit that part. :o
Tyty :3
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Hahaha dammit, can't decide between BAYLIFE and Blame Rainman :/
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this is probably the strongest time to play TSM soo.. could be an upset// after the curse dissapointment everyone's playing solo queue.. but then again.. it's only a week. Lol
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Hi! Testing this brand new account. =)
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On February 24 2012 04:06 Roffles wrote:
Blame Rainman imo. Bot fails? Blame Rainman. Regi feeds? Blame Rainman? Rainman plays like shit? Obvious solution is to blame Rainman.
I always laugh when people start blaming rainman.
He is easily the best player on TSM by far.
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On February 24 2012 09:54 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 04:06 Roffles wrote:
Blame Rainman imo. Bot fails? Blame Rainman. Regi feeds? Blame Rainman? Rainman plays like shit? Obvious solution is to blame Rainman. I always laugh when people start blaming rainman. He is easily the best player on TSM by far.
...wait really... i mean i would definitely put chaox and xpecial ahead of him, and non-derp regi... idk TOO fits in to that list
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United States37500 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:54 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 04:06 Roffles wrote:
Blame Rainman imo. Bot fails? Blame Rainman. Regi feeds? Blame Rainman? Rainman plays like shit? Obvious solution is to blame Rainman. I always laugh when people start blaming rainman. He is easily the best player on TSM by far.
Hmm, this is the first time I've ever heard someone on TL make this claim.
Can't say I agree with it either...
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So, this is pretty exciting... Killing Spree is now on TL's event calendar! Thanks for watching and discussing every week, folks! Without you this wouldn't be possible. =)
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I don't see it either. Regi has his good days and bad days, oddone does his best to let regi snowball, Chaox is consistently good, as is xpecial, rainman often does poorly and rarely does he actually carry his team.
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United States37500 Posts
Stream hiccup'ing for anyone else?
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yea getting the same issue neo
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United States6533 Posts
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No issues for me, seems good.
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btw game name is tsm bAYLIFEBRO so I think we know the correct answer for the poll
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720 is running perfect for me, 720+ and 480 hiccup, doesn't make much sense to me...
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United States37500 Posts
On February 24 2012 10:11 daemir wrote:
No issues for me, seems good.
Irony that 3 US guys lag but the Finnish guy is all happy. :3
Hiccups (full pauses in stream/sound) still happening but less frequent now.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 24 2012 10:14 NotSorry wrote:
720 is running perfect for me, 720+ and 480 hiccup, doesn't make much sense to me...
Thanks.
I'll try 720.
Edit: derp, 720 is perfect. Also confused but hey, it works.
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On February 24 2012 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:Irony that 3 US guys lag but the Finnish guy is all happy. :3 Hiccups (full pauses in stream/sound) still happening but less frequent now.
HAHA justice, for once it's this way around :D
watching 720p and it's smooth, try that if you are currently on 720+
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United States37500 Posts
Mm Bans (first): Karth Mao Rammus
Mm Picks: Ryze Janna Graves Udyr Skarner
TSM Bans: Shen Sona Cass
TSM Picks: Kog GP Shy Nunu
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United States37500 Posts
TSM last pick is Ziggs?
Stream lagg0ring again. ;_;
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On February 24 2012 10:15 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 10:14 NotSorry wrote:
720 is running perfect for me, 720+ and 480 hiccup, doesn't make much sense to me... Thanks. I'll try 720. Edit: derp, 720 is perfect. Also confused but hey, it works.
Yeah, same thing happens with Own3d for me. HD always works perfectly, but the lower quality streams are unwatchable for me. I imagine it's something to do with their servers giving priority to HD over the lower qualities.
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United States37500 Posts
Mm has lane advantage over all imo. But TSM's team fight synergy is a lot better.
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meh TOO on shyvana...
lol xpecial nunu support stronk?
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United States37500 Posts
Just noticed TSM with Nunu Shy and Kog. Real Kiev impacted still.
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hmmm featured now... first time I'm watching it because I actually know it's on
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United States37500 Posts
IGN has a nice partnership with TeamLiquid, so IPLLoL gets some love on the TL calendar starting today. :3
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hmm nunu ulti + gp ulti + ziggs ulti should be fun to watch if they ever go off together
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United States37500 Posts
Xpecial opens BB on Nunu. Weird.
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toy soldier GP has no attack animations.....
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Anyone else finding the stream unwatchable? Super choppy.
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On February 24 2012 10:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
IGN has a nice partnership with TeamLiquid, so IPLLoL gets some love on the TL calendar starting today. :3
as long as IPL also brings the SC2 content, seems like a double win 
stream is rly choppy for me, anyone else the same? tried 240/360p
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Mm prolly assumed shyvana jungle and picked udyr to counter gp top, but udyr misplayed badly when shyvaan had red buff and tried to ignore her.
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United States6533 Posts
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graves gets 13 min pickaxe/bf sword/ and red pot
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very chill comentary from dan dihn.
stream getting worse and worse on the video side audio isn't a problem.
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Now I'm getting stream issues, whenever a teamfight breaks out it's slide show 
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Rainman..losing top, no offense but this isn't exactly carrying the team  It's a hard lane I'll give him that, but he had a sizeable early lead.
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strem getting bad... TRM losing lane lol
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oddone's GP is very very lacking
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rainman getting destroyed farmwise and ryze is keeping up with ziggs, gonna be 2 very tanky monsters lategame. Can chaox carry all that hmmm
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TRM is so sad on TSM stream
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seriously man...udyr is pushing AT the 2nd tower (after stealing red) and oddone is derping around with GP
poor rainman
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Pretty much impossible to gank udyr at this point, with no cc on shyvana. All oddone would be doing is saving the tower hp.
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On February 24 2012 10:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Pretty much impossible to gank udyr at this point, with no cc on shyvana. All oddone would be doing is saving the tower hp.
ya this situation could have been avoided 5-9 minutes ago if GP wasn't walking around aimlessly
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Not really, he'd keep the first tower alive longer but udyr has sufficient ward coverage that he won't lose more than 30% of his hp which he can instantly regain. GP would fall behind in farm. GP would have needed oracles or something to make it work.
Heavily disagree on the choice of getting atmas over finishing trinity but it works. Coulda had trinity +ruby over kindlegem+atmas and would be much more effective IMO, following up with randuins becaues atmas armour is useless against a bloodboil kog, randuins is your best bet with aegis on skarner and frozen on ryze.
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And fight breaks out to chase udyr, ults being used and stream turns into a slide show all the sudden...sux
and this caster is the first one I've heard of talking about tier towers and it's confusing me. Outer/inner/inhib/nexus much more clear huehue
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For example trinity udyr would probably have gotten away from that gank not that he shoulda got caught in the first place.
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Watching any of TSM's streams is just depressing, they don't seem into it at all :/
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O my lord, TSM beating themselves hard.
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That Kog build is killing his team. Graves just does so much more damage with now.
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Kog was caught by triple flash in the last teamfight, so he didn't do any damage at all. With TRM and TOO's builds they really really need his damage.
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Just tuned in. Looks like TSM still trying to M5. To the same (lack of) success.
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And that engage on Kog was a chain event of fail initiates. First skarner flash initiates but fails it, backs off, then ryze flashes front to W kog, then Udyr flashes to stun kog, the whole team was coming into the 1 by 1 by 1.
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On February 24 2012 10:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
Just tuned in. Looks like TSM still trying to M5. To the same (lack of) success.
M5 = 3 tanky bruisers who are really farmed.
TSM = 2 very farmed carries and 2 underfarmed bruisers with mostly tank items.
It just doesn't work like that.
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Regi gets caught near baron, shurelia skarner ult, that's baron and probably game right after
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mono played really well that game
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On February 24 2012 11:03 daemir wrote:
Regi gets caught near baron, shurelia skarner ult, that's baron and probably game right after
the funniest thing is Regi was saying to TSM "don't get engaged on, don't fight... (skarner gets him) oh fuck im dead. gg im bad"
...doran-wriggle-PD shit... i mean im not a pro, but it feels like theres no fucking damage
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Udyr top always put down as a strong lane only yet consistently doing well in teamfights sup bros.
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How did regi lose lane with Ziggs vs Ryze..........
O_O
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TSM really need to stop running M5, it's clear that they don't reallly know how to use it effectively and is costing them way too many games. Also, GL trying to play Protect the Kog without any hard CC
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On February 24 2012 11:08 dooraven wrote:
TSM really need to stop running M5, it's clear that they don't reallly know how to use it effectively and is costing them way too many games. Also, GL trying to play Protect the Kog without any hard CC
...i mean they weren't behind in CS, and the game was about even in kills for such a long time... idk they fucked up teamfights and they weren't confident
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On February 24 2012 11:08 dooraven wrote:
TSM really need to stop running M5, it's clear that they don't reallly know how to use it effectively and is costing them way too many games. Also, GL trying to play Protect the Kog without any hard CC
Offensive protect the kog works, you just need a jungle ant top lane that know how to build tanky dps effectively. TRM and TOO dont know how to do that.
The goal of offensive protect the kog (from which M5 is modified) involves getting your tanky dps really farmed so that they become threats on their own before the kog scales into the game. For example, if you get shyv and gp really freakin farmed and unkillable, then they dive on the enemy and present them with the "oh crap what do we do now? If we dont kill shyv and gp they gonna kill us, but theres a kog too, so WTF."
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Some constructive criticism about the cast: RedBaron needs a new haircut!
Seriously though :D
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United States6533 Posts
rainman getting raped on tsm stream
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lol TSM defaulting to their favorites: sona, sivir, maokai...
sigh TRM sounds so sad... and missed pick... getting yelled at
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this is my first time watching IPL KS, thought id tune in because i saw it was featured. tell me whats going on :x
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Wow, Reainmain fucking up. Whole team hating on him. Well, mainly Regi, but still.
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Bans:
TSM: Udyr Ryze Ahri
Mono: Shen Rammus Cassiopeia
Picks:
TSM: Sona Sivir Maokai Gragas Vlad
Mono: Shyvanna Graves Janna Irelia Xerath
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On February 24 2012 11:24 johnnywup wrote:
this is my first time watching IPL KS, thought id tune in because i saw it was featured. tell me whats going on :x
bascially rainman is like sad and not paying attention and in general derping, accidnetally auto locked, and so they had to quit
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TSM123. Reginald knows how to keep good password secrets.
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On February 24 2012 11:25 Shiv. wrote:
Wow, Reainmain fucking up. Whole team hating on him. Well, mainly Regi, but still.
Went for BAYLIFE 
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United States6533 Posts
well they did wait until the last second to decide the pick. sometimes takes a while to find a champ =/
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On February 24 2012 11:28 De4ngus wrote:
well they did wait until the last second to decide the pick. sometimes takes a while to find a champ =/
according to TRM he thought he was picking Gragas for Regi
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On February 24 2012 11:14 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:08 dooraven wrote:
TSM really need to stop running M5, it's clear that they don't reallly know how to use it effectively and is costing them way too many games. Also, GL trying to play Protect the Kog without any hard CC Offensive protect the kog works, you just need a jungle ant top lane that know how to build tanky dps effectively. TRM and TOO dont know how to do that. The goal of offensive protect the kog (from which M5 is modified) involves getting your tanky dps really farmed so that they become threats on their own before the kog scales into the game. For example, if you get shyv and gp really freakin farmed and unkillable, then they dive on the enemy and present them with the "oh crap what do we do now? If we dont kill shyv and gp they gonna kill us, but theres a kog too, so WTF."
Not like Ryze, Janna, Graves, Udyr, and Skarner all completely shit on melee range champions..............
They should've just picked bruisers that can actually do something against that....... Like Irelia/Riven/Yorick
Or better yet, pick heavy pokez
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TSM going for one of their more standard comps this game.
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Wow, Regi and TOO doing so much work mid!
Regi up 2-0 already
3-0 now...
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TSM looking a lot better this game... but irelia much more farmed than TRM
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this game is already in FROO mode, a term I just made up meaning Full Retard Or Over. one team has to derp really hard for this to turn around.
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On February 24 2012 11:45 UniversalSnip wrote:
this game is already in FROO mode, a term I just made up meaning Full Retard Or Over. one team has to derp really hard for this to turn around.
So in other words we're just 5 minutes away from TSM falling apart?
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i dont even think Doublelift levels of facechecking can throw
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20min update:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eBdZg.jpg)
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And this is what happens when TSM plays TSM and not M5.
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GG's
1-1, final score 9-1 in kills
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Is TSM not at their gaming house anymore? oddone looks like he's somewhere else.
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On February 24 2012 12:08 killerdog wrote:
Is TSM not at their gaming house anymore? oddone looks like he's somewhere else.
They're still there, just not all in the same room anymore. Reginald, TOO, TRM are upstairs in their rooms while Chaox and Xpecial are next to each other in the 'old' gaming room.
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LOL CHAOX GOING KARTHUS/SORAKA BOT... yorick vs cass mid... total baylife
FUCK they decided to srs and make regi karthus and put TRM top again -.- nooooo
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On February 24 2012 12:20 TheTurk wrote:
TSM too strong dude.
lol TRM counterpicked chaox
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I don't really get how Tristina works well with Soraka. Well it does work, you just can't utilize Tristina's early game kill potential well.
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Bans:
TSM: Udyr Ryze Shen
Mono: (missed , I assume Mayokai was one of them)
Picks:
TSM: Gangplank, Karthus, Soraka, Yorick, Tristana
Mono: Rumble, Janna, Graves, Nocturne, Cassiopia
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On February 24 2012 12:23 BlackMagister wrote:
I don't really get how Tristina works well with Soraka. Well it does work, you just can't utilize Tristina's early game kill potential well.
orginally chaox wanted karthus-soraka bot, but they got scared cause not enough AD damage because TRM went yorick to counter cass, so they pussied out into normal meta, but stuck with soraka, and went trist because gp + karthus ult
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~15min Update:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gWNBW.jpg)
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edit: nvm, wrong heroes got them mixed up
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chaox pulled a doublelift (NEED TO BUY BEFORE BARON FIGHT) and loses his team the game
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7:54 PM - snip: 28 minutes FROO mode engaged
7:54 PM - snip: that was incredibly even
7:54 PM - snip: by which I mean boring
7:54 PM - snip: since nothing happened until minute 28
7:55 PM - snip: they could have just parked one guy at every creep camp and cleared them for 28 minutes
7:55 PM - snip: and then conceded
7:55 PM - snip: about as much action
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On February 24 2012 12:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
7:54 PM - snip: 28 minutes FROO mode engaged
7:54 PM - snip: that was incredibly even
7:54 PM - snip: by which I mean boring
7:54 PM - snip: since nothing happened until minute 28
7:55 PM - snip: they could have just parked one guy at every creep camp and cleared them for 28 minutes
7:55 PM - snip: and then conceded
7:55 PM - snip: about as much action
There REALLY needs to be a better way to do that. Baron ward wars so fucking annoying.
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that was the most boring and anti climactic game I've ever seen.
Both sides too afraid to fight......
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Yep.
Also, One day teams will understand the importance of hard CC, one day.
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janna, best support in the game right now
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EPT
