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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
October 13 2011 21:37 GMT
#881
Toin coss, eh?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#882
On October 14 2011 06:37 Ryalnos wrote:
Toin coss, eh?


For FP/FB.
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jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#883
game length to decide tiebreakers zzzzz
aka Sowelulol
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#884
On October 14 2011 06:34 Woony wrote:
I think Phreak just confirmed that tiebreakers are solved by win/loss time.

Teams shouldn't be allowed to surrender then.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#885
Fnatic vs Dignitas now.
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Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#886
On October 14 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:34 Woony wrote:
I think Phreak just confirmed that tiebreakers are solved by win/loss time.

Teams shouldn't be allowed to surrender then.


Surrendering is BAD for you.
Bluebush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
October 13 2011 21:40 GMT
#887
Here's hoping that they change the tiebreaker thing next season. I know they're kind of bound to it at the moment but surely they know how stupid it is. Especially when you have groups of 4.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
October 13 2011 21:40 GMT
#888
On October 14 2011 06:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:33 BlueFlames wrote:
On October 14 2011 06:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
I honestly don't understand why TSM keeps trying to do weird lane setups. They've tried the 1v2 botlane like every time for the past 3 tourneys and every time it freaking fails. TSM has got to stop doing weird shit and trying so hard to counter the meta.

Honestly, if they just went Yorick top, Cait mid, Brand/Ali bot from the get-go, game would've been so much different.


I think the thing that lost them the game were the teamfights. Yorick catched up really fast, unnaturally fast. So the laneswitch was ok. The rammus jungle who raped them, was a problem they did not account for. Or Shushei hitting every effing ulti almost perfectly.

Well, I kinda disagree cause Yorick's strongest point is the fact that he can completely dominate his lane. By sending him bot, you basically completely give that up. TRM basically spent the first 20-25 minutes of the game playing catch-up, when he should've instead made it the other way around for.

TSM tried to have Brand/Ali deny Kass top, but Ali decided to roam and completely defeated the purposed of a 2v1 top lane.

Then the huge lane switches put them even more behind. Honestly, if they just sent Yorick top to annoy Kass and had Brand/Ali bot with Ali not roaming they would've been able to teamfight so much better.

Altho yes, Fnatic's comp was much much stronger in general than TSM's.


You are right, it put them behind, but it did not lose them the game. Yoricks main point is using his ulti right, and farming like a maniac during laning-phase. As i said he really catched up well, so he was not useless lategame. But he got caught off guard too many times. If you cant ulti your carry of ap carry, then your failed your ulti and the damage you do is not worth picking yorick.

To be honest i did not undertand the laneswitch at all. It seemed that the laneswitch confused TSM more than it did Fnatic. Which is weird cause they chose to do this.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 13 2011 21:40 GMT
#889
On October 14 2011 06:39 Pooshlmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
On October 14 2011 06:34 Woony wrote:
I think Phreak just confirmed that tiebreakers are solved by win/loss time.

Teams shouldn't be allowed to surrender then.


Surrendering is BAD for you.


Derp. Problem is giving the winner a huge time adv. >_>
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#890
What do you guys think is the reason TSM is struggling so hard lately? I feel like them overexperimenting with lane switches and different picks is currently not really paying off, but might be a great advantage of experience to have in the near future. Right now it feels like they are overvaluing weird stuff a la new RS metagame. Not that it isn't great, but they obviously are not used to it and fail to capitalize on it for the most part. I'm not really sure though. Last game against fnactic, it looked like they didn't really either communicate well enough as a team or failed to execute them properly. Not really sure, I just feel like as of lately, they are just off their A-game.

Opinions?
currently rooting for myself.
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
October 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#891
ok phreak. lets get away from crossdressing and hear about the games. kk? ^^
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#892
inb4 Phreak -> Vayne photoshops
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:43:49
October 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#893
Bans
Fnatic: Ryze
D: Kass
Fnatic: Akari
D: LS
Fn: Zilean
D: Talon

Fnatic scouted well, huehue.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 13 2011 21:43 GMT
#894
On October 14 2011 06:42 Woony wrote:
inb4 Phreak -> Vayne photoshops

I would be tempted to do that, except I fear what I would create. I shall not defile my computer with this.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#895
noooo, not phreak and rivington.

1 guy screaming and telling me what i see on the screen with 10 words per second is plenty enough.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:46:13
October 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#896
Picks
Fn: Morg
D: Trundle Sona
Fn: GP Kog
D: Cait Udyr
Fn: Janna Swain
D: KATARINA
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#897
Dignitas is really loving their sona/trundle.
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
October 13 2011 21:45 GMT
#898
On October 14 2011 06:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:39 Pooshlmer wrote:
On October 14 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
On October 14 2011 06:34 Woony wrote:
I think Phreak just confirmed that tiebreakers are solved by win/loss time.

Teams shouldn't be allowed to surrender then.


Surrendering is BAD for you.


Derp. Problem is giving the winner a huge time adv. >_>


That would require the losing team to not care while the winning team can only tiebreak. Is there a potential situation like that?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 13 2011 21:45 GMT
#899
On October 14 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:34 Woony wrote:
I think Phreak just confirmed that tiebreakers are solved by win/loss time.

Teams shouldn't be allowed to surrender then.

Did anyone surrender?
Off-season = best season
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 13 2011 21:45 GMT
#900
LoL esports hwaiting. Gooo Dignitas.
Retvrn to Forvms
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