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Canata`s commentary on LotV - Page 7

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phfantunes
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil170 Posts
July 10 2015 14:01 GMT
#121
I'm just a platinum player (so really bad) and I agree with him.

At first I was mad hype when I got LotV beta, but I much prefer HotS' pace.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
July 10 2015 14:46 GMT
#122
On July 08 2015 18:39 Superouman wrote:
Before : "There is not enough micro! Give us more things to micro!"

After : There are too many things to micro! Give us less things to micro!"

Sigh...


There's good micro and bad micro. Good micro is something like you see Protoss do in SC1 with Dragoons, Zealots, Storm and Reavers and what not. Bad micro is the C&C3/RA3 mantra of ADD MORE SKILLS!

An RTS is not a moba. Active skills are not good for RTS games IMO.
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
July 10 2015 15:04 GMT
#123
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 10 2015 15:32 GMT
#124
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.
jotmang-nojem
Profile Joined May 2015
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 15:56:27
July 10 2015 15:51 GMT
#125
While we're talking about MOBAs, there's one thing canata said I disagree with:

하스스톤도, 히어로즈 오브 더 스톰도 간단하고 쉬운 조작을 바탕으로 깊이 있는 전략과 전술로 팬들을 끌어들었다.

Heartstone and Heroes of the Storm have been gathering many fans due to the deep tactics and strategies based on easy controls.


LOL, Heroes of the Storm is the fastest blizzard fail I've seen. Out of Top10 most played in Korean PCBang, not even lasting one month. Despite a huge marketing campaign and even nationwide free PCBang event for HoTS.

Dustin Browder + David Kim = Designers of Fail!!!
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
July 10 2015 16:10 GMT
#126
On July 11 2015 00:32 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.

And so will 50000 other TL members who all think the same way.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 10 2015 16:18 GMT
#127
On July 11 2015 01:10 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 00:32 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.

And so will 50000 other TL members who all think the same way.

But I really, really like money.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
July 10 2015 16:34 GMT
#128
On July 11 2015 01:18 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 01:10 RoomOfMush wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:32 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.

And so will 50000 other TL members who all think the same way.

But I really, really like money.

Help me develop my oculus rift RTS that facebook can buy from us for a billion dollars.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 10 2015 16:42 GMT
#129
On July 11 2015 01:34 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 01:18 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 01:10 RoomOfMush wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:32 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.

And so will 50000 other TL members who all think the same way.

But I really, really like money.

Help me develop my oculus rift RTS that facebook can buy from us for a billion dollars.

Do I have to do something myself? Because I'm not that good at actually doing something. But I'm pretty good at letting others do work that I was supposed to do!
HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
July 10 2015 17:06 GMT
#130
On July 08 2015 13:43 -NegativeZero- wrote:
kind of ironic that this is a common attitude nowadays given so many people's initial complaints that sc2 was too dumbed down compared to bw...

damn if you do, damned if you don't
yo
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
July 10 2015 17:20 GMT
#131
On July 11 2015 01:42 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 01:34 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 11 2015 01:18 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 01:10 RoomOfMush wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:32 Big J wrote:
On July 11 2015 00:04 Kimb3r wrote:
Warcraft 4 last chance for RTS!!


RTS will never die!
Give me your money and I'm gonna make you an RTS game that's going to rock the gaming industry and esports.

And so will 50000 other TL members who all think the same way.

But I really, really like money.

Help me develop my oculus rift RTS that facebook can buy from us for a billion dollars.

Do I have to do something myself? Because I'm not that good at actually doing something. But I'm pretty good at letting others do work that I was supposed to do!

You are perfect for middle management.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
July 10 2015 17:23 GMT
#132
On July 11 2015 00:51 jotmang-nojem wrote:
While we're talking about MOBAs, there's one thing canata said I disagree with:
Show nested quote +

하스스톤도, 히어로즈 오브 더 스톰도 간단하고 쉬운 조작을 바탕으로 깊이 있는 전략과 전술로 팬들을 끌어들었다.

Heartstone and Heroes of the Storm have been gathering many fans due to the deep tactics and strategies based on easy controls.


LOL, Heroes of the Storm is the fastest blizzard fail I've seen. Out of Top10 most played in Korean PCBang, not even lasting one month. Despite a huge marketing campaign and even nationwide free PCBang event for HoTS.

Dustin Browder + David Kim = Designers of Fail!!!


While I disagree on Heroes being a fail at all, I admit that DK and Bowder should be fired as soon as possible. They fuck up what they touch with the "ideas we found very cool" and "players will adapt to".

vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
July 10 2015 17:33 GMT
#133
On July 10 2015 23:46 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 18:39 Superouman wrote:
Before : "There is not enough micro! Give us more things to micro!"

After : There are too many things to micro! Give us less things to micro!"

Sigh...


There's good micro and bad micro. Good micro is something like you see Protoss do in SC1 with Dragoons, Zealots, Storm and Reavers and what not. Bad micro is the C&C3/RA3 mantra of ADD MORE SKILLS!

An RTS is not a moba. Active skills are not good for RTS games IMO.


I don't think that there's anything inherently bad about active skills. They just have to be interesting and fun, have high skill ceiling, etc.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 10 2015 17:43 GMT
#134
On July 11 2015 02:33 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 23:46 Qikz wrote:
On July 08 2015 18:39 Superouman wrote:
Before : "There is not enough micro! Give us more things to micro!"

After : There are too many things to micro! Give us less things to micro!"

Sigh...


There's good micro and bad micro. Good micro is something like you see Protoss do in SC1 with Dragoons, Zealots, Storm and Reavers and what not. Bad micro is the C&C3/RA3 mantra of ADD MORE SKILLS!

An RTS is not a moba. Active skills are not good for RTS games IMO.


I don't think that there's anything inherently bad about active skills. They just have to be interesting and fun, have high skill ceiling, etc.


Active skills need to be reserved for a few designated spellcasters. The rest of the units need to have very few of them.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
July 10 2015 17:48 GMT
#135
On July 11 2015 02:43 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 02:33 vOdToasT wrote:
On July 10 2015 23:46 Qikz wrote:
On July 08 2015 18:39 Superouman wrote:
Before : "There is not enough micro! Give us more things to micro!"

After : There are too many things to micro! Give us less things to micro!"

Sigh...


There's good micro and bad micro. Good micro is something like you see Protoss do in SC1 with Dragoons, Zealots, Storm and Reavers and what not. Bad micro is the C&C3/RA3 mantra of ADD MORE SKILLS!

An RTS is not a moba. Active skills are not good for RTS games IMO.


I don't think that there's anything inherently bad about active skills. They just have to be interesting and fun, have high skill ceiling, etc.


Active skills need to be reserved for a few designated spellcasters. The rest of the units need to have very few of them.

That really depends on the nature of the active skills. Skills like Siege Mode, Cloaking and Stimpacks are fine in my opinion. They are not quite active skills and more like additional behavior / alternate forms of the unit. But active skills that are "actually active", with that I mean skills where you have to think whether you should use them or not and if yes then on what target, these should be limited to 2 - 3 spellcasters per race.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 10 2015 20:40 GMT
#136
The typical "bad active skill" for me is the void ray ability.
paxconsciente
Profile Joined January 2015
Belgium91 Posts
July 10 2015 22:24 GMT
#137
Lotv is actually fun and it knows what it's trying to be
a very difficult, yet entertaining game that rewards those who out multi task their opponent
and for once, rewards those who are simply richer than their opponents. I like that

The casual gamer would rather learn this game than HOTS, because not only is it more interactive, but the increased amount of unit abilities and the early games increase in speed and tactics makes it infinitely more FUN (Yes, I'm sure you haven't heard that word in awhile.)

I know fun and starcraft don't get along, but I've been watching this game and playing it, albeit not very much, for about 5 years. it's my main source of entertainment online and I know what it needs.

It needs to be an enjoyable experience that doesn't feel like a second job. Lotv is on it's way to actually achieving that. Wol was terrible, HOTS made me stop playing and finally LOTV is giving me hope.
I'm super fucking excited for this game, and you should be too.
The best way to predict the future is to create it - Peter Drucker. <3 so0,ret,JD,Happy,Innovation,Snute
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
July 10 2015 23:15 GMT
#138
On July 11 2015 07:24 paxconsciente wrote:
and I know what it needs.


...
everyone claims to know what the game needs. what sets you apart from everyone else here in this forum except your ignorant overconfidance?
aka Kalevi
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
July 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#139
redbull archon mode hyyyyype!
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
paxconsciente
Profile Joined January 2015
Belgium91 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 00:15:03
July 11 2015 00:12 GMT
#140
On July 11 2015 08:15 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 07:24 paxconsciente wrote:
and I know what it needs.


...
everyone claims to know what the game needs. what sets you apart from everyone else here in this forum except your ignorant overconfidance?


Just because you can't macro past your 7 gate doesn't mean lotv is a bad game, and yes I know what it needs, I've made this game a pretty big part of my gaming life and have watched almost every major for 6 years. I would appreciate if you didn't hassle me with such shite posts, we might actually get somewhere as a community.

Oh, and "over CONFIDENCE," and if you're looking for a more respectful post in response to this garbage you might as well label me a narcissist now and not keep your hopes up, Good day.


EDIT: I decided to edit in the part where I don't understand why you're attacking me at all, just because I'm better than you as a person doesn't mean I'm looking to set myself apart from anyone, moron.This is a gaming community where smart (or at least I thought) people come together and discuss their thoughts, not everything is a competition.
sheeeeeeeeeeesh

User was temp banned for this post.
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