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Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.
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Patch 8.16: Live on Aug. 15, 2018
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On August 15 2018 10:29 JimmiC wrote:
To continue the discussion, clutz thinks ryze is a trollup and no remake has helped that. He needs a remake where he is classier.
In fact he was once a normal lass, but has been abused and degraded into one who only serves the most prurient interests of the most depraved.
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ummm, how is that electrocute change a nerf? they reduced cd by half. thats a big laning buff to me
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It's more a matter of burst. People were having issues with thinks like assassin mid Wukong rushing Duskblade and then jumping on you with E-auto-Qauto for pretty fat burst with 20 Lethality.
I'm just annoyed because Dark Harvest now becomes even worse, when it was only good in ARAM before anyway.
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On August 15 2018 12:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
ummm, how is that electrocute change a nerf? they reduced cd by half. thats a big laning buff to me
You're not going to proc it on cooldown unless you're against either a shitty player or one that wants to take the trade.
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It’s not hard to get 3 hits when a champ has a stun or an auto attack reset. And it’s easy if you have both. For example, if Camille hits an E you can auto Q auto every time. Likewise, the W slow is probably enouph to atuo q auto if you hit the W. With the new shorter cool down, electro is only 9 seconds off of her shield cool down. And new electro has a big gain in dps if you can proc it reliably. I wonder if this changes the best build and best trade pattern for lane Camille.
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On August 16 2018 00:12 General_Winter wrote:
It’s not hard to get 3 hits when a champ has a stun or an auto attack reset. And it’s easy if you have both. For example, if Camille hits an E you can auto Q auto every time. Likewise, the W slow is probably enouph to atuo q auto if you hit the W. With the new shorter cool down, electro is only 9 seconds off of her shield cool down. And new electro has a big gain in dps if you can proc it reliably. I wonder if this changes the best build and best trade pattern for lane Camille.
I dont think it will. Arcane Comet+all the goodies from it's tree is better for laning and Press the Attack or Conqueror are better for splitting.
On champions with auto resets as an offensive rune choice it's mainly going to compete with Conqueror and Press the Attack which I honestly cant see it even get near to in efficiency.
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Hmm. Electrocute has the same base damage as press but also has a 40% AD ratio. So if you’re building AD and you don’t get a lot of damage after the proc, electro would be better. Press is worth 8% bonus damage so if your post proc damage is 5 Times your bonus AD then press will be better.
This does put electro to a fairly niche spot. You need to be able to hit several time up front, you need to be able to proc it reliably, and you need to not want extended trades (because then press or conquer is better). Maybe Camille into Darius in lane? Hit e, q auto run. Get proc and avoid extended trade. Seems pretty rare.
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Glad to see riot still patching just because they don't like things going on in the meta
So happy I don't play this game anymore.
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seems like akali top is going to be much more cancerous
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So just read the patch notes now to begin my climb to challenjour tomorrow, this amumu change seems good?
Quinn is rip. Zoe seems like she's gonna be fine. Does anyone else still hate hextech revolver? Both as an item concept and the fact that it drops for Zoe. Legit no skill item and free burst.
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On August 16 2018 17:02 AdsMoFro wrote:
So just read the patch notes now to begin my climb to challenjour tomorrow, this amumu change seems good?
Quinn is rip. Zoe seems like she's gonna be fine. Does anyone else still hate hextech revolver? Both as an item concept and the fact that it drops for Zoe. Legit no skill item and free burst.
Idk, electricute nerf is sad on amumu. Might actually have to go aftershock on him now. Probably want to ignore the change to the E because it's so small and still build runic echoes seraph's
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Some more math action on the new runes updates. Based on pure value of stats, hail of blades is now by far the most gold efficient choice of keystone rune in domination. But it’s been held down by having a strange use case, and also maybe just players sleeping on it.
Hail gives a huge AS boost, but it’s hard to see how to contextualize it in a real fight. If hail of blades let’s you land one more auto than you otherwise would have, you can compare 1 auto to one electro proc. Electro scales from 30-180, a bruiser’s base AD scales from 65-130. So an auto is better early about even middle and slightly worse late. Also electro has a 40% bonus AD ratio compared to an auto attack having a 100% bonus AD ratio. So on that metric an auto is better. You need to get at least 83 bonus AD for the better ratio on an auto to be worth more than the higher base on the electro proc at level 18. A bruiser should always have that by level 18, probably more. So an auto from a bruiser is worth more damage than an electro proc at every stage of the game. That means that if hail gets you 1 extra auto it’s worth more damage than electro at every stage of the game. And in an extended trade hail shouldnget you at least two extra autos.
So by the numbers, hail might be hidden op. That said this is all math and no actual testing. But maybe test it in your next ARAM or something and let the forum know how it worked.
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On August 17 2018 00:16 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 17:02 AdsMoFro wrote:
So just read the patch notes now to begin my climb to challenjour tomorrow, this amumu change seems good?
Quinn is rip. Zoe seems like she's gonna be fine. Does anyone else still hate hextech revolver? Both as an item concept and the fact that it drops for Zoe. Legit no skill item and free burst. Idk, electricute nerf is sad on amumu. Might actually have to go aftershock on him now. Probably want to ignore the change to the E because it's so small and still build runic echoes seraph's
I just want to see if Ashe with Q active even do damage (besides true damage from IE) to Amumu when they are at full build. Guess he should be much stronger vs Graves too?
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On August 16 2018 12:52 JimmiC wrote:
These are the changes people cried for. Must so suck to be rito. No matter what they do or dont do mass bitching.
Who cried for any of this? No one I have ever played with
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Reddit, the biggest sounding board for public opinion.
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I don't frequent the reddit much, but other than posts that are clearly influenced by Riot propaganda I haven't seen much positivity about what they have done in the last few seasons.
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