Yeah, artillery mage is actually a pretty good way to describe midgame Jayce. He's close to the Unique class since early game he's a hybrid Diver/Artillery archetype, and transitions more and more to Artillery as the game goes on.

But any classification of League champions is going to be crappy. If I defined a "dog" to be an animal with 4 legs and fur and a wagging tail, you'd get contrarians who are like "I knew a three legged dog, is he no longer a dog? Are cats dogs because they have 4 legs? Are hairless dogs still dogs?" and conclude that the "dog" label is useless.

This classification does pretty well though I think there's too much AD/AP influence on the splits. A true classification system, in my mind, is mostly agnostic towards whether you build AD or AP, and you would expect champs like Vladimir to share some traits with Darius instead of being totally separate.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 24 2017 21:42 GMT

#64

On May 25 2017 06:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Yeah, artillery mage is actually a pretty good way to describe midgame Jayce. He's close to the Unique class since early game he's a hybrid Diver/Artillery archetype, and transitions more and more to Artillery as the game goes on.

But any classification of League champions is going to be crappy. If I defined a "dog" to be an animal with 4 legs and fur and a wagging tail, you'd get contrarians who are like "I knew a three legged dog, is he no longer a dog? Are cats dogs because they have 4 legs? Are hairless dogs still dogs?" and conclude that the "dog" label is useless.

This classification does pretty well though I think there's too much AD/AP influence on the splits. A true classification system, in my mind, is mostly agnostic towards whether you build AD or AP, and you would expect champs like Vladimir to share some traits with Darius instead of being totally separate.

I think the issue with the seeming AD/AP splits in the qualifications is how you get the champion to work. How do you make characters that would build AD and work like a mage? If they're melee, the end up being a diver or skirmisher. If they're ranged, they end up being Marksman most of the time. AD champions don't really have the tools to operate in "mage" situations most of the time due to flatter itemization.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 24 2017 22:14 GMT

#65

AD champs also don't work like AP champions because their quickly become OP/UP based on the number of auto attacks they can weave into combos. If Zed can 1-combo a carry at 3 items with 2 Autos, but really can only get 1 in in most fights, that is really important. Also if all the sudden Zeds are getting off 4, 5, & 6 autos off in teamfights (I've counted, they almost never do) Zed is all of the sudden a whole new champ that does burst and sustained DPS.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

May 25 2017 14:35 GMT

#66

That's not really what the main strength of Jayce is though, maybe a few years ago but not now. It's not even uncommon for Jayce builds to skip tear because of this.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 25 2017 14:40 GMT

#67

It was his main strength as early as Lethality buff. Now he has no main strength because Riot did the old "let's make this too strong and then make it too weak" balancing act.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

May 28 2017 02:14 GMT

#68

I've posted about this before but, uh, wow, Amumu / Galio is insanely strong. I would put it it at top three best combos in the game. With a Galio that correctly times his ult, it almost always wins a teamfight if the Amumu lands a decent ult.

I actually think it makes support Amumu totally viable. Support Amumu's biggest weakness was always a lack of tankiness/damage, but with Amumu's new passive and Galio's damage reduction both of those are solved, and Amumu can now build Talisman/Righteous Glory and focus solely on getting into position for a good ult.

dsyxelic

United States1417 Posts

May 28 2017 03:18 GMT

#69

er i think support amumu's biggest weakness is that he was basically an awful leona in lane. easy to play around and less scary on all-in's especially pre6

if i really wanted the galio amumu combo i'd take him jungle over support. especially over coin amumu. sounds like 1v2 ing lane and hoping you don't get snowballed on

and galio anything is pretty strong atm, champs busted

Bulgaria4186 Posts

May 28 2017 13:29 GMT

#70

anyone knows why some streamers are blocking vision on their minimap?

Sent.

Poland9331 Posts

May 28 2017 13:37 GMT

#71

Stream sniping? They probably stream without delay so its important. Remember that the streamers can see their minimap even if the stream shows it covered.

St3MoR

Spain3256 Posts

May 28 2017 14:26 GMT

#72

yeah it's to prevent stream sniping without having to set up a delay, which makes interacting with the viewers harder. For me blocking the minimap is a mistake anyway, as a spectator I like looking at the minimap, so I never watch streams with blocked minimap.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 28 2017 20:39 GMT

#73

On May 28 2017 12:18 dsyxelic wrote:
er i think support amumu's biggest weakness is that he was basically an awful leona in lane. easy to play around and less scary on all-in's especially pre6

if i really wanted the galio amumu combo i'd take him jungle over support. especially over coin amumu. sounds like 1v2 ing lane and hoping you don't get snowballed on

and galio anything is pretty strong atm, champs busted

I agree. I'd imagine Amumu could only be picked into other melee supports and even then you have worse gank assist than everyone and no kench like defense.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

May 30 2017 20:21 GMT

#74

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 31 2017 12:29 GMT

#75

Angleblade Riven
https://www.facebook.com/LeagueOfLegendsRU/videos/1486148898072857/
Demonblade Yasuo
https://www.facebook.com/LeagueOfLegendsItaly/videos/1150341438405267/

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

May 31 2017 14:34 GMT

#76

Ah. A skin for a champion that's never going to be seen come 10 ban system. Nice.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

May 31 2017 16:14 GMT

#77

most league players dont even play ranked and yasuo is in a lot of normals, these 2 skins are going to make them so much money lol.

Now if only they did cash grabs like this for less popular champ skins to be funded, but they dont.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 31 2017 17:27 GMT

#78

Some of these skins are very high production value, but I feel like they should come out with more, even if a guy like me doesn't buy them. Where is a creepy-looking pale Danish Taliah named after Bjergson?