Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

Non-League of Legends discussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

Certain topics are blacklisted from LoL General Discussion and they include:

"Elo hell"
The Tribunal
Bans, either from TL.net or LoL

Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

There are no new champions this patch.

Patch 7.10: Live on May 17th, 2017

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 16 2017 21:16 GMT

I knew that shit was clunky!

Sent.

Poland9332 Posts

May 16 2017 21:18 GMT

E - Sapling Toss
COST 60 mana at all ranks ⇒ 60/65/70/75/80 mana
BASE DAMAGE 45/70/95/120/145 ⇒ 25/50/75/100/125
ENEMY HEALTH RATIO 6/6.5/7/7.5/8% (+2% per 100 ability power) target’s max health ⇒ 8% (+2% per 100 ability power) target’s max health

Is sapling terror over?

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 16 2017 21:29 GMT

Is it me, or are all these Rammus changes effective nerfs to his early clear? No more armour reduction on E, only about as much raw damage from his passive but since it's magic damage and not physical anymore it's effectively less, he can't dive as well since he's slowed during his W (which also means less damage since he can't chase if he has to active it), etc.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 16 2017 21:43 GMT

On May 17 2017 06:29 Alaric wrote:
Is it me, or are all these Rammus changes effective nerfs to his early clear? No more armour reduction on E, only about as much raw damage from his passive but since it's magic damage and not physical anymore it's effectively less, he can't dive as well since he's slowed during his W (which also means less damage since he can't chase if he has to active it), etc.

Doesn't most jungle monsters have negative MR? I seem to remember there being a 40% AS increase on his kit that refreshes if one of his abilities are active aswell.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

May 16 2017 22:01 GMT

--- Nuked ---

Alaric

France45622 Posts

May 16 2017 22:03 GMT

His E gives him from 20% to 40% AS for the duration of the taunt, but since he's only got 0.625 base AS and a long wind-up on his animation it doesn't look like it'll do much for him at first glance.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 16 2017 22:33 GMT

Rammus needs a jungle rework to make a comeback so its not really relevant.

Slayer91

Ireland23460 Posts

May 16 2017 22:38 GMT

wtf alaric
-magic damage is better than physical damage because monsters have 0/-30~ mr and like 5-20 armour
-armour reduction on E clearly worse than 20% attack speed

the other changes i guess are up for debate, ball curl has a tiny cd now but it makes him slow. Swiftness boots are probably a good buy. I imagine they'll cut down on the W speed penalty. CC on R is probably really good.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

May 17 2017 00:23 GMT

#10

I think he'll be a decent top lane counter pick.

dsyxelic

United States1417 Posts

May 17 2017 02:01 GMT

#11

think maokai is pretty good now

i dont like his ult but everything else is pretty good and e is a 1 point wonder now
his passive is just retarded

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

May 17 2017 21:39 GMT

#12

Goodbye BotRK.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/05/517-pbe-update.html

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 17 2017 21:41 GMT

#13

ADC in 2017, Round 2.. Feed!

Fildun

Netherlands4124 Posts

May 17 2017 22:23 GMT

#14

Botrk was already on its way out of the meta again, Xayah and Cait are the strongest ADCs right now.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 17 2017 22:27 GMT

#15

But Cait just got nerfed anyway.

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

May 17 2017 23:13 GMT

#16

The Maokai rework is the dumbest shit Riot's done in a long time. Why the fuck would you take a tank, nerf the shit out of its tankiness, and replace it with a cheese ability that does over 16% of a target's max health? Get rid of that shit and make so his ult is actually useful and doesn't get blocked by the first person in the way.

ruypture

United States367 Posts

May 18 2017 01:36 GMT

#17

yeah maokai rework is pretty retarded. i liked maokai a lot too.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

May 18 2017 01:49 GMT

#18

--- Nuked ---

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 18 2017 02:45 GMT

#19

Finally saw the new ult in game this morning. Took forever to go anywhere. It probably still hasn't ended.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 18 2017 03:03 GMT

#20

I do feel like the Maokai rework was really random and not needed. That seems to happen often (see also Gragas, Cait, Kog...), I don't see how the new one is better (or worse) long term.