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[Patch 7.5] RIP LeBlanc General Discussion - Page 3

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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 10 2017 22:42 GMT
#41
Imo you remove all damage from her W at all. Let Q clear waves with mediocrity, then add a damage amp while they chained. No chain, no kill. W becomes a 1 point wonder.

Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully.

Much easier to balance.

cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 11 2017 00:09 GMT
#42
On March 11 2017 07:42 iCanada wrote:
Imo you remove all damage from her W at all. Let Q clear waves with mediocrity, then add a damage amp while they chained. No chain, no kill. W becomes a 1 point wonder.

Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully.

Much easier to balance.


That's basically my thoughts as well. Make W basically Graves' smokescreen for mobility (I think there are technical reasons you need it to do at least 1 damage, but maybe that changed).
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2017 01:17 GMT
#43
On March 11 2017 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2017 07:42 iCanada wrote:
Imo you remove all damage from her W at all. Let Q clear waves with mediocrity, then add a damage amp while they chained. No chain, no kill. W becomes a 1 point wonder.

Then shE is an assassin that can only really kill 1 thing at a time, but she can be very proficient at it. And she can still be a lane bully.

Much easier to balance.


That's basically my thoughts as well. Make W basically Graves' smokescreen for mobility (I think there are technical reasons you need it to do at least 1 damage, but maybe that changed).


Iirc it's for tower aggrieved and recalls, for example zilian bomb does 1 true damage on latch to prevent ridiculous tower pressure
Carrilord has arrived.
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
March 11 2017 08:46 GMT
#44
Does anyone know where I can find some mates for 5er ranked?im plat 4 and getting tired of troll queue.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-11 14:35:33
March 11 2017 14:33 GMT
#45
I missed this but it's kind of interesting, not sure how much I agree with some of it though balancing for viewership seems kind of ehh and they've had some really awful metas to watch.

https://www.invenglobal.com/lol/articles/1236

Also as a highlight

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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 13 2017 10:00 GMT
#46
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
March 13 2017 23:27 GMT
#47
is that meant to be a troll post or is he just that good at lb where he can still make it work
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 14 2017 00:03 GMT
#48
On March 14 2017 08:27 evilfatsh1t wrote:
is that meant to be a troll post or is he just that good at lb where he can still make it work

A combination of people overreacting and him being good I suppose. He's maxing Q first now. From what I can search up his only loss on LB after nerf has been his team feeding their ass off.
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dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
March 14 2017 00:13 GMT
#49
she can still get the picks she got before for the most part.

its more so that her teamfighting got way more trash and her late game is pretty much non existant

so yeah I can see him simply snowballing soloq games like he probably always did before

in competitive i think its a risk not worth taking but who knows, pro lb has always been a bit different from soloq lb
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
March 14 2017 00:44 GMT
#50
On March 14 2017 09:03 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2017 08:27 evilfatsh1t wrote:
is that meant to be a troll post or is he just that good at lb where he can still make it work

A combination of people overreacting and him being good I suppose. He's maxing Q first now. From what I can search up his only loss on LB after nerf has been his team feeding their ass off.

well yeah, everyone from bronze to challenger knew that you had to max q first now. it still doesnt solve the fact that your mobility skill is 15 seconds long and does a measly 100dmg.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 14 2017 04:54 GMT
#51
FYI you can now see your grade in Match History.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 13:50:26
March 14 2017 13:49 GMT
#52
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 14 2017 15:41 GMT
#53
On March 14 2017 22:49 JimmiC wrote:
For Mid especially its amazing how pro play and solo q are the inverse here is bottom winrate for mid

1 Ryze 38
2 Leb 43
3 Azir 43
4 Corki 47
5 vik 47

Bot 5 are practically the top 5 for pros. And zed shows up at 8th worst winrate. LOL (for plat and above according to champion.gg)

Leblanc changes haven't hit pro yet, Corki hasn't been played that often lately either.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 14 2017 15:57 GMT
#54
On March 14 2017 22:49 JimmiC wrote:
For Mid especially its amazing how pro play and solo q are the inverse here is bottom winrate for mid

1 Ryze 38
2 Leb 43
3 Azir 43
4 Corki 47
5 vik 47

Bot 5 are practically the top 5 for pros. And zed shows up at 8th worst winrate. LOL (for plat and above according to champion.gg)

Cant really say I'm surprised, except about Viktor, they are all champions with a fairly high skillfloor and you have to play around as a team. Likewise Shen for instance has a pretty low winratio in yoloQ too - appearently in last patch only Ryze and Aatrox had worse ratios in toplane lol.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 16:27:56
March 14 2017 16:25 GMT
#55
Plus remember all the players that are like I WANT TO HARD CARRY MY BRONZE 3 PROMOS ON RYZE JUST LIKE BJERGSEN CARRIED TSM.

In general I think it's probably a problem if a top pro pick is popular AND does well in solo queue.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 14 2017 16:41 GMT
#56
On March 15 2017 01:25 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Plus remember all the players that are like I WANT TO HARD CARRY MY BRONZE 3 PROMOS ON RYZE JUST LIKE BJERGSEN CARRIED TSM.

In general I think it's probably a problem if a top pro pick is popular AND does well in solo queue.


I also don't find a problem with the distinction. It disappoints me it comes up as a supposed problem so often. Not just here(if that's what is even happening) but by riot themselves at times.
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-14 17:27:16
March 14 2017 17:26 GMT
#57
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 14 2017 17:32 GMT
#58
On March 15 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote:
People like to say its bronze's but the stats are for Plats a higher. So I get there is a big difference between play and challanger but these are people who understand the basics of the game. It has more to do with the team work and communication of the pro teams I think. And team based strategies. Like good luck tell your team I'm playing ryze mid lets worry about the macro game and unlock my power 30 mins or whatever.

Solo Q champs better do well early. We have all been in games when its like 3-1 and you got people going GG or I'm done and they are allready in full tilt poor me mode.

Your point is well-taken as to Rek'Sai, Tahm Kench, Shen, etc., but I'm making a slightly different point, which is that people always copy the pros, and that in and of itself lowers those champions' winrate regardless of what champion it is. Even solo queue heroes suffer when they get popular in LCS.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 14 2017 18:23 GMT
#59
My quote was maybe too lazy I was referring to the 2nd paragraph only.
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 14 2017 19:01 GMT
#60
Ryze is also, frankly, terrible to learn to play and requires good rune setups (IMO) to get to work even moderately well. His waveclear and teamfight DPS require much greater patience than can be expected in a chaotic soloQ situation where you have little teammate trust (and the Ult is obvious). The best Ryze for soloq was the old old ryze that just bopped people with Q all day.
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