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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 16 2016 18:44 GMT
#241
So personally I just binded what is shift+rightlick by default to my A button and I use it exclusively for autoattacking. I'm actually really suprised that on one hand everyone is hell-bent on smartcasting every spell, but those same people don't have problem with using shift+rightlick, or even the default A and then leftclick.

On February 17 2016 03:04 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 03:00 Uldridge wrote:
On February 17 2016 02:44 nafta wrote:
Always use attack move. If you click on targets with attack move it just attacks them so it is better 100% of the time. Even if you never misclick(lol) there is still no reason to not use attack move.


I've seen countless times where the Vayne (for example) attack moved and missed crucial silver bolt proc's beause of it.
I've also seen fights near minion waves go wrong because of it.

Attack move is NOT better 100% of the time.
It's definitely situational and up to preference though.

That is because he attack moves the ground. If you press on top of people it functions the same way as right click.

It is literally the same except you can't walk up and die cuz you misclicked. Why would you not use it unless you are an actual good player but if you were why would you be on this forum asking for if you should use it?

Do people not know that just because you are attack moving doesn't mean you should press in random locations on the screen?

I mean, in Uldridge's example the idea is that if you rightlick and miss the target (either because he just got out of vision or flashed or you just fucking missed) then you just move towards him, whereas pressing attack move will result in attacking closest minion. But then ` + attack is still the best option.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 16 2016 18:46 GMT
#242
On February 17 2016 03:42 nafta wrote:
If you need lifesteal so much just buy a cull. Rageblade+hurricane should be the first 2 items always the damage scaling is just too much to pass up. Not like bork is gonna save you if someone goes on you and you aren't getting peel anyway.

BoRK's helped me win more duels than I can count, tbh. And if I can win duels and dives, I can get Rageblade/Hurricane faster. But, that's just anecdotal.

What the heck's a Cull? I just recently started playing again.

Oh. That's... neat, I guess, but I've never been a fan of stacking extra starting items.
It's your boy Guzma!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 16 2016 20:47 GMT
#243
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 16 2016 20:56 GMT
#244
thank god mercs get a buff on pbe i felt 20% tenacity was so useless
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 21:28:10
February 16 2016 21:15 GMT
#245
On February 17 2016 05:56 kongoline wrote:
thank god mercs get a buff on pbe i felt 20% tenacity was so useless

It felt like they balanced mercs for irelia or other champs with extra tenacity.

They should do it like 25% (35% if only source of tenacity).

because iron elixir, tenacity mastery, mercs and irelia passive does make a problem. but you know.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 16 2016 21:31 GMT
#246
On February 17 2016 03:33 Koenig99 wrote:
So what's the ideal endgame Kog build now? Rageblade->Runaans->BoRK->???

I usually finish with a combination of Scimitar (if there's suppress), Wits End, or BT for shield. Messed around with Nashors and liked that....more W uptime. Maybe Void Staff if they stack MR?

Thoughts?

Most pros have been doing Rageblade -> Runaans -> Bork -> Steraks and then Mercurial or Maw
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 16 2016 21:33 GMT
#247
1 champion has tenacity in his kit fuck rest they dont need it ...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 16 2016 21:35 GMT
#248
Kog with Lulu is more terror than ever before, now that he can get through laning phase once he gets like 2 items, the insane AS makes lulu's pixie proc so much...
liftlift > tsm
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
February 16 2016 21:36 GMT
#249
4 man premade in ranked now? rito get this shit outta here, should've been soloq only from the start
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 16 2016 21:41 GMT
#250
There's a Kog AS nerf on the PBE, to 0.558 (lower than Illaoi as 0.571 for the new lowest base AS champ), considering his current AS is somewhat high (0.665 or something like this) it could have a pretty big impact.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 16 2016 21:47 GMT
#251
On February 17 2016 06:33 kongoline wrote:
1 champion has tenacity in his kit fuck rest they dont need it ...

Trundle Mundo irelia singed from memory.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 16 2016 21:49 GMT
#252
On February 17 2016 05:47 JimmiC wrote:
ZZportal seams disabled on NA but I don't see it stated? Anyone else notice this?




this is the bug.

apparently Kruggs humping the zz'rot portal after resetting krugg's aggro causes voidlings to turn invisible and invincible.

Amazing spaghetti code
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2016 21:56 GMT
#253
They could just make tenacity have decreasing marginal returns like they did for movespeed...
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 23:09:42
February 16 2016 22:03 GMT
#254
On February 17 2016 03:44 AlterKot wrote:
So personally I just binded what is shift+rightlick by default to my A button and I use it exclusively for autoattacking. I'm actually really suprised that on one hand everyone is hell-bent on smartcasting every spell, but those same people don't have problem with using shift+rightlick, or even the default A and then leftclick.



Its just a preference thing. Nobody in this thread here is getting held back by smart casting or not. Froggen and Apdo both don't use smart cast. I can point to top level adc's that use only right click and others that use a click.


edit: Just checked

Forgv1n = a click
Imp = right clicks

Your not getting any higher level mechanical players than those two.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 22:10:09
February 16 2016 22:06 GMT
#255
On February 17 2016 06:56 ticklishmusic wrote:
They could just make tenacity have decreasing marginal returns like they did for movespeed...

it already does. it stacks mulplicatively, if you have 50% tenacity from 2 sources, thats 75% tenacity. it doesn't have a soft cap though.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 16 2016 22:17 GMT
#256
On February 17 2016 06:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 06:33 kongoline wrote:
1 champion has tenacity in his kit fuck rest they dont need it ...

Trundle Mundo irelia singed from memory.

trundle and singed dont have tenacity
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 22:21:25
February 16 2016 22:20 GMT
#257
On February 17 2016 07:17 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 06:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 17 2016 06:33 kongoline wrote:
1 champion has tenacity in his kit fuck rest they dont need it ...

Trundle Mundo irelia singed from memory.

trundle and singed dont have tenacity

hm they took tenacity off their abilities? i know they took it off garen.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 16 2016 22:31 GMT
#258
On February 17 2016 06:56 ticklishmusic wrote:
They could just make tenacity have decreasing marginal returns like they did for movespeed...

Tenacity is already multiplicative, the issue would lie with Irelia reaching 40% more than anything.
And Singed and Trundle lost their tenacity, can't have the "hard to kill and just run around" champs keep doing that.
It's only Mundo and Irelia, with Sejuani reducing slow potency after triggering her passive.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 16 2016 22:44 GMT
#259
On February 17 2016 06:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 05:47 JimmiC wrote:
ZZportal seams disabled on NA but I don't see it stated? Anyone else notice this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvtbVSWZo2g&feature=youtu.be

this is the bug.

apparently Kruggs humping the zz'rot portal after resetting krugg's aggro causes voidlings to turn invisible and invincible.

Amazing spaghetti code


i wish this would've been disabled before i played ranked earlier and the other team bought zzrots and turned it into invisible tower defense
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 16 2016 22:54 GMT
#260
On February 17 2016 06:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Kog with Lulu is more terror than ever before, now that he can get through laning phase once he gets like 2 items, the insane AS makes lulu's pixie proc so much...

Iirc pix has a hard AS cap around 2 Iirc. Not that it's not amazing with Kog anyway. But it's there
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