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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 19 2015 22:58 GMT
#621
Reckon Huni will fall off if he's doing it for the money. He was pretty variable last year. Absolute god at the start of the year when he was hungry to prove himself, inconsistent and prone to tilting later in the year when there was hype around him.

Will still probably roflstomp NA tops tbf.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 19 2015 23:00 GMT
#622

RD confirmed as AHQ's new jungler. So the finalized roster for S6 is Ziv/RD/Chawy/AN/MrAlbis. Pretty clean lock for #1 on paper
Glorious SEA doto
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 19 2015 23:49 GMT
#623
Ok, so is there any team in NA that is without an import?
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 19 2015 23:55 GMT
#624
On November 20 2015 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
Ok, so is there any team in NA that is without an import?


Can't say for sure since we haven't seen some of the rosters but it's looking like there won't be.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 20 2015 00:00 GMT
#625
On November 20 2015 08:55 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
Ok, so is there any team in NA that is without an import?


Can't say for sure since we haven't seen some of the rosters but it's looking like there won't be.

that's honestly just really sad.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 20 2015 00:04 GMT
#626
CLG is at least most likely no imports. They the same lineup -Dlift +Stixxay

NA used to be just streaming personalities and popularity so at least now they trying to actually be good at the game even if it means using players from outside of NA.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#627
On November 20 2015 09:04 Numy wrote:
CLG is at least most likely no imports. They the same lineup -Dlift +Stixxay

NA used to be just streaming personalities and popularity so at least now they trying to actually be good at the game even if it means using players from outside of NA.

Huhi is French/Korean so either way the last bastion of all American hope has fallen :[
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:07:05
November 20 2015 00:06 GMT
#628
honest question, does anyone(here) actually prefer the other way?

I personally don't even care for the import limit.
Carrilord has arrived.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:10:25
November 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#629
On November 20 2015 09:04 Numy wrote:
CLG is at least most likely no imports. They the same lineup -Dlift +Stixxay

NA used to be just streaming personalities and popularity so at least now they trying to actually be good at the game even if it means using players from outside of NA.


Huhi is still import, doe.
He's so forgettable that you've forgotten him for second day in a row.

But okay, let's have quick rundown.

CLG - Huhi
TSM - Bjergsen(resident now)/Svenskeren/kaSing
C9 - Rush
TL - Fenix/Piglet
TIP - whatever happens
Gravity - same
Dignitas - SmiityJ/Kirei
Immortals - Huni/Reignover are likely
Renegades - Alex Ich + Freeze is likely
NRG - Impact/GBM

Likely moves to NA - Forg1ven, dexter
But yea, it seems like every competitive lineup with non-complete retard owner has imports right now.

On November 20 2015 09:06 Slusher wrote:
honest question, does anyone(here) actually prefer the other way?

I personally don't even care for the import limit.


Neither do I.
But considering that our football premier league has hilarious foreigner limit which forces clubs to play in UCL with completely different roster, I'm used to stupid rules.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#630
Tbf there is something inherently compelling about an all local team against the wave of foreign imports. Like having RNG/King and OMG be the only all Chinese team in the Koreanised LPL made them much more enjoyable teams to cheer for even though I am not Chinese and hold zero patriotism.
Glorious SEA doto
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 20 2015 00:14 GMT
#631
I like the import limit. Gives the region some local flavour rather than just X international team vs Y international team. Seems to be a good mix between complete region lock and total free for all.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:19:44
November 20 2015 00:16 GMT
#632
On November 20 2015 09:00 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 08:55 Amarok wrote:
On November 20 2015 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
Ok, so is there any team in NA that is without an import?


Can't say for sure since we haven't seen some of the rosters but it's looking like there won't be.

that's honestly just really sad.

I don't see any reason it's sad LOL
The region with the smallest amount of players doesn't have as many talented players, I wonder why
You don't see any fans of MLB bitching about the amount of Dominicans or NBA fans whining about Spaniards
It's literally the same thing

What I find the funniest about it is that people like Thorin/Odoamne seem to care about it more than people in NA
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 20 2015 00:23 GMT
#633
--- Nuked ---
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:28:51
November 20 2015 00:26 GMT
#634
On November 20 2015 09:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 09:04 Numy wrote:
CLG is at least most likely no imports. They the same lineup -Dlift +Stixxay

NA used to be just streaming personalities and popularity so at least now they trying to actually be good at the game even if it means using players from outside of NA.


Huhi is still import, doe.
He's so forgettable that you've forgotten him for second day in a row.


ROFL Dam I completely forgot he even existed. Oops. Looks like zero full NA teams then. To be fair I am writing exams now so I'll claim mental impairment! :D

edit: I agree with above. If you play 2 full splits in a region I think for the following year you should be taken as resident for the import rules. As it stands the guys with exempt just create such silly situations for teams to abuse when it's so arb. What makes Bjerg/Dexter NA players over a guy like Rush who's first competitive experience was NA and he was there for a full year.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 20 2015 00:27 GMT
#635
Smallest playerbase, by far the worst player density, below average in DotA, absolutely terrible at SC2. No, I don't really think it's surprising or sad that NA needs to have organizations blowing money on imports. And most imports integrate very well because they've got to live here to compete. I think if anything the import limit is even less necessary than Riot thinks it is.
XDG Mata
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:30:44
November 20 2015 00:29 GMT
#636
The difference with Dota is that at the very top end NA players do actually compete against the world. Can't say the same for League though. Just dota has a drastic drop-off after the T1 guys.

Also CSGO guys aren't too bad. Sure not winning majors but TL has been doing decently and C9 had a good run earlier in the year. BR guys stepping it up too which is cool.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 20 2015 00:34 GMT
#637
I wouldn't really count BR as NA as much as NA tries :>

But C9 had a good run besides that NA hasn't really been competitive in CS:GO since the glory day of ibp (rest in peace neverlucky). As for Dota; at least there's EG :>
Glorious SEA doto
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:37:36
November 20 2015 00:36 GMT
#638
Isn't NA Dota not dicked around as much by ping problems on the east coast?

Then there's always the fact that there's no Korean overlords in Dota too.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 20 2015 00:38 GMT
#639
I know people are going to say there are a lot of reasons and it's more complicated than one thing, but NA Solo q culture needs to change if we ever want to see an actual NA player that would be worth signing over an import (that isn't already discovered)
Carrilord has arrived.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 00:41:24
November 20 2015 00:39 GMT
#640
Hey you still got EE-sama and Moon at least on good teams. Even if they teams filled with Euros and the God of Dota himself Puppey. That's at least 7 players that can compete on an international stage from NA. 7 more than league has -_-. Man this is depressing. Why is NA so bad at league when they play so much more of it than Dota.

Sure in CSGO they haven't been competitive but at least there's been some upset potential which sometimes they cash in. Unlike this years pathetic worlds showing :<.

On November 20 2015 09:36 Amarok wrote:
Isn't NA Dota not dicked around as much by ping problems on the east coast?

Then there's always the fact that there's no Korean overlords in Dota too.


Two servers but most players that can try play on EUW and have to play on EU a lot for online comp games. Basically the scenes aren't separate entities like in League which I think is partly why they better at dota. Isolating NA in league has really hurt them. Obviously they do still play some only NA comps and have NA only qualifiers but it's still far less isolated than in League.
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