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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 12 2015 08:21 GMT
#21
Interesting read. TY Cheep, clearly a lot of work went into that.

Would be nice if you'd explain what happened today though instead of just leading up to it and then ending the article.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
October 12 2015 08:59 GMT
#22
Would be great to know what actually happened, a lead, if not a link to know where to look at before reading all this.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 12 2015 09:13 GMT
#23
So what happened to stir this controversy was Tabe was on the analyst desk before iG v AHQ; he said that iG had some secret strats and then started to straight up say what they were such as kalista/kennen and hecarim jungle (That very game kakao picked hecarim jungle) the analyst desk had to outright tell him to stop.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
October 12 2015 09:18 GMT
#24
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 09:30:28
October 12 2015 09:29 GMT
#25
Thanks

And holy cow, the rest of the desk are like "wtf are you doing?"
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 12 2015 09:33 GMT
#26
I missed the actual discussion where he said that stuff, but man Tabe sounds like an idiot, he literally sounded like he was reading iG strats off a piece of paper, no discussion just leaking. Really wonder what was going through his head, did he think there wouldn't be consequences?

I remember Tabe's fiasco when retiring, it didn't sound very pretty. Pretty amazing that he managed to fuck up yet again in such a big way, he should give the esports scene a rest.
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SavageJungler
Profile Joined October 2015
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 10:40:29
October 12 2015 10:39 GMT
#27
I think that was just stupid... I didn't know about Tabe before, because I was always watching only EU LCS so I don't really care about him, but that was distasteful.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 12 2015 10:45 GMT
#28
Yeah watching that video it looks more clueless than malicious.

Difficult to believe that he wouldn't know what the impact would be though, even if it was an honest mistake its something that he should have known not to do.

He probably deserves a good degree of the hate he gets, I'd imagine.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
October 12 2015 10:47 GMT
#29
On October 12 2015 18:33 DarkCore wrote:
I missed the actual discussion where he said that stuff, but man Tabe sounds like an idiot, he literally sounded like he was reading iG strats off a piece of paper, no discussion just leaking. Really wonder what was going through his head, did he think there wouldn't be consequences?

I remember Tabe's fiasco when retiring, it didn't sound very pretty. Pretty amazing that he managed to fuck up yet again in such a big way, he should give the esports scene a rest.

If he is just stupid, then why was he invited to the analyst desk? I think he just an egoist.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 11:11:29
October 12 2015 11:10 GMT
#30
On October 12 2015 19:45 Ketara wrote:
Yeah watching that video it looks more clueless than malicious.

Difficult to believe that he wouldn't know what the impact would be though, even if it was an honest mistake its something that he should have known not to do.

He probably deserves a good degree of the hate he gets, I'd imagine.

He's been a player/coach for YEARS though... I really doubt he wouldn't understand how important not revealing a teams so far unused strategies is.

Also after having zirene basically ask "wtf r u doing tabe" he goes straight into listing their other picks until the other casters pull the plug for him
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
October 12 2015 11:11 GMT
#31
I think he just doesn't care at all.
He has probably made a fair amount of money by streaming/doing other stuff and now he's just doing whatever the fuck he wants.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
October 12 2015 11:19 GMT
#32
Don't attribute to malice what can be better explained by sheer stupidity.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 12 2015 11:28 GMT
#33
On October 12 2015 20:19 las91 wrote:
Don't attribute to malice what can be better explained by sheer stupidity.


That's the vibe I'm getting from him, if only because I can't fathom what the benefit was of leaking those strats. It's not like his comments changed the outcome of the game, all he did was dig himself a really, really deep hole.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
October 12 2015 11:31 GMT
#34
On October 12 2015 20:28 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 20:19 las91 wrote:
Don't attribute to malice what can be better explained by sheer stupidity.


That's the vibe I'm getting from him, if only because I can't fathom what the benefit was of leaking those strats. It's not like his comments changed the outcome of the game, all he did was dig himself a really, really deep hole.

He looked knowledgable and informed so perhaps he was hoping he is raising his position for future. But I think atm it backfired so hard we will never see him again.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 11:44:42
October 12 2015 11:43 GMT
#35
Pretty sure this was not malice but just stupidity from Tabe. If he wanted to do harm he would just leak in secret to the enemy team and not in public right before the game. He wanted to look important/knowledgable on the desk.

Is it even confirmed that ahq ever heard what he said before the game? Because I kinda doubt it.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 12 2015 12:29 GMT
#36
I would assume their computers and game/comm servers are part of an air-gapped system, and i know that they can't bring electronics on stage, so I don't think they could have listened to the desk even if they want to.

I don't know what it was but it definitely wasn't stupidity. You guys are not giving him enough credit, dude clearly isn't dumb enough to not know what he was doing lol.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 12 2015 12:43 GMT
#37
Even if it was stupidity, stupidity isn't an acceptable excuse for that sort of thing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 12:56:50
October 12 2015 12:56 GMT
#38
On October 12 2015 21:43 Ketara wrote:
Even if it was stupidity, stupidity isn't an acceptable excuse for that sort of thing.

It is even an excuse for killing someone.

But if what O-ops said is true then Tabe knew ahq would not hear what he said anyway and it was not even that stupid and we are overreacting. Although you can argue it was somewhat of a leak for their next opponents in case heca would not get played.
Off-season = best season
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 13:00:24
October 12 2015 12:57 GMT
#39
don't really want to wade into this nuclear mess but the other, broader background is the politics of CCP china vs hong kong and the various identities involved. suffice to say it's a hot mess but neither tabe or chinese lol fans are blameless and it's best to just ignore the whole affair and move on.

when lol rises to the level of national pride and you thrwo in china's peculiar mix of insecurity and outsized national pride, it's a gas explosion. tabe probably was on casual friendly terms with some of the ig coaches and they jokingly said 'it doesn't matter if you leak the info we'll lose anyway.' but tabe for some reason actually did it and went full retard.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 13:13:56
October 12 2015 13:07 GMT
#40
On October 12 2015 21:57 oneofthem wrote:
don't really want to wade into this nuclear mess but the other, broader background is the politics of CCP china vs hong kong and the various identities involved. suffice to say it's a hot mess but neither tabe or chinese lol fans are blameless and it's best to just ignore the whole affair and move on.

when lol rises to the level of national pride and you thrwo in china's peculiar mix of insecurity and outsized national pride, it's a gas explosion. tabe probably was on casual friendly terms with some of the ig coaches and they jokingly said 'it doesn't matter if you leak the info we'll lose anyway.' but tabe for some reason actually did it and went full retard.

Heh did not think of the Honkong angle but it would explain stuff like "Are you fucking Chinese or not?". When Dyrus leaked something which was actually relevant noone accused him of being a traitor to his country.
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